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Sai Ram Thu, 04 Mar 2004 02:29:47 +0000

 

Sai Ram,

 

For those of you who know brother Jagadesan from Malaysia. Here is some

important information regarding the passing of his son. The purpose of

this email

is that, he does not want people to learn about this tragedy thro the

grapevine. Because then it will only add fuel to the fire, with regards to

the anti sai

groups, who want to blame Swami for everything that goes wrong. Hence here

is

a letter straight from brother Jaga. I recieved it from the Sai-net.

 

Rgds Wagdevi

 

 

The Passing on of Jaganaatha Sai s/o Jegathesan. Malaysia.

 

My Dear Sai Family, It is with totally uncalled tears in my eyes and heart

(for Bhagavan Baba has said that "under no circumstances should we cry),

that I

am conveying to all those who have worked with me for so many years in the

leadership of the International Sai Organisation, about the passing away

of my

youngest son, in very hurting and sad tragic circumstances. He was born on

March

6th 1981 and Bhagavan Baba, in an interview I had with him, lovingly gave

the

name "Jaganaatha Sai". Subsequently my son has had the grace of a number

of

personal contacts with Bhagavan, the latest being in Nov. 1996 when the

family

met Bhagavan about two weeks after the passing away of my dear wife

Shanti. At

that time Jegan (as he was lovingly called by all) was about 16 years old.

He

was the pet of the family, tall, fair and good looking and was a special

pet

of his late mother. The passing away of Shanti, in extraordinary and

sudden

circumstances had great impact on all, but especially our youngest child.

He

went into a mild depression, and seemed to recover and performed well in

his

studies and at the age of 21 had graduated in IT and started working. But

in

between all this, it was about a year ago that his depression began to

manifest.

One day he became totally irrational, and began to find faults with me and

members of the family and even his office staff and close friends. I

myself only re

alized that something was seriously wrong when he accused me of

interfering

with his office and speaking to his boss against his work. This stunned me

and

that was when we decided that he needed psychiatric help.

 

He was referred for medical treatment at the psychiatric ward of the

Malaysian University hospital. He was there for 13 days. He was diagnosed

as suffering

from stress induced paranoid schizophrenia. He came out of that, and to

give

him a new environment, he went to Australia to further his studies (for an

MBA), but returned within 2 months saying that was not for him. His old

company

gladly took him back. He was in the meantime being treated for his

psychological problems and was on regular medication. Even before his 23rd

Birthday (6th

March), he was promoted to Supervisor and when i spoke to his manager

about 2

weeks before his passing away, when he was admitted to hospital, he

described

Jegan as "brilliant" and someone with a great future in the company. On

his

return from Australia he decided to stay away from home, but would visit

regularly and join for family events. About three weeks ago he called me

at about 2.30

a.m. and said "Papa, I would like to come back home, as I need my family

to

cope with the stress". I welcomed him back and he came back that very

morning,

and settled in nicely. About two weeks ago ( on Thursday 12th Feb.) his

elder

sisters returned home in the late evening and saw him lying on the couch

in

the Living room, after he had gone jogging, (possibly for the first time

in

months). He did not respond to our call to "wake up and go to bed".

However

thinking it was just exhaustion combined with the drugs that had been

prescribed for

him, we let him sleep on the couch for the night. Next morning when I went

to

work he was still sleeping. It was only at about 11am when my daughter

called

and said that he was still sleeping and they could not wake him up, that

we

decided to rush him to hospital. There he lay in virtual coma and under

drips

for 3 days and than he came out of the "sleep". The first day after the

"awakening" he was totally irrational, but the next day he telephones me

from the

hospital, and talks as though nothing had happened. When asked what had

happened

he told the doctors and us that he could not cope with his new promotion

and

"wanted to end it all". He claimed that after his promotion he had only

about

an hours sleep every night". He had taken an overdose of pills after he

had

finished jogging, because he "just wanted to sleep". Now he himself

laughed at

the incident and told me "Papa, this will never happen again. This is a

new

Jaganaatha Sai". Anyway he was in hospital for about 10 days. My meetings

with the

psychiatrists who were treating him assured me that he was recovering well

and he was put under new medication. He became a hero of soughts in the

Ward,

when he helped prevent another patient from trying to commit suicide or

hurt

himself by trying to cut his wrist with the sharp end of a paper clip. On

Thursday 26th Feb. the doctors said he could return home , but not before

he was

asked by the staff to be the master of ceremony of a party that the staff

had put

up for all, in conjunction with some holiday event. He even won a prize.

 

I took him home and that night there was a big family outing, dinner etc

with

his cousins and he was perfect. On Friday 27th Feb., he came into my

bedroom

early and joined me in my morning prayers. This was for me a very

extraordinary session. He was so good that I showed him how I cleaned the

prayer altar

every morning so that in case he wanted to help, he could clean it in

future.

