Baba - Did he respond to the Asia Tragedy?

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So far to my knowledge and information

NO. Swami has not yet responded

PHYSICALLY for the tragedy in Asia.

 

Swami does not always respond physically

to such natural calamities.

 

For example Swami PHYSICALLY did not

extend any help to the Earthquake victims

in Latur, Maharastra. But later after some time

had been to Latur along with Shri Shiv Raj Patil

(now Home Minister of India) for inaugurating a

hospital.

 

Also, For Orissa Cyclone relief Swami did not

send any relief material

 

BUT BUT

 

Swami sent about 50 truck loads of relief

material for the Gujarat Earth Quake Victims.

along with Shri Chiranjeevi Rao Garu, the then

incharge of Prashanti Nilayam and with some

youth.

 

Why? we have no answer. SWAMI KNOWS BEST.

Since this is an interesting question posed by you.

permit me to mark a copy of my opinion to the

saibabanews forum.

 

Regards

 

A Anantha Vijaya

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[Guest guest]

How are we to determine which way Swami extend His help?

If you all recall during Swami's birthday celebration(this year)

lady from Greece Mrs Helen narrated incidence -how Swami was

in Croatia and He was helping the victims by distributing food and Mrs Helen

confirmed that by showing the photo of Swami.So He was already there

helping the victims and again in Sudan How Mrs Helen prayed that she is

in need of Milk powder as so many children starving to death- lo and behold

all the bags of wheat were transformed to milk powder.

 

So His help is always there we have to reach out and do our part otherwise it becomes

difficult- we have to follow the footsteps of Mother Theresa,Sivananda,Vivekanda....

 

Hands that help are much holier than lips that pray.

 

At the feet of Sai

 

Soumendra

[Guest guest]

Sai Ram

Baba - Did he respond to the Asia Tragedy? YES! In fact He is the

one arranging everything. Baba can respond without uttering a single

word or taking any visible action.

Every single grain of food, clothing, money or any kind of help

reaching the victims of tragedy in Asia is possible because God

[swami] wills it ! Regarding, the tragedy in Asia, in my view Swami

do not need to take any physical action Himself. However, as he

resides in every individual's heart therefore, He alone is the

one who stimulate the urge to help from with in. And lo and behold

people from every corner of the world start helping- that is the

miracle- Gods ways are inscrutable and beyond the narrow and limited

thinking of human mind. We humans see only a part of the picture

where as not only Swami Sees' the whole picture but also paints

it with the dual shades of happiness & sorrow. Ultimate goal of every

human being is to except divine leelas' and free himself/herself

from the illusory world of duality. As per our individual Dharma

(duty) we should always join in and help people in difficult times

such as the one we are facing in Asia at the moment. Help Ever Hurt

Never.

 

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Sairam Ananth Vijay bhai.

I think it is not correct to say 'SWAMI DID NOT SEND ANY RELIEF MATERIALS...to orissa'

 

Infact, Orissa's cyclone affected areas received Swami's blessings with lot of

relief materials sent by Andhra Pradesh / Uttar Pradesh Sai samithis. Initially

some units directly arrived on the cyclone hit areas, but later on our Orissa

State organisation taken over the arrangements of receiving the materials

centrally.

 

Our great Bombay youth had arrived from Mumbai with their own bus gifted to them

by Swami and camped about 15 days during November 1999. They had done lot of

seva by approaching inaccessible areas where other volunteers had feared to go

because of washed away roads etc. They with assistance of our local youths had

rebuit the houses for some of the poor families.

 

Were they not sent by Swami ?? If not Swami then who else ??

Swami is doing everything for us. Taking care of his children like eyelids

taking care of the eye. But we cant feel it..

-

Akkanna_Pragada Anantha_Vijaya

beharrysinghp (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net ; saibabanews

Friday, December 31, 2004 1:31 PM

[saibabanews] Re: Baba - Did he respond to the Asia Tragedy?

Sai Ram

 

So far to my knowledge and information

NO. Swami has not yet responded

PHYSICALLY for the tragedy in Asia.

 

Swami does not always respond physically

to such natural calamities.

 

Also, For Orissa Cyclone relief Swami did not

send any relief material

 

BUT BUT

 

Swami sent about 50 truck loads of relief

material for the Gujarat Earth Quake Victims.

along with Shri Chiranjeevi Rao Garu, the then

incharge of Prashanti Nilayam and with some

youth.

 

Why? we have no answer. SWAMI KNOWS BEST.

Since this is an interesting question posed by you.

permit me to mark a copy of my opinion to the

saibabanews forum.

 

Regards

 

A Anantha Vijaya

[Guest guest]

Swami Bless you.

 

Sai Ram

 

Soumendra

SAIpapu <saipapu (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Sairam Ananth Vijay bhai.

