Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 News from Brindavan (Whitefield) Posted from Whitefield, Bangalore on 4th March, 2004 Sai Ram, 3-4-04 I am in Whitefield with no sign of Baba. There are so many rumor that it is hard to make any reasonable decision based on them. However, someone pointed out that the temperature in Prasanthi Nilayam is over 100. I think this would be an incentive for Baba to get devotees out of the heat. I am not sure what I am going to do. I have some business to take care of Friday morning and then I will decide. I may take the chance and return to Prasanthi. It is strange seeing Brindavan and the surrounding area after 23 years. I knew it was built up but I thought it would be different. The Hall has been expanded and is finished. It looks great. The whole ashram looks great. But from outside the walls the covering over the hall looks lousy. The Gokulam area is impressive. I walked around different areas of Whitefield. There are several very modern up-to-date buildings that would rival other places in the world. It is clear that India is caught up in leaping into the 21st century while still have to deal with the tremendous problems from the past. The Indian economy is growing rapidly. There is every reason to believe that India will accomplish the modernization of the country soon. The top leaders of India and of several state governments are committed to serving the people and improving the infrastructure. With them seeking guidance from Baba and following his advice, India will move into the modern age while retaining and improving its spiritual stance. India will excel as the spiritual leader of the world as it becomes the leader in the economic and political fields. India will be the example for the world and the world will follow. This is as I understand Sai Baba's Will. We are here to witness and be part of it. In india and in the rest of the world. We are witnesses to the most glorious and revolutionary transformation in the history of mankind.Gerald Dominick Source: http://pavanaputra.tripod.com/news/pnews-3.htm Search - Find what you’re looking for faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 Is He ever going to indroduce Himself to the US?Except the few devotees i knowaround here, nobody also is aware of Him. others never heard the word Avatar and most of them dont want to know. What is our job at this point? can we tell or shall we keep the silence on. Please post this note so the sai devotees can share their opinions with me. thank you.Sai Ram saibabanews wrote: News from Brindavan (Whitefield) Posted from Whitefield, Bangalore on 4th March, 2004 Sai Ram, 3-4-04 I am in Whitefield with no sign of Baba. There are so many rumor that it is hard to make any reasonable decision based on them. However, someone pointed out that the temperature in Prasanthi Nilayam is over 100. I think this would be an incentive for Baba to get devotees out of the heat. I am not sure what I am going to do. I have some business to take care of Friday morning and then I will decide. I may take the chance and return to Prasanthi. It is strange seeing Brindavan and the surrounding area after 23 years. I knew it was built up but I thought it would be different. The Hall has been expanded and is finished. It looks great. The whole ashram looks great. But from outside the walls the covering over the hall looks lousy. The Gokulam area is impressive. I walked around different areas of Whitefield. There are several very modern up-to-date buildings that would rival other places in the world. It is clear that India is caught up in leaping into the 21st century while still have to deal with the tremendous problems from the past. The Indian economy is growing rapidly. There is every reason to believe that India will accomplish the modernization of the country soon. The top leaders of India and of several state governments are committed to serving the people and improving the infrastructure. With them seeking guidance from Baba and following his advice, India will move into the modern age while retaining and improving its spiritual stance. India will excel as the spiritual leader of the world as it becomes the leader in the economic and political fields. India will be the example for the world and the world will follow. This is as I understand Sai Baba's Will. We are here to witness and be part of it. In india and in the rest of the world. We are witnesses to the most glorious and revolutionary transformation in the history of mankind.Gerald Dominick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 Sister, Not to hurt your feelings.Sami does not need any introduction.As swami always says he is everywhere for the people who have faith in him.I am in virginia last one year many times I physically saw swami in my house. Sorry to say I dont accpet the fact nobody knows him in USA.I have seen many forigners also in our bhajan center. If you want to physically have him in USA just pray him.He will answer your prayer.Please dont get hurt at what I am trying to express the pain when I saw your mail. Baba Please forgive me if I hurt Maya Humble pranam's at the lotus feet of Swami --- Maya <mthebrave wrote: > Sai Ram > What are we supposed to expect in these last 18th > years of Bhagavan's life? > Is He ever going to indroduce Himself to the US? > Except the few devotees i know > around here, nobody also is aware of Him. others > never heard the word Avatar and most of them dont > want to know. > What is our job at this