Than he joined me in the garden and I showed him how I plucked Thulsi

leaves and

flower for prayers. I also showed him ( and he did likewise,) how I chewed

Thulsi and Margosa leaves every morning as this was very healthy. Than we

prayed

together and he sang a bhajan to Lord Subramaniam. He than did LINGA

ABISHEGAM

on the Shivalingam that Baba had materialsed for me with instructions to

offer the abishig water to sick people. He drank that water. He also did

abisheg

on another lingam that had been gifted to him by some elders with 27

invocations of "Om Nama Shivaaya, Om Sai Ram", the mantra that Bhagavan

Baba had asked

me to use when I did the Abishegam on the materaised Shivalingam. Than he

took

Padanamaskaar from me and I placed Vhibuthi on his forehead and hugged and

kissed his cheeks, assuring him of my Love. When I left for office, he

went over

to my Aunts house in front of our home and joined his aunts (my cousins)

who

had come visiting from Overseas. In fact, they had told me to send him

over for

he should not be alone at home. They than took him for Friday prayers to

the

Ganesha Temple where he participated fully and happily and with great

devotion. They came back home for lunch and it was a very happy family

gathering. At

3.30 pm he told his aunts that he would like to go for a walk and he was

so

perfect that they thought nothing of it, but asked him to be back by 4.30

pm, as

they did not want him out alone for so long. He insisted on the walk so

they

asked him to make it short. At 5.00 pm he had not returned and they became

concerned. At about 5.30 p.m., I was still in the office with some

meeting, when I

receive a call from my daughter. My son had at about 4.10p.m. (at best

time

estimates would have it from those who heard the impact), had jumped off a

tall

building less than half a mile away from my home and had died. He had

taken

his own life!

 

Why he would do this when there was no stress (at least as others

perceived

it), when he had enjoyed, for all intents, a perfect and happy day, only

God

will know.

 

There is a strange irony to these events which has been noted by many

people.

On Tuesday 24th Feb at the weekly Bungsar Sai Centre Bhajan, I read out

excerpts from Baba's 2003 Christmas message. When I read that message I

was doing

it to comfort and give courage to some others in the Centre who had

suffered

some family tragedies. This was what I read out:

 

"Whatever man experiences is the creation of the mind. Due to the illusion

created by the mind, he establishes relationships and starts saying, my

father,

my mother, my wife, my children, etc. This illusion is the ultimate cause

of

his suffering. When man develops pure and unsullied love, he will not

experience pain or suffering. Love for the physical body is false and

transitory....

 

...Pleasure and pain are of your own making. They are not given by God.

You

are the cause of your suffering, none else.....

 

...Worldly LOVE is transient; it cannot be called love at all. True love

is

immortal. You should cultivate such love. Physical body grows and decays.

How

can you consider it to be real? In fact, nothing in this world is real.

Body

attachment is the cause of delusion. Hence, gradually reduce your body

attachment. This is the most important Sadhana you have to undertake.

 

...What is the use if you get drowned in delusion more and more with the

advancement of age? Do not develop undue attachment to be body and

material

possessions.

 

Under any circumstances, do not shed tears of sorrow. You will be free

from

sorrow when you give up body attachment."

 

Little did I realize that my Divine Father was preparing me for the events

that would confront me on Friday 27th Feb. 04.

 

Bhagavan had said that we should never cry under any circumstances. I

always

try to uphold as best as i can all what Bhagavan says. At the mortuary I

maintained HIS instructions and gave comfort to the others who were

crying. But on

Sat.28th during the funeral at home and at the crematorium I shamed the

Avathar and myself by crying uncontrollably. The only comfort that I could

draw from

the breach of this divine directive was the thought (as equally when I

cried

uncontrollably when my dear wife passed on), was the thought that "Rama

cried

when Sita was captured. Rama cried when Lakshmana was wounded in battle.

Arjuna cried when his son was killed in battle"...so who am I, an ordinary

aspirant

of Divine devotion, not to cry. I cried but also resolved that I will

continue to fulfill my Dharma and continue to contribute in my own small

way to the

work of the DIVINE MISSION OF THE AVATHAR. Please forgive me for taking

your

time with this long message.

 

Even as I write this I realize that this is one way I am psychologically

consoling myself and trying to, by putting this narrative on paper, taking

it from

the frightening recording machine in my mind that seems to be constantly

repeating the events of the last few days. Perhaps now the recording

machine will

stop, especially when I try to sleep. To my Beloved Bhagavan and the

leaders

of the Prashanti council and all the leaders who make up the leadership of

the

International Sai Seva Organization, I give my assurance that the tragic

events that has beset my life ( my mother as you all know passed away on

the 29th

Nov. 03, the day I left Prashanti Nilayam for home...creating almost an

identical situation as when my wife passed on, as I was returning from

Prashanti in

Nov. 1996) will in no way diminish my resolve to serve in the Divine

Mission. I

am aware that some in Malaysia and elsewhere, knowing half truths and

listening to rumors will judge me harshly for "losing a son" like this,

when I have

tried to motivate to the highest ideals thousands of Youth round the world

to

be ideal sons and daughters. If that happens than that is my fate. If even

the

Avatar is judged harshly, by those who wish to judge and find faults, who

am I

to be spared this calumny.

