Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Sai Ram to all, I wonder if anyone can help me? I came to know Sai Baba about six years ago. through a lady I met who is a sai devotee, we were both divorced and over time became very attached. The problem is she is Indian and I am Black ( West indian ) and she is afraid of what her family and friends would say. now six years on we are still keeping the whole thing a secret. we would very much like to be married but she says all she wants is babas blessing. Can anyone from this group offer us advice on Swamis views on mixed race marrieges and also pray the he gives us his blessings. I know that this may be a trvial matter with all the other things happening in the world at the momment but we are both suffering and want to be married. our greatest wish would be for swami to marry us. Please pray for us. Kindest regards James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Abburi Balakrishna <b_abburi Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:22pm Re: [saibabanews] Sai Ram to all Sai Ram. Go ahead James. I am positive our good Lord Baba will immensely bless U both to fulfil your desired objective. All the Best & Good Luck, Jai Sai Ram, Balakrishna Abburi ---------- <beharrysinghp Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:52pm Re: [saibabanews] Sai Ram to all Sai Ram James: I read about your predicament. I knew a sai devotee who went to Baba to get married. Baba did the rituals and the marriage was completed. A few years down the line the couple got divorced (they were of the same race). As far as I know, Swami has no problem with marriages of different races. Our society has the problem. If you and this girl can live happily with God, then what should you care about society/people. It's a sensitive situation since the girl has not informed her family. Keep visualizing Swami's sweet face and keep on chanting his name, things will work out. If I find anything quotes from Baba, I will forward them to you. Keep strong. Baba's blessing to you both. Sai Ram Lisa Florida ---------- Kedar Chintapalli <mkchintapalli Tue Oct 19, 2004 0:10am Re: [saibabanews] Sai Ram to all Sai Ram, I just want to give my personal opinion. Bhagawan Baba is Bhagawan. At your personal level he and you can have connection and he will respond to your seeking from within. The main purpose an Avatar, A POORNA AVATAR like Sri Satya Sai Baba takes advent is to 1. Protect his devotees ( Whom he calls and gives signature as devotees), from the illusion, bad of the world 2. To reinstate Dharma, THE ATMA DHARMA, that means realization of the individual as the "Holder Of The Beholder", when human deterioration has occured. He does not wait till the destruction of Dharma has occured. 3. He has come to liberate the souls that are in the process of Re- Legion or Uniting with the creator or the Source. The above 3 are the Vows that Bhagawan Baba has taken to reincarnate from his previous form as the Krishna Avatar, who was the only other POORNA AVATAR. During this process many come into his fold and seek him for the above three that he has come to give. The above message and conversation was given to me by Bhagawan himself in a personal interview on the 15th of January, 2003. As Swami teaches, Karma with detachment and selfless love is the process of evolution to reach the goals set by the Lord for us. Attachment, like marriage, children, worldly stuff makes us bound. The blessings you are seeking my brother are so worldy and are very personal needs of you. As Swami teaches, you are suffering because o f the desire and attachment you have in the worldly aspect of your life. That is your personal decision between both of you. Since the cause is holy, and nothing out of the ordinary, please convince the parents and get married. Swami's blessings will always be there, as he will bless anything that is for prosperity, and Dharmic ( Deha Dharma). Sai Ram in his service with love to serve God in Man, Meena Chintapalli ---------- "crishnantv" <crishnantv Tue Oct 19, 2004 1:30am Re: [saibabanews] Sai Ram to all Sairam Dear Mr James, Getting married and starting a new life is something very sacred , very important in life. Hope you would agree Mr James , social acceptability is desirable. As seen in many of His actions Bhagwan always observes rules and sentiments of the society/ state and would never approve any action that hurt the sentiments of the well wishers / close relatives . Where the mind is clear and the Goal is pure, there no room for fear. To conclude , pl obtain the blessings and acceptance of your friend's, wellwishers relatives & family. this is my view. Best wishes Sairam ---------- "SAIpapu" <saipapu Tue Oct 19, 2004 1:22am Re: [saibabanews] Sai Ram to all Sairam James Brother. I can pray Swami for you - What is best for you, he should bless. We dont know what is best for us, only SWAMI knows what is good and best for us. So why should we take the decission ? Why not leave to Swami our lives to be shaped by HIM ? Please surrender completely to Swami. Be like a flute,hollow.... so that Swami can play it nicely with nice tunes.. I may be wrong. Sairam papu ---------- spatron Tue Oct 19, 2004 1:32am Re: [saibabanews] Sai Ram to all Dear brother, There is only one race - Race of Human Being. There is only one language - Language of the Heart. There is only one religion - Religoin of Love. Why bother about others sayings???????Live your life. You already have the blessings of Swami. Once you are both happy, its enough. Lots of negative things are said on our beloved Swami but does this affect him - so why fear when Swami is hear, he always listen to his children. No doubt you will succeed. Jai Sai Ram (Please correct me if I am wrong) Soodesh ---------- "Sangavi Gururaghavendran" <sangavi_s