point? can we tell or shall > we keep the silence on. > Please post this note so the sai devotees can share > their opinions with me. thank you. > Sai Ram > > ibabanews <saibaba_news wrote: > > News from Brindavan (Whitefield) > > Posted from Whitefield, Bangalore on 4th March, 2004 > > > Sai Ram, > > 3-4-04 > > I am in Whitefield with no sign of Baba. There are > so many rumor that it is hard to make any reasonable > decision based on them. > > However, someone pointed out that the temperature in > Prasanthi Nilayam is over 100. I think this would be > an incentive for Baba to get devotees out of the > heat. > > I am not sure what I am going to do. I have some > business to take care of Friday morning and then I > will decide. I may take the chance and return to > Prasanthi. > > It is strange seeing Brindavan and the surrounding > area after 23 years. I knew it was built up but I > thought it would be different. > > The Hall has been expanded and is finished. It looks > great. The whole ashram looks great. But from > outside the walls the covering over the hall looks > lousy. > > The Gokulam area is impressive. I walked around > different areas of Whitefield. There are several > very modern up-to-date buildings that would rival > other places in the world. > > It is clear that India is caught up in leaping into > the 21st century while still have to deal with the > tremendous problems from the past. The Indian > economy is growing rapidly. There is every reason to > believe that India will accomplish the modernization > of the country soon. > > The top leaders of India and of several state > governments are committed to serving the people and > improving the infrastructure. With them seeking > guidance from Baba and following his advice, India > will move into the modern age while retaining and > improving its spiritual stance. > > India will excel as the spiritual leader of the > world as it becomes the leader in the economic and > political fields. India will be the example for the > world and the world will follow. > > This is as I understand Sai Baba's Will. > > We are here to witness and be part of it. In india > and in the rest of the world. We are witnesses to > the most glorious and revolutionary transformation > in the history of mankind. > > Gerald Dominick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 Sai Ram, Dear Maya, Who knows what to expect in the last 18 years of Swami's life here until he goes and then becomes Prema Sai. That is his leela. But we in the US should not lose faith because he has not come here yet ... he has in many ways .. very secretly. Those of us who know of him ... have the sacred and secret duty of trying to follow his teachings, be examples, and through prayer draw our lords energy here to purify and energize the areas, people, and places around us. We must have complete faith in Sai and we must pray daily. We must pray and draw him here to the US .... for sooner or later ... Swami WILL make his presence known ... but more than likely it will be through a situation where the US will turn for help ... Not unlike many a egotistical individual who doesn't turn to Swami until they have real need to do so... until there is some crisis of some kind. Look how 911 drew a resurgance of prayer in this country after years of many people trying to abolish prayer altogeather from our activities and our schools. We who are in the United States have a real job ... to pray and do our sadhana with ernest so that we can draw Our Lord Sai's energy here into this country ... so that his Love can start to do the slow internal change that occurs... the transformation that Swami likes to do best ... which is through love .. on a deep internal level .. so that the change will be long lasting and permanent. Our job ...is to follow his teachings, strengthen our faith in the avatar and his mission, pray continuously to him for faith, guidance, strength, and to come into our homes. Literally ... to Nag him with our fervant prayers .... He hears... he will come. But we must surrender also first. We must surrender our lives, our outcomes, our futures, our journeys all to him and be confident that he truly knows what is best ... and to Swami leave all the rest. But we must never stop praying ....do puja's ... do service and more service... Yes I agree that our centers are few and far between... That is very unfortunate in the US. I too have the problem of being a 3 hour drive one way .. to go any center at all for Swami.... but that isn't his only mission here ... The Sai Centers are only part. Swami has other charitable services that are gathering force in pure seva and devotion. We do not have to be part of Sai Center on a regular basis to form a group that meet weekly to do bhajans, sing his name, and pray. We can gather people ... even if its just your family ... though we should make every effort to participate if we're near one .... like household you can find the nearest homeless shelter and serve. You can gather and sing and pray and do puja. Do can pray incessantly for Swami to come here to the US.... I am praying incessantly for Swami to come and build a Sathya Sai School for children right here in New Hampshire and I will continue to do so .. I would ask other devotees to please join me in this fervant prayer. Our children are our future as a country and they need real guidance and schooling. I call on every US devottee to pray daily at thier altars .. for Swami to come to the US with more love. For us devottees are the