 

In respect of the work of the Sai Organisation, if the Prashanti Council

leadership wishes that I serve, as I have done in the past (and as I had

indicated

to brother Goldstien in Prashanti in Nov 03), I will do so. Whatever

happens,

I will continue to serve in HIS Divine Mission in any small way I can in

Malaysia or anywhere else in the world where people feel I can contribute

to the

Divine Mission of reviving Dharma. Once again please forgive me for the

length

of this note and the details I have chosen to include. Another reason,

other

than the personal psychological one, is that I do not want rumours to

spread as

they surely will. Some of you may be aware that the anti Sai forces used

the

passing away of my wife as part of their campaign, saying that she had

committed suicide etc. Though they were wrong that time, this time it will

be true,

but at least by making this incident transparent, hopefully it will

forestall

any other version. I apologies to Bhagavan and all Sai Devotees and to the

Sai

Leadership if the anti Sai uses this as another tool in their vicious

campaign.

 

 

With Love in my Heart to all!

 

Yours in SAI

 

 

Jega

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Sairam:

Please convey our heatfelt condolences to Brother Jaga

from Cleveland Sai family. May his soul rest in

peace.

"Jaga you are a strong man and it may be difficult

now. It is your son. So we all pray to Baba for

Jegan, and your family. May his soul rest in peace."

 

 

 

Partha from Cleveland center.

--- Laura <joydrops wrote:

> Sai Ram Thu, 04 Mar 2004 02:29:47

> +0000

>

> Sai Ram,

>

> For those of you who know brother Jagadesan from

> Malaysia. Here is some

> important information regarding the passing of his

> son. The purpose of

> this email

> is that, he does not want people to learn about

> this tragedy thro the

> grapevine. Because then it will only add fuel to

> the fire, with regards to

> the anti sai

> groups, who want to blame Swami for everything

> that goes wrong. Hence here

> is

> a letter straight from brother Jaga. I recieved it

> from the Sai-net.

>

> Rgds Wagdevi

>

>

> The Passing on of Jaganaatha Sai s/o Jegathesan.

> Malaysia.

>

> My Dear Sai Family, It is with totally uncalled

> tears in my eyes and heart

> (for Bhagavan Baba has said that "under no

> circumstances should we cry),

> that I

> am conveying to all those who have worked with me

> for so many years in the

> leadership of the International Sai Organisation,

> about the passing away

> of my

> youngest son, in very hurting and sad tragic

> circumstances. He was born on

> March

> 6th 1981 and Bhagavan Baba, in an interview I had

> with him, lovingly gave

> the

> name "Jaganaatha Sai". Subsequently my son has had

> the grace of a number

> of

> personal contacts with Bhagavan, the latest being

> in Nov. 1996 when the

> family

> met Bhagavan about two weeks after the passing

> away of my dear wife

> Shanti. At

> that time Jegan (as he was lovingly called by all)

> was about 16 years old.

> He

> was the pet of the family, tall, fair and good

> looking and was a special

> pet

> of his late mother. The passing away of Shanti, in

> extraordinary and

> sudden

> circumstances had great impact on all, but

> especially our youngest child.

> He

> went into a mild depression, and seemed to recover

> and performed well in

> his

> studies and at the age of 21 had graduated in IT

> and started working. But

> in

> between all this, it was about a year ago that his

> depression began to

> manifest.

> One day he became totally irrational, and began to

> find faults with me and

> members of the family and even his office staff

> and close friends. I

> myself only re

> alized that something was seriously wrong when he

> accused me of

> interfering

> with his office and speaking to his boss against

> his work. This stunned me

> and

> that was when we decided that he needed

> psychiatric help.

>

> He was referred for medical treatment at the

> psychiatric ward of the

> Malaysian University hospital. He was there for 13

> days. He was diagnosed

> as suffering

> from stress induced paranoid schizophrenia. He

> came out of that, and to

> give

> him a new environment, he went to Australia to

> further his studies (for an

> MBA), but returned within 2 months saying that was

> not for him. His old

> company

> gladly took him back. He was in the meantime being

> treated for his

> psychological problems and was on regular

> medication. Even before his 23rd

> Birthday (6th

> March), he was promoted to Supervisor and when i

> spoke to his manager

> about 2

> weeks before his passing away, when he was

> admitted to hospital, he

> described

> Jegan as "brilliant" and someone with a great

> future in the company. On

> his

> return from Australia he decided to stay away from

> home, but would visit

> regularly and join for family events. About three

> weeks ago he called me

> at about 2.30

> a.m. and said "Papa, I would like to come back

> home, as I need my family

> to

> cope with the stress". I welcomed him back and he

> came back that very

> morning,

> and settled in nicely. About two weeks ago ( on

> Thursday 12th Feb.) his

> elder

> sisters returned home in the late evening and saw

> him lying on the couch

> in

> the Living room, after he had gone jogging,

> (possibly for the first time

> in

> months). He did not respond to our call to "wake

> up and go to bed".

> However

> thinking it was just exhaustion combined with the

> drugs that had been

> prescribed for

> him, we let him sleep on the couch for the night.

> Next morning when I went

> to

> work he was still sleeping. It was only at about

> 11am when my daughter

> called

> and said that he was still sleeping and they could

> not wake him up, that

> we

> decided to rush him to hospital. There he lay in

> virtual coma and under

> drips

> for 3 days and than he came out of the "sleep".