I think it is not correct to say 'SWAMI DID NOT SEND ANY RELIEF MATERIALS...to orissa ..........'

[Guest guest]

Below the following message is another message which had a line - Swami has not

yet responded PHYSICALLY for the tragedy in Asia.

Lets have a discussion on this:

Considering Swami to be as any other Human Being is a mistake - He is what

motivates His Devotees to reach immediately with help and succour. When a Sai

Devotee lifts up a decomposed body of a victim he is chanting Om Sai

Ishwarya.......... Sai Gaythri - Swami is PRESENT THERE.

Swami is not present PHYSICALLY is a very narrow point of view. When we accept

He is OMNIPRESENT - which means - present at all places at all times - then

limiting Him to the physical frame can be nothing but ignorance.

It is my observation for a decade or so - where ever a calamity has befallen

mankind - Sai Devotees have reached first to help the victims. If the cyclone

hit Orissa - all states surrounding it responded immediately. Earthquakes at

Latur and Gujerat saw Sai Devotees physically in the area helping the victims

and I stay in Delhi - truck loads of help were despatched from here.

The Sai Samities in every state with co-ordinator at every level are a very

efficient body to respond to natural calamities - in their neighbourhood.

Sai Ram - Be Happy - and please ~ do what you can to alleviate this tragedy that

has struck mankind. PLEASE HELP THE ONGOING EFFORT OF SAI ORGANISATIONS. SAI

DEVOTEES SHOULD CONTRIBUTE ONLY TO THE SRI SATHYA SAI CENTRAL TRUST ~ AT LEAST

I DO THAT ~ OTHERS ALSO DO GOOD WORK, BUT SSSCT DOES IT DEVOTIONALLY ~ WITHOUT

CAMERAS.