ones need to draw him here and to other places in the world. Have faith and prayers can change the very world we live in and that is what Swami is asking of us ... daily!! But I firmly believe and know that if every devottee in the United States wether part of a Sai center or not ... made a puja room and prayed daily we would be part of Swami's secret mission which is not just for the US but for the world. We would be a part of Swami's mission to secretly channel the efforts of his 'workers' to not only physically and mentally help, but to be 'cleansing angels' for society at metaphysical levels. Quite a clever fellow indeed our Lord is. Consider that and then consider Swami's next quote ... " Love is the only alchemy, the only solution in the Kali Yuga. It is the only possible weapon with which to fight the evil tendencies. One should not meet hate with hate. One should meet hate with love. I tell you, love is the most wonderful thing and can work great miracles by changing the very nature and character of man. It works from within the person, from inside, and so the change is more thorough and absolute, though the curing process is slow. Therefore, develop love towards everyone." All else will happen in Swami's own good time. Sai Ram Melody - Maya saibabanews Saturday, March 06, 2004 4:47 AM [saibabanews] Re: News from Brindavan (Whitefield), Mar 4, 2004 Sai RamWhat are we supposed to expect in these last 18th years of Bhagavan's life? Is He ever going to indroduce Himself to the US?Except the few devotees i knowaround here, nobody also is aware of Him. others never heard the word Avatar and most of them dont want to know. What is our job at this point? can we tell or shall we keep the silence on. Please post this note so the sai devotees can share their opinions with me. thank you.Sai Ram saibabanews wrote: News from Brindavan (Whitefield) Posted from Whitefield, Bangalore on 4th March, 2004 Sai Ram, 3-4-04 I am in Whitefield with no sign of Baba. There are so many rumor that it is hard to make any reasonable decision based on them. However, someone pointed out that the temperature in Prasanthi Nilayam is over 100. I think this would be an incentive for Baba to get devotees out of the heat. I am not sure what I am going to do. I have some business to take care of Friday morning and then I will decide. I may take the chance and return to Prasanthi. It is strange seeing Brindavan and the surrounding area after 23 years. I knew it was built up but I thought it would be different. The Hall has been expanded and is finished. It looks great. The whole ashram looks great. But from outside the walls the covering over the hall looks lousy. The Gokulam area is impressive. I walked around different areas of Whitefield. There are several very modern up-to-date buildings that would rival other places in the world. It is clear that India is caught up in leaping into the 21st century while still have to deal with the tremendous problems from the past. The Indian economy is growing rapidly. There is every reason to believe that India will accomplish the modernization of the country soon. The top leaders of India and of several state governments are committed to serving the people and improving the infrastructure. With them seeking guidance from Baba and following his advice, India will move into the modern age while retaining and improving its spiritual stance. India will excel as the spiritual leader of the world as it becomes the leader in the economic and political fields. India will be the example for the world and the world will follow. This is as I understand Sai Baba's Will. We are here to witness and be part of it. In india and in the rest of the world. We are witnesses to the most glorious and revolutionary transformation in the history of mankind.Gerald Dominick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 ways to talk about Swami. Kind of tired to " just read about Him" Everybody is pullingteachings and teachings. We all can read books. I need to talk and hear other people opinions and experiences.Unless devotees belong to a family full of Sai believers, one has very little chance to talk about Him. You can talk to me about Sri Sathya Sai Baba any time you want at mthebrave . I love to talk , hear and read about Him. I dream about Him and Shirdi Sai all the time. I would love to hear about other peoples dreams and experiences. Cant go to India yet. Do you have many Sai Centers in Virginia? My love to all. Thank you. Sai Ram Rama Talasila wrote: Sister,Not to hurt your feelings.Sami does not need anyintroduction.As swami always says he is everywhere forthe people who have faith in him.I am in virginialast one year many times I physically saw swami in myhouse.Sorry to say I dont accpet the fact nobody knows himin USA.I have seen many forigners also in our bhajancenter.If you want to physically have him in USA just prayhim.He will answer your prayer.Please dont get hurt atwhat I am trying to express the pain when I saw yourmail. Baba Please forgive me if I hurt MayaHumble pranam's at the lotus feet of Swami --- Maya wrote:> Sai Ram> What are we supposed to expect in these last 18th> years of Bhagavan's life?> Is He ever going to indroduce Himself to the US?> Except the few devotees i know> around here, nobody also is aware of Him. others> never heard the word Avatar and most of them dont> want to know.> What is our job at this point? can we tell or shall> we keep the silence on.> Please post this note so the sai devotees can share> their opinions with me. thank you.