> The first day after the

> "awakening" he was totally irrational, but the

> next day he telephones me

> from the

> hospital, and talks as though nothing had

> happened. When asked what had

> happened

> he told the doctors and us that he could not cope

> with his new promotion

> and

> "wanted to end it all". He claimed that after his

> promotion he had only

> about

> an hours sleep every night". He had taken an

> overdose of pills after he

> had

> finished jogging, because he "just wanted to

> sleep". Now he himself

> laughed at

> the incident and told me "Papa, this will never

> happen again. This is a

> new

> Jaganaatha Sai". Anyway he was in hospital for

> about 10 days. My meetings

> with the

> psychiatrists who were treating him assured me

> that he was recovering well

> and he was put under new medication. He became a

> hero of soughts in the

> Ward,

> when he helped prevent another patient from trying

> to commit suicide or

> hurt

> himself by trying to cut his wrist with the sharp

> end of a paper clip. On

> Thursday 26th Feb. the doctors said he could

> return home , but not before

> he was

> asked by the staff to be the master of ceremony of

> a party that the staff

> had put

> up for all, in conjunction with some holiday

> event. He even won a prize.

>

> I took him home and that night there was a big

> family outing, dinner etc

> with

> his cousins and he was perfect. On Friday 27th

> Feb.,

=== message truncated ===

 

 

=====

Partha

Always be happy.

Whatever happens is for good.

Help one person every day so you can go one step near God.

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Please convey my heartfelt condolences to Bro Jagadesan on the sad demise of

his son. It really was heartbreaking to read the detailed e-mail.

 

Manju

 

 

-

Laura <joydrops

<saibabanews>

Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:17 PM

[saibabanews] Sad news from Sai Brother Jagadesan

 

 

> Sai Ram Thu, 04 Mar 2004 02:29:47 +0000

>

> Sai Ram,

>

> For those of you who know brother Jagadesan from Malaysia. Here is some

> important information regarding the passing of his son. The purpose of

> this email

> is that, he does not want people to learn about this tragedy thro the

> grapevine. Because then it will only add fuel to the fire, with regards

to

> the anti sai

> groups, who want to blame Swami for everything that goes wrong. Hence

here

> is

> a letter straight from brother Jaga. I recieved it from the Sai-net.

>

> Rgds Wagdevi

>

>

> The Passing on of Jaganaatha Sai s/o Jegathesan. Malaysia.

>

> My Dear Sai Family, It is with totally uncalled tears in my eyes and

heart

> (for Bhagavan Baba has said that "under no circumstances should we cry),

> that I

> am conveying to all those who have worked with me for so many years in

the

> leadership of the International Sai Organisation, about the passing away

> of my

> youngest son, in very hurting and sad tragic circumstances. He was born

on

> March

> 6th 1981 and Bhagavan Baba, in an interview I had with him, lovingly

gave

> the

> name "Jaganaatha Sai". Subsequently my son has had the grace of a number

> of

> personal contacts with Bhagavan, the latest being in Nov. 1996 when the

> family

> met Bhagavan about two weeks after the passing away of my dear wife

> Shanti. At

> that time Jegan (as he was lovingly called by all) was about 16 years

old.

> He

> was the pet of the family, tall, fair and good looking and was a special

> pet

> of his late mother. The passing away of Shanti, in extraordinary and

> sudden

> circumstances had great impact on all, but especially our youngest

child.

> He

> went into a mild depression, and seemed to recover and performed well in

> his

> studies and at the age of 21 had graduated in IT and started working.

But

> in

> between all this, it was about a year ago that his depression began to

> manifest.

> One day he became totally irrational, and began to find faults with me

and

> members of the family and even his office staff and close friends. I

> myself only re

> alized that something was seriously wrong when he accused me of

> interfering

> with his office and speaking to his boss against his work. This stunned

me

> and

> that was when we decided that he needed psychiatric help.

>

> He was referred for medical treatment at the psychiatric ward of the

> Malaysian University hospital. He was there for 13 days. He was

diagnosed

> as suffering

> from stress induced paranoid schizophrenia. He came out of that, and to

> give

> him a new environment, he went to Australia to further his studies (for

an

> MBA), but returned within 2 months saying that was not for him. His old

> company

> gladly took him back. He was in the meantime being treated for his

> psychological problems and was on regular medication. Even before his

23rd

> Birthday (6th

> March), he was promoted to Supervisor and when i spoke to his manager

> about 2

> weeks before his passing away, when he was admitted to hospital, he

> described

> Jegan as "brilliant" and someone with a great future in the company. On

> his

> return from Australia he decided to stay away from home, but would visit

> regularly and join for family events. About three weeks ago he called me

> at about 2.30

> a.m. and said "Papa, I would like to come back home, as I need my family

> to

> cope with the stress". I welcomed him back and he came back that very

> morning,

> and settled in nicely. About two weeks ago ( on Thursday 12th Feb.) his

> elder

> sisters returned home in the late evening and saw him lying on the couch

> in

> the Living room, after he had gone jogging, (possibly for the first time

> in

> months). He did not respond to our call to "wake up and go to bed".

