Swami's Interview session with John Hislop

[Guest guest]

Dear Brothers and Sisters,

SaiRam. Today, I would like to share with you the

following conversation between SWAMI and John Hislop. This is an extract from

the book 'My Baba and I'.

December 9, 1980

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JH: I have asked important persons around Sai if Sai is all knowing at all

times, or only when he so chooses. They give different answers.

SAI: Sai knows everything. That people are in doubt is due to the Maya of the

Avathar. You know that Sai is in your heart, yet you think, "Is Sai upstairs in

his room, or is he elsewhere?" It is the human element. The body has the name of

"Hislop", but you are not the body. You are the Atma. There is no desire in Sai.

There is total purity only. This entire body is Amrith. Where is there space for

desire in Sai? Everything is already mine. Sai does not think. My will is

immediately realized. Whatever it may be, it instantly appears. An envelope,

gold, everything. Where is there room for desire? I have no thought. If I

think, it is for you, it is not for me. Sai requires no food. If I eat, it is

for the benefit of everyone. If I give Darshan, it is not for me, it is for

others. I am talking to you now - it is for you, not for me. A point does not

appear in Sai. First a point, then disappoint! I am always the same. I am love,

always love. If there are angry words, that is action. Inwardly, I remain the

same. I have the same tender love for that person.

JH: SWAMI, some tragedy happens to a person, and they try to find a reason for

it in the actions of this lifetime.

SAI: Yes, that can be.

JH: But I thought that all happens in this life is the result of our behavior in past existences.

SAI: Not always. Something could happen with its cause in this life.

SaiRam

Raghu.