> Sai Ram> > ibabanews wrote:> > News from Brindavan (Whitefield)> > Posted from Whitefield, Bangalore on 4th March, 2004> > > Sai Ram,> > 3-4-04> > I am in Whitefield with no sign of Baba. There are> so many rumor that it is hard to make any reasonable> decision based on them.> > However, someone pointed out that the temperature in> Prasanthi Nilayam is over 100. I think this would be> an incentive for Baba to get devotees out of the> heat. > > I am not sure what I am going to do. I have some> business to take care of Friday morning and then I> will decide. I may take the chance and return to> Prasanthi. > > It is strange seeing Brindavan and the surrounding> area after 23 years. I knew it was built up but I> thought it would be different.> > The Hall has been expanded and is finished. It looks> great. The whole ashram looks great. But from> outside the walls the covering over the hall looks> lousy.> > The Gokulam area is impressive. I walked around> different areas of Whitefield. There are several> very modern up-to-date buildings that would rival> other places in the world.> > It is clear that India is caught up in leaping into> the 21st century while still have to deal with the> tremendous problems from the past. The Indian> economy is growing rapidly. There is every reason to> believe that India will accomplish the modernization> of the country soon.> > The top leaders of India and of several state> governments are committed to serving the people and> improving the infrastructure. With them seeking> guidance from Baba and following his advice, India> will move into the modern age while retaining and> improving its spiritual stance. > > India will excel as the spiritual leader of the> world as it becomes the leader in the economic and> political fields. India will be the example for the> world and the world will follow.> > This is as I understand Sai Baba's Will.> > We are here to witness and be part of it. In india> and in the rest of the world. We are witnesses to> the most glorious and revolutionary transformation> in the history of mankind.> > Gerald Dominick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 LOVE SWAMI A LOT. KIND OF JELOUS OF THA KIND OF LOVE AND SURRENDER YOU HAVE FOR HIM. I DREAM ABOUT HIM A LOT. BUT MY MONKEY MIND JUMPS UP AN DOWN LIKE A CRAZY BANANAS AND GETS THE UPPER HAND MOST OF THE TIME. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO E-MAIL ME YOUR EXPERIENCES AND YOUR DREAMS AND OVE FOR HIM.I KNOW WE CANNOT TRUST E-MAILS. BUT YOU CAN ASK SWAMI ABOUT ME, FIRST .IF HE SAYS YES; MY E-MAIL IS mthebrave . I ASKED SWAMI WHAT TO DO TO MAKE SOME SAI FRIENDS. HE TOLD ME TO POST MY LITTLE DILEMMA ON THE SAIBABANEWS. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU SAIBABANEWS FOR POSTING MY E-MAIL ON YOUR GREAT WEB SITE. LOVE TO ALL. MAYA. SAI RAM y McClarty wrote: Sai Ram, Dear Maya, Who knows what to expect in the last 18 years of Swami's life here until he goes and then becomes Prema Sai. That is his leela. But we in the US should not lose faith because he has not come here yet ... he has in many ways .. very secretly. Those of us who know of him ... have the sacred and secret duty of trying to follow his teachings, be examples, and through prayer draw our lords energy here to purify and energize the areas, people, and places around us. We must have complete faith in Sai and we must pray daily. We must pray and draw him here to the US .... for sooner or later ... Swami WILL make his presence known ... but more than likely it will be through a situation where the US will turn for help ... Not unlike many a egotistical individual who doesn't turn to Swami until they have real need to do so... until there is some crisis of some kind. Look how 911 drew a resurgance of prayer in this country after years of many people trying to abolish prayer altogeather from our activities and our schools. We who are in the United States have a real job ... to pray and do our sadhana with ernest so that we can draw Our Lord Sai's energy here into this country ... so that his Love can start to do the slow internal change that occurs... the transformation that Swami likes to do best ... which is through love .. on a deep internal level .. so that the change will be long lasting and permanent. Our job ...is to follow his teachings, strengthen our faith in the avatar and his mission, pray continuously to him for faith, guidance, strength, and to come into our homes. Literally ... to Nag him with our fervant prayers .... He hears... he will come. But we must surrender also first. We must surrender our lives, our outcomes, our futures, our journeys all to him and be confident that he truly knows what is best ... and to Swami leave all the rest. But we must never stop praying ....do puja's ... do service and more service... Yes I agree that our centers are few and far between... That is very unfortunate in the US. I too have the problem of being a 3 hour drive one way .. to go any center at all for Swami.... but that isn't his only mission here ... The Sai Centers are only part. Swami has other charitable services that are gathering force in pure seva and devotion. We do not have to be part of Sai Center on a regular basis to form a group that meet weekly to do bhajans, sing his name, and pray. We can gather people ... even if its just your family ... though we should make every effort to participate if we're near one .... like household you can find the nearest homeless shelter and serve. You can gather