> However

> thinking it was just exhaustion combined with the drugs that had been

> prescribed for

> him, we let him sleep on the couch for the night. Next morning when I

went

> to

> work he was still sleeping. It was only at about 11am when my daughter

> called

> and said that he was still sleeping and they could not wake him up, that

> we

> decided to rush him to hospital. There he lay in virtual coma and under

> drips

> for 3 days and than he came out of the "sleep". The first day after the

> "awakening" he was totally irrational, but the next day he telephones me

> from the

> hospital, and talks as though nothing had happened. When asked what had

> happened

> he told the doctors and us that he could not cope with his new promotion

> and

> "wanted to end it all". He claimed that after his promotion he had only

> about

> an hours sleep every night". He had taken an overdose of pills after he

> had

> finished jogging, because he "just wanted to sleep". Now he himself

> laughed at

> the incident and told me "Papa, this will never happen again. This is a

> new

> Jaganaatha Sai". Anyway he was in hospital for about 10 days. My

meetings

> with the

> psychiatrists who were treating him assured me that he was recovering

well

> and he was put under new medication. He became a hero of soughts in the

> Ward,

> when he helped prevent another patient from trying to commit suicide or

> hurt

> himself by trying to cut his wrist with the sharp end of a paper clip.

On

> Thursday 26th Feb. the doctors said he could return home , but not

before

> he was

> asked by the staff to be the master of ceremony of a party that the

staff

> had put

> up for all, in conjunction with some holiday event. He even won a prize.

>

> I took him home and that night there was a big family outing, dinner etc

> with

> his cousins and he was perfect. On Friday 27th Feb., he came into my

> bedroom

> early and joined me in my morning prayers. This was for me a very

> extraordinary session. He was so good that I showed him how I cleaned

the

> prayer altar

> every morning so that in case he wanted to help, he could clean it in

> future.

> Than he joined me in the garden and I showed him how I plucked Thulsi

> leaves and

> flower for prayers. I also showed him ( and he did likewise,) how I

chewed

> Thulsi and Margosa leaves every morning as this was very healthy. Than

we

> prayed

> together and he sang a bhajan to Lord Subramaniam. He than did LINGA

> ABISHEGAM

> on the Shivalingam that Baba had materialsed for me with instructions to

> offer the abishig water to sick people. He drank that water. He also did

> abisheg

> on another lingam that had been gifted to him by some elders with 27

> invocations of "Om Nama Shivaaya, Om Sai Ram", the mantra that Bhagavan

> Baba had asked

> me to use when I did the Abishegam on the materaised Shivalingam. Than

he

> took

> Padanamaskaar from me and I placed Vhibuthi on his forehead and hugged

and

> kissed his cheeks, assuring him of my Love. When I left for office, he

> went over

> to my Aunts house in front of our home and joined his aunts (my cousins)

> who

> had come visiting from Overseas. In fact, they had told me to send him

> over for

> he should not be alone at home. They than took him for Friday prayers to

> the

> Ganesha Temple where he participated fully and happily and with great

> devotion. They came back home for lunch and it was a very happy family

> gathering. At

> 3.30 pm he told his aunts that he would like to go for a walk and he was

> so

> perfect that they thought nothing of it, but asked him to be back by

4.30

> pm, as

> they did not want him out alone for so long. He insisted on the walk so

> they

> asked him to make it short. At 5.00 pm he had not returned and they

became

> concerned. At about 5.30 p.m., I was still in the office with some

> meeting, when I

> receive a call from my daughter. My son had at about 4.10p.m. (at best

> time

> estimates would have it from those who heard the impact), had jumped off

a

> tall

> building less than half a mile away from my home and had died. He had

> taken

> his own life!

>

> Why he would do this when there was no stress (at least as others

> perceived

> it), when he had enjoyed, for all intents, a perfect and happy day, only

> God

> will know.

>

> There is a strange irony to these events which has been noted by many

> people.

> On Tuesday 24th Feb at the weekly Bungsar Sai Centre Bhajan, I read out

> excerpts from Baba's 2003 Christmas message. When I read that message I

> was doing

> it to comfort and give courage to some others in the Centre who had

> suffered

> some family tragedies. This was what I read out:

>

> "Whatever man experiences is the creation of the mind. Due to the

illusion

> created by the mind, he establishes relationships and starts saying, my

> father,

> my mother, my wife, my children, etc. This illusion is the ultimate

cause

> of

> his suffering. When man develops pure and unsullied love, he will not

> experience pain or suffering. Love for the physical body is false and

> transitory....

>

> ...Pleasure and pain are of your own making. They are not given by God.

> You

> are the cause of your suffering, none else.....

>

> ...Worldly LOVE is transient; it cannot be called love at all. True love

> is

> immortal. You should cultivate such love. Physical body grows and

decays.

> How

> can you consider it to be real? In fact, nothing in this world is real.

> Body

> attachment is the cause of delusion. Hence, gradually reduce your body

> attachment. This is the most important Sadhana you have to undertake.

>

> ...What is the use if you get drowned in delusion more and more with the

> advancement of age? Do not develop undue attachment to be body and

> material

> possessions.

>

> Under any circumstances, do not shed tears of sorrow. You will be free

> from

> sorrow when you give up body attachment."

>

> Little did I realize that my Divine Father was preparing me for the

events

> that would confront me on Friday 27th Feb. 04.