JP

~~~~~~~~~~~

SAIpapu <saipapu (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Sairam Ananth Vijay bhai.

I think it is not correct to say 'SWAMI DID NOT SEND ANY RELIEF MATERIALS...to orissa'

 

Infact, Orissa's cyclone affected areas received Swami's blessings with lot of

relief materials sent by Andhra Pradesh / Uttar Pradesh Sai samithis. Initially

some units directly arrived on the cyclone hit areas, but later on our Orissa

State organisation taken over the arrangements of receiving the materials

centrally.

 

Our great Bombay youth had arrived from Mumbai with their own bus gifted to them

by Swami and camped about 15 days during November 1999. They had done lot of

seva by approaching inaccessible areas where other volunteers had feared to go

because of washed away roads etc. They with assistance of our local youths had

rebuit the houses for some of the poor families.

 

Were they not sent by Swami ?? If not Swami then who else ??

 

Swami is doing everything for us. Taking care of his children like eyelids

taking care of the eye. But we cant feel it..

-

 

Akkanna_Pragada Anantha_Vijaya

To:

beharrysinghp (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net ;

saibabanews

Friday, December 31, 2004 1:31 PM

[saibabanews] Re: Baba - Did he respond to the Asia Tragedy?

 

Sai Ram

 

So far to my knowledge and information

NO. Swami has not yet responded

PHYSICALLY for the tragedy in Asia.

 

Swami does not always respond physically

to such natural calamities.

 

Also, For Orissa Cyclone relief Swami did not

send any relief material

 

BUT BUT

 

Swami sent about 50 truck loads of relief

material for the Gujarat Earth Quake Victims.

along with Shri Chiranjeevi Rao Garu, the then

incharge of Prashanti Nilayam and with some

youth.

 

Why? we have no answer. SWAMI KNOWS BEST.

 

Since this is an interesting question posed by you.

permit me to mark a copy of my opinion to the

saibabanews forum.

 

Regards

 

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[Guest guest]

The opinion expressed by me with regard to Swami’s reaction on the Asia Tragedy

is entirely based on the query whether Swami has said anything in HIS PHYSICAL

FORM.

 

My humble suggestion to all those who have felt uneasy on my opinion is that

kindly understand that Swami in his Physical Form and Swami as Divine

(omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent) are two different things.

 

One has to make oneself clear whether he or she is seeking Swami first in his

physical form and thereby getting into the aspect of his divinity to finally

merge in him or

secondly seek him directly as omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent lord of the

universe (which is rare and difficult).

The rules of the game for both are different. Personally, I prefer the first

because when the Lord has come in human form, it is a once in a life time

opportunity so I would approach him in his physical form first to enjoy the

experience of being with an avatar.

If one seeks Swami Physically first then one has to follow the rules

accordingly, which are very tough.

The following are only some examples to make the difference clear between

treating Swami as Physical and Swami as absolute God. People who have been to

Prashanti Nilayam and stayed there for quite sometime can appreciate.

 

 

Once some University officials came for dinner to hostel. The next day when

students went for darshan Swami asked students whether the officials came the

previous night for dinner to the hostel and the students said ‘Yes’. Swami to

every one’s surprise said I did not know about it and nobody had informed me

(does God need to be informed - to his physical form YES). Swami added, if only

you had invited me also all the students would have felt happy to have my

presence in the hostel.

 

IN THE NAME OF CALLING SWAMI AS GOD WE FORGET OUR BASIC DUTIES. IN THIS CONTEXT,

REPORTING TO SWAMI AS THE CHANCELLOR.

 

 

A Student once asked Swami: Swami I want to merge in you.

Swami said ask your hostel warden to give one glass of majjiga (Butter Milk in Telugu).

Majjiga lesakta hai merge kaise ho sakta hai?. (One can take majjiga but how can

one merge in God. Merging in God is not as easy as taking Majjiga).

Swami then explained the four stages towards liberation:

Salokya (Mental proximity to the Divine), Sameepya (Physical proximity to the

Divine), Sarupya (Identifying oneself with Divine) and Sayujya (Becoming one

with Divine).

 

So one has to follow all the rules when he or she is in his physical proximity

before attaining "Sayujya".

 

 

 

A student once asked Swami (as is the case with all students) "Swami I want to be with you".

Swami asked him "You want to be with me or in me or for me?"

The boy had no answer.

Swami then explained

Living With God is Education

Living For God is Service

Living in God is Spirituality

 

DO WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE SEEKING AND HOW WE ARE TRYING TO COMPREHEND SWAMI.

 

 

Adwaita is the non dual principle i.e. All is one and there is no second thing

or aspect. Non duality or Adwaita in Practice is next to impossible. What is

required is Bhava Advaita - Bhaavadwaita (adwaita in thought i.e. at the back

drop of the mind).

 

Once an elephant was going on a road and a man came from somewhere and stood in

front of the elephant at a distance. The man in charge of the elephant warned

the person to get away from the path of the elephant but this man did not heed

and said do not worry, the same omnipresent God is in me and as well as in this

elephant. As expected the elephant hit the man with its trunk and moved forward.

This man got upset and approached a saint and informed him all that happened and

asked the saint as to why the elephant hit him when there is God in the elephant

also. The saint replied yes there is God in the elephant but you were warned by

the God who was in the caretaker of the elephant, the possible threat for you

from the elephant but you did not heed to it because you stuck to your foolish

concepts.

 

Swami has no happiness or sorrow but when we seek him or come to his physical

form we impose on him all attributes. EVEN swami expects us to behave in that

fashion. Often we hear devotees saying to one anothe about the expectations of

swami.

Swami does not like such and such thing or Swami likes us to do this or that.

I want to make Swami happy or please him with my good behaviour.

Swami is angry with me or with students or with such and such one.

 

In the true spiritual sense, Swami does not need any one or want anything. There

are no NEEDS and WANTS for Swami.

 

 

 

Once a student came crying to Swami and reported "Swami my grand mother passed

away. Swami asked "Is your grand father alive?". The boy replied "No Swami"

Swami then smiled and said "Then do one thing send a telegram to your grand

father saying grand mother is coming". That is Swami.

THERE WILL AND SHOULD BE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN OUR APPROACH AS SITUATION DEMANDS

WITH SWAMI IF WE ARE NEAR HIS PHYSICAL FORM OR FAR AWAY FROM HIM.

Believe me IT IS NO WONDER IF SWAMI SAYS "I HAVE NOT SENT ANY RELIEF MATERIAL IT

IS ONLY THE DEVOTEES WHO HAVE SENT IT". Of course not even a blade of grass

moves without his DIVINE sankalpa.

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LtdC/o National Dairy Development BoardNear Mahananda DairyWestern Express

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[Guest guest]

Sairam Soumendra bhai.

Sorry I forgot to one interesting point in my last posting.

All the youths and active workers who had done this cyclone seva

had been to Parthi with Bombay youth team in their bus and

presented couple of songs in front of Swami. Swami blessed all.

But i understand Swami also said the workers instead of coming

to Parthi and spending so much money, could have contributed

to for the cyclone ravaged villages.

 

That is our beloved SAI MAA.

 

But the most sad part of it, I am not an active worker and i cant

serve the society as preached by Swami and i could not serve in any way

to the cyclone affected brothers and sisters as i was pre-occupied with

my office job/to look after my colleagues affected in the cyclone.

 

I apologise to ANANTHA VIJAY Bhai as my posting might have hurt him.

 

Sairam

papu

-

Soumendra Bhattacharjee

saibabanews

Monday, January 03, 2005 5:40 AM

[saibabanews] Re: Baba - Did he respond to the Asia Tragedy?

Thanks a lot Papu for this valuable information.

 

Swami Bless you.

 

Sai Ram

 

Soumendra