Cc: james.anthony7 Tue Oct 19, 2004 1:59am Re: [saibabanews] Sai Ram to all Sairam, I can understand the extent of pain and suffering you are going thro'. I am sure Swami will bless your wedding. My husband and I were from different castes and States(in India). I would like to narrate what happened during our wedding. There is a boy named SaiKumar in chennai who is like a mediator to Swami. In simple words Swami communicates to us through SaiKumar. My inlaws had approached Sai Kumar before our marriage asking him whether it was ok to accept me. For that Sai Kumar replied, if you think she is of a different caste, I am a christian!!! We are Hindus and Swami wanted to put it in a suttle way that even the religion does'nt matter leave alone the caste. So in your case I am sure Swami will definitely bless you. All the very best to you and may Swami shower his love and blessings to you. SAIRAM, luv Sangavi Gururaghavendran. ---------- "Ishmael Sekgotha" <isekgotha Cc: <james.anthony7 Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:35am Re: [saibabanews] Sai Ram to all SAI RAM Bro` james,put your wish to swami & everything will be ok, however you must be strong because both families will talk, keep your head up. may the good lord BABA bless you WITH SAI LOVE SHIMMY saibabanews, <james.anthony7@b...> wrote: > Sai Ram to all, I wonder if anyone can help me? I came to know Sai Baba about six years ago. .......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Venu <venugopalpr Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:51am Re: [saibabanews] Sai Ram to all Dear Brother James, Sai Ram, Swami is behind you, in front of you, beside you, above you, below you, inside you and he is everywhere. Without His will nothing happens, even our breath. So please pray and surrender at the lotus feet. Swami will surely help you, "Trust me" With lots of love Sai Ram ---------- Nita Patel <Nita.Patel Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:54am RE: [saibabanews] Re: Sai Ram to all Sai Ram Brother James If you and this girl want to make this relationship in a wedlock and especially if both are from different race - i am sure you both are in karmic debt to each other and that nothing can stop you from being together with each other. if you were not to be together then swami wouldn't have put that spark in your heart. the girls' family would hesitate because they don't know you. sai ram nita ---------- <cherryl Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:35am RE: [saibabanews] Sai Ram to all Om Sai Raam Brother James, I think it is not a trivial matter -anything that doesn't give you peace of mind is not trivial...we can all pray silently and ask the Lord of the Universe to help you in making the right choices and showing you the way but the *nitty gritty* of the matter is that ....you need to speak to Swami -heart to heart..even though you are not in his physical surrounding -per say, but remember God is Omnipresent, Omnipotent and most of all Omniscient...ask sincerely from the depths of your heart...Swami will guide you and your friend ....there is only one race and it is the race of mankind. What we all strive for is love -Divine Love...Swami is the giver of Love and he will answer all of your questions. But sincerity must come from within, you must have implicit faith in what you do and believe in...whatever name you may call him whether it is Jesus, Allah, Raam, Krishna, Sai or simply God speak from the depths of your heart...God works in miraculous ways...trust me ...I know! Best Regards and Goodluck on your search. You will get the answer. My prayers are for you and your friend. Swami's love to you all. Om Jai Sai Raam Radhey of Canada ---------- K.Holms Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:50am mixed race marriages Baba says: ŒThere is only one caste, the caste of humanity. There is only one religion, the religion of Love.¹ Baba doesn't make any difference of colour, of caste, of race or religion. We are all God. But Baba also says that we have to respect our parents, and we have to obtain their blessings. As far as I know he doesn't approve the so told 'romantic' marriages, if the parents do not agree. Perhaps the best is that you try to talk to her family and demonstrate that your feelings are genuine... I wish you both the best Sai Ram Karen ---------- "gamsetmach" <gamsetmach Tue Oct 19, 2004 11:19am Re: Sai Ram to all Dear James, I have read in many books that Baba has told many young people who were "seeing" each other that he doesn't approve of "friendships" between man and woman. He always advises them to get married rather than continue their friendships. When Baba is so supportive of marriage as a sacred institution, why hesitate? do go ahead and get married wholeheartedly. Writing to a couple on the occasion of their marriage, He told them, "You are not just boy and girl coming together. You are Siva- Sakthi, hyphenated, as truly as I am, the right and the left halves of the same body. May you be ever in the shade of joy and contentment; may you both float as one on the waves of ecstatic love; may you sway merrily on the flower-bedecked swing of faith held by the ropes of courage and confidence; may this boat which you are boarding this day, be loaded with happy comradeship and festivity, health and wholesomeness, to reach safe and smooth at the lotus feet of the Lord. Row it forward, both of you, with the oars of self- surrender and service, and let its sails be filled with the breeze of grace." All the best!! saibabanews, <james.anthony7@b...> wrote: > Sai Ram to all, I wonder if anyone can help me? I came to know Sai Baba about six years ago. .......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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