>

> Bhagavan had said that we should never cry under any circumstances. I

> always

> try to uphold as best as i can all what Bhagavan says. At the mortuary I

> maintained HIS instructions and gave comfort to the others who were

> crying. But on

> Sat.28th during the funeral at home and at the crematorium I shamed the

> Avathar and myself by crying uncontrollably. The only comfort that I

could

> draw from

> the breach of this divine directive was the thought (as equally when I

> cried

> uncontrollably when my dear wife passed on), was the thought that "Rama

> cried

> when Sita was captured. Rama cried when Lakshmana was wounded in battle.

> Arjuna cried when his son was killed in battle"...so who am I, an

ordinary

> aspirant

> of Divine devotion, not to cry. I cried but also resolved that I will

> continue to fulfill my Dharma and continue to contribute in my own small

> way to the

> work of the DIVINE MISSION OF THE AVATHAR. Please forgive me for taking

> your

> time with this long message.

>

> Even as I write this I realize that this is one way I am psychologically

> consoling myself and trying to, by putting this narrative on paper,

taking

> it from

> the frightening recording machine in my mind that seems to be constantly

> repeating the events of the last few days. Perhaps now the recording

> machine will

> stop, especially when I try to sleep. To my Beloved Bhagavan and the

> leaders

> of the Prashanti council and all the leaders who make up the leadership

of

> the

> International Sai Seva Organization, I give my assurance that the tragic

> events that has beset my life ( my mother as you all know passed away on

> the 29th

> Nov. 03, the day I left Prashanti Nilayam for home...creating almost an

> identical situation as when my wife passed on, as I was returning from

> Prashanti in

> Nov. 1996) will in no way diminish my resolve to serve in the Divine

> Mission. I

> am aware that some in Malaysia and elsewhere, knowing half truths and

> listening to rumors will judge me harshly for "losing a son" like this,

> when I have

> tried to motivate to the highest ideals thousands of Youth round the

world

> to

> be ideal sons and daughters. If that happens than that is my fate. If

even

> the

> Avatar is judged harshly, by those who wish to judge and find faults,

who

> am I

> to be spared this calumny.

>

> In respect of the work of the Sai Organisation, if the Prashanti Council

> leadership wishes that I serve, as I have done in the past (and as I had

> indicated

> to brother Goldstien in Prashanti in Nov 03), I will do so. Whatever

> happens,

> I will continue to serve in HIS Divine Mission in any small way I can in

> Malaysia or anywhere else in the world where people feel I can

contribute

> to the

> Divine Mission of reviving Dharma. Once again please forgive me for the

> length

> of this note and the details I have chosen to include. Another reason,

> other

> than the personal psychological one, is that I do not want rumours to

> spread as

> they surely will. Some of you may be aware that the anti Sai forces used

> the

> passing away of my wife as part of their campaign, saying that she had

> committed suicide etc. Though they were wrong that time, this time it

will

> be true,

> but at least by making this incident transparent, hopefully it will

> forestall

> any other version. I apologies to Bhagavan and all Sai Devotees and to

the

> Sai

> Leadership if the anti Sai uses this as another tool in their vicious

> campaign.

>

>

> With Love in my Heart to all!

>

> Yours in SAI

>

>

> Jega

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Please forward this e-mail onto Brother Jagadesan.

 

My heart goes out to him.  It seems that when someone is determined to commit

suicide there is no way to prevent them.  They are very good at covering up

their intentions.  Let us pray that Jagadesan's son is at peace now in his

mother's arms.

 

I do not remember Swami telling us not to cry.  Crying can be healing.  It's

important to deal with sorrow and work through it.  Swami can cushion our pain

and make it more bearable.

 

May Swami bless and comfort Jagadesan.

 

With deepest sympathy.

 

Chana 

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Laura

saibabanews

Tuesday, March 09, 2004 12:17 PM

[saibabanews] Sad news from Sai Brother Jagadesan

  Sai Ram Thu, 04 Mar 2004 02:29:47 +0000  Sai Ram,  For those of

you who know brother Jagadesan from Malaysia. Here is some  important

information regarding the passing of his son. The purpose ofthis email  is

that, he does not want people to learn about this tragedy thro the  grapevine.

Because then it will only add fuel to the fire, with regards tothe anti sai 

groups, who want to blame Swami for everything that goes wrong. Hence hereis  a

letter straight from brother Jaga. I recieved it from the Sai-net.  Rgds

Wagdevi  The Passing on of Jaganaatha Sai s/o Jegathesan. Malaysia.  My Dear

Sai Family, It is with totally uncalled tears in my eyes and heart  (for

Bhagavan Baba has said that "under no circumstances should we cry),that I  am

conveying to all those who have worked with me for so many years in the 

leadership of the International Sai Organisation, about the passing awayof my 

youngest son, in very hurting and sad tragic circumstances. He was born

onMarch  6th 1981 and Bhagavan Baba, in an interview I had with him, lovingly

gavethe  name "Jaganaatha Sai". Subsequently my son has had the grace of a

numberof  personal contacts with Bhagavan, the latest being in Nov. 1996 when

thefamily  met Bhagavan about two weeks after the passing away of my dear

wifeShanti. At  that time Jegan (as he was lovingly called by all) was about 16

years old.He  was the pet of the family, tall, fair and good looking and was a

specialpet  of his late mother. The passing away of Shanti, in extraordinary

andsudden  circumstances had great impact on all, but especially our youngest

child.He  went into a mild depression, and seemed to recover and performed well

inhis  studies and at the age of 21 had graduated in IT and started working.

Butin  between all this, it was about a year ago that his depression began

tomanifest.  One day he became totally irrational, and began to find faults

with me and  members of the family and even his office staff and close friends.

Imyself only re  alized that something was seriously wrong when he accused me

ofinterfering  with his office and speaking to his boss against his work. This

stunned meand  that was when we decided that he needed psychiatric help.  He

was referred for medical treatment at the psychiatric ward of the  Malaysian

University hospital. He was there for 13 days. He was diagnosedas suffering 

from stress induced paranoid schizophrenia. He came out of that, and togive 

him a new environment, he went to Australia to further his studies (for an 

MBA), but returned within 2 months saying that was not for him. His oldcompany 

gladly took him back. He was in the meantime being treated for his 

psychological problems and was on regular medication. Even before his

23rdBirthday (6th  March), he was promoted to Supervisor and when i spoke to

his managerabout 2  weeks before his passing away, when he was admitted to

hospital, hedescribed  Jegan as "brilliant" and someone with a great future in

the company. Onhis  return from Australia he decided to stay away from home,

but would visit  regularly and join for family events. About three weeks ago he

called meat about 2.30  a.m. and said "Papa, I would like to come back home, as

I need my familyto  cope with the stress". I welcomed him back and he came back

that verymorning,  and settled in nicely. About two weeks ago ( on Thursday 12th

Feb.) hiselder  sisters returned home in the late evening and saw him lying on

the couchin  the Living room, after he had gone jogging, (possibly for the

first timein  months). He did not respond to our call to "wake up and go to

bed".However  thinking it was just exhaustion combined with the drugs that had

beenprescribed for  him, we let him sleep on the couch for the night. Next

morning when I wentto  work he was still sleeping. It was only at about 11am

when my daughtercalled  and said that he was still sleeping and they could not

wake him up, thatwe  decided to rush him to hospital. There he lay in virtual

coma and underdrips  for 3 days and than he came out of the "sleep". The first

day after the  "awakening" he was totally irrational, but the next day he

telephones mefrom the  hospital, and talks as though nothing had happened. When

asked what hadhappened  he told the doctors and us that he could not cope with

his new promotionand  "wanted to end it all". He claimed that after his

promotion he had onlyabout  an hours sleep every night". He had taken an

overdose of pills after hehad  finished jogging, because he "just wanted to

sleep". Now he himselflaughed at  the incident and told me "Papa, this will

never happen again. This is anew  Jaganaatha Sai". Anyway he was in hospital

for about 10 days. My meetingswith the  psychiatrists who were treating him

assured me that he was recovering well  and he was put under new medication. He

became a hero of soughts in theWard,  when he helped prevent another patient

from trying to commit suicide orhurt  himself by trying to cut his wrist with

the sharp end of a paper clip. On  Thursday 26th Feb. the doctors said he could

return home , but not beforehe was  asked by the staff to be the master of

ceremony of a party that the staffhad put  up for all, in conjunction with some

holiday event. He even won a prize.  I took him home and that night there was a

big family outing, dinner etcwith  his cousins and he was perfect. On Friday

27th Feb., he came into mybedroom  early and joined me in my morning prayers.

This was for me a very  extraordinary session. He was so good that I showed him

how I cleaned theprayer altar  every morning so that in case he wanted to help,

he could clean it infuture.  Than he joined me in the garden and I showed him

how I plucked Thulsileaves and  flower for prayers. I also showed him ( and he

did likewise,) how I chewed  Thulsi and Margosa leaves every morning as this

was very healthy. Than weprayed  together and he sang a bhajan to Lord

Subramaniam. He than did LINGAABISHEGAM  on the Shivalingam that Baba had

materialsed for me with instructions to  offer the abishig water to sick

people. He drank that water. He also didabisheg  on another lingam that had

been gifted to him by some elders with 27  invocations of "Om Nama Shivaaya, Om

Sai Ram", the mantra that BhagavanBaba had asked  me to use when I did the

Abishegam on the materaised Shivalingam. Than hetook  Padanamaskaar from me and

I placed Vhibuthi on his forehead and hugged and  kissed his cheeks, assuring

him of my Love. When I left for office, hewent over  to my Aunts house in front

of our home and joined his aunts (my cousins)who  had come visiting from

Overseas. In fact, they had told me to send himover for  he should not be alone

at home. They than took him for Friday prayers tothe  Ganesha Temple where he

participated fully and happily and with great  devotion. They came back home

for lunch and it was a very happy familygathering. At  3.30 pm he told his

aunts that he would like to go for a walk and he wasso  perfect that they

thought nothing of it, but asked him to be back by 4.30pm, as  they did not

want him out alone for so long. He insisted on the walk sothey  asked him to

make it short. At 5.00 pm he had not returned and they became  concerned. At

about 5.30 p.m., I was still in the office with somemeeting, when I  receive a

call from my daughter. My son had at about 4.10p.m. (at besttime  estimates

would have it from those who heard the impact), had jumped off atall  building

less than half a mile away from my home and had died. He hadtaken  his own

life!  Why he would do this when there was no stress (at least as

othersperceived  it), when he had enjoyed, for all intents, a perfect and happy

day, onlyGod  will know.  There is a strange irony to these events which has

been noted by manypeople.  On Tuesday 24th Feb at the weekly Bungsar Sai Centre

Bhajan, I read out  excerpts from Baba's 2003 Christmas message. When I read

that message Iwas doing  it to comfort and give courage to some others in the

Centre who hadsuffered  some family tragedies. This was what I read out: 

"Whatever man experiences is the creation of the mind. Due to the illusion 

created by the mind, he establishes relationships and starts saying, myfather, 

my mother, my wife, my children, etc. This illusion is the ultimate causeof  his

suffering. When man develops pure and unsullied love, he will not  experience

pain or suffering. Love for the physical body is false andtransitory.... 

....Pleasure and pain are of your own making. They are not given by God.You  are

the cause of your suffering, none else.....  ...Worldly LOVE is transient; it

cannot be called love at all. True loveis  immortal. You should cultivate such

love. Physical body grows and decays.How  can you consider it to be real? In

fact, nothing in this world is real.Body  attachment is the cause of delusion.

Hence, gradually reduce your body  attachment. This is the most important

Sadhana you have to undertake.  ...What is the use if you get drowned in

delusion more and more with the  advancement of age? Do not develop undue

attachment to be body andmaterial  possessions.   Under any circumstances, do

not shed tears of sorrow. You will be freefrom  sorrow when you give up body

attachment."  Little did I realize that my Divine Father was preparing me for

the events  that would confront me on Friday 27th Feb. 04.  Bhagavan had said

that we should never cry under any circumstances. Ialways  try to uphold as

best as i can all what Bhagavan says. At the mortuary I  maintained HIS

instructions and gave comfort to the others who werecrying. But on  Sat.28th

during the funeral at home and at the crematorium I shamed the  Avathar and

myself by crying uncontrollably. The only comfort that I coulddraw from  the

breach of this divine directive was the thought (as equally when Icried 

uncontrollably when my dear wife passed on), was the thought that "Ramacried 

when Sita was captured. Rama cried when Lakshmana was wounded in battle. 

Arjuna cried when his son was killed in battle"...so who am I, an

ordinaryaspirant  of Divine devotion, not to cry. I cried but also resolved

that I will  continue to fulfill my Dharma and continue to contribute in my own

smallway to the  work of the DIVINE MISSION OF THE AVATHAR. Please forgive me

for takingyour  time with this long message.  Even as I write this I realize

that this is one way I am psychologically  consoling myself and trying to, by

putting this narrative on paper, takingit from  the frightening recording

machine in my mind that seems to be constantly  repeating the events of the

last few days. Perhaps now the recordingmachine will  stop, especially when I

try to sleep. To my Beloved Bhagavan and theleaders  of the Prashanti council

and all the leaders who make up the leadership ofthe  International Sai Seva

Organization, I give my assurance that the tragic  events that has beset my

life ( my mother as you all know passed away onthe 29th  Nov. 03, the day I

left Prashanti Nilayam for home...creating almost an  identical situation as

when my wife passed on, as I was returning fromPrashanti in  Nov. 1996) will in

no way diminish my resolve to serve in the DivineMission. I  am aware that some

in Malaysia and elsewhere, knowing half truths and  listening to rumors will

judge me harshly for "losing a son" like this,when I have  tried to motivate to

the highest ideals thousands of Youth round the worldto  be ideal sons and

daughters. If that happens than that is my fate. If eventhe  Avatar is judged

harshly, by those who wish to judge and find faults, whoam I  to be spared this

calumny.  In respect of the work of the Sai Organisation, if the Prashanti

Council  leadership wishes that I serve, as I have done in the past (and as I

hadindicated  to brother Goldstien in Prashanti in Nov 03), I will do so.

Whateverhappens,  I will continue to serve in HIS Divine Mission in any small

way I can in  Malaysia or anywhere else in the world where people feel I can

contributeto the  Divine Mission of reviving Dharma. Once again please forgive

me for thelength  of this note and the details I have chosen to include.

Another reason,other  than the personal psychological one, is that I do not

want rumours tospread as  they surely will. Some of you may be aware that the

anti Sai forces usedthe  passing away of my wife as part of their campaign,

saying that she had  committed suicide etc. Though they were wrong that time,

this time it willbe true,  but at least by making this incident transparent,

hopefully it willforestall  any other version. I apologies to Bhagavan and all

Sai Devotees and to theSai  Leadership if the anti Sai uses this as another

tool in their vicious  campaign.  With Love in my Heart to all!  Yours in SAI 

Jega

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saibabanews, "Laura" <joydrops@p...> wrote:

> Sai Ram Thu, 04 Mar 2004 02:29:47 +0000

 

Sai Ram,

 

Having Jagadesan as a wonderful guest in our

bi-annual national satsang in May 1998 in

Austerlitz, Netherlands and worked with him

as a National Youth Coordinator, I do want to

add my condolances to Jagadesan and wish him

all the strength and comfort and may Swami

help us all to understand and cope with this

very difficult and confronting situation.

So my thoughts and light will be with Jega...

 

Sai Ram, Vincent

 

Vincent J M Meulenbroek

from a cold (3 deg C) and windy Amsterdam, Netherlands

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