and sing and pray and do puja. Do can pray incessantly for Swami to come here to the US.... I am praying incessantly for Swami to come and build a Sathya Sai School for children right here in New Hampshire and I will continue to do so .. I would ask other devotees to please join me in this fervant prayer. Our children are our future as a country and they need real guidance and schooling. I call on every US devottee to pray daily at thier altars .. for Swami to come to the US with more love. For us devottees are the ones need to draw him here and to other places in the world. Have faith and prayers can change the very world we live in and that is what Swami is asking of us ... daily!! But I firmly believe and know that if every devottee in the United States wether part of a Sai center or not ... made a puja room and prayed daily we would be part of Swami's secret mission which is not just for the US but for the world. We would be a part of Swami's mission to secretly channel the efforts of his 'workers' to not only physically and mentally help, but to be 'cleansing angels' for society at metaphysical levels. Quite a clever fellow indeed our Lord is. Consider that and then consider Swami's next quote ... " Love is the only alchemy, the only solution in the Kali Yuga. It is the only possible weapon with which to fight the evil tendencies. One should not meet hate with hate. One should meet hate with love. I tell you, love is the most wonderful thing and can work great miracles by changing the very nature and character of man. It works from within the person, from inside, and so the change is more thorough and absolute, though the curing process is slow. Therefore, develop love towards everyone." All else will happen in Swami's own good time. Sai Ram Melody - Maya saibabanews Saturday, March 06, 2004 4:47 AM [saibabanews] Re: News from Brindavan (Whitefield), Mar 4, 2004 Sai RamWhat are we supposed to expect in these last 18th years of Bhagavan's life? Is He ever going to indroduce Himself to the US?Except the few devotees i knowaround here, nobody also is aware of Him. others never heard the word Avatar and most of them dont want to know. What is our job at this point? can we tell or shall we keep the silence on. Please post this note so the sai devotees can share their opinions with me. thank you.Sai Ram saibabanews wrote: News from Brindavan (Whitefield) Posted from Whitefield, Bangalore on 4th March, 2004 Sai Ram, 3-4-04 I am in Whitefield with no sign of Baba. There are so many rumor that it is hard to make any reasonable decision based on them. However, someone pointed out that the temperature in Prasanthi Nilayam is over 100. I think this would be an incentive for Baba to get devotees out of the heat. I am not sure what I am going to do. I have some business to take care of Friday morning and then I will decide. I may take the chance and return to Prasanthi. It is strange seeing Brindavan and the surrounding area after 23 years. I knew it was built up but I thought it would be different. The Hall has been expanded and is finished. It looks great. The whole ashram looks great. But from outside the walls the covering over the hall looks lousy. The Gokulam area is impressive. I walked around different areas of Whitefield. There are several very modern up-to-date buildings that would rival other places in the world. It is clear that India is caught up in leaping into the 21st century while still have to deal with the tremendous problems from the past. The Indian economy is growing rapidly. There is every reason to believe that India will accomplish the modernization of the country soon. The top leaders of India and of several state governments are committed to serving the people and improving the infrastructure. With them seeking guidance from Baba and following his advice, India will move into the modern age while retaining and improving its spiritual stance. India will excel as the spiritual leader of the world as it becomes the leader in the economic and political fields. India will be the example for the world and the world will follow. This is as I understand Sai Baba's Will. We are here to witness and be part of it. In india and in the rest of the world. We are witnesses to the most glorious and revolutionary transformation in the history of mankind.Gerald Dominick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 Dear Friend Swami is " Antharyami". If you think He is near you ; then He is definitely. Any way whether you think or not ; He is Around you; beside you and in you. Just as the mother thinks more about the child who is staying in a far off place than one who is with her ; Lord Sai is no different than an affectionate mother. His Love is more than 1000..... mothers. Someone longing to See Him in person is really blessed. To clear all our questions one can read " Sathyopanishad " 2 volumes by Prof . Anilkumar vijayaraghavan - Rama Talasila saibabanews Saturday, March 06, 2004 3:09 PM [saibabanews] Re: News from Brindavan (Whitefield), Mar 4, 2004 Sister,Not to hurt your feelings.Sami does not need anyintroduction.As swami always says he is everywhere forthe people who have faith in him.I am in virginialast one year many times I physically saw swami in myhouse.Sorry to say I dont accpet the fact nobody knows himin USA.I have seen many forigners also in our bhajancenter.If you want to physically have him in USA just prayhim.He will answer your prayer.Please dont get hurt atwhat I am trying to express the pain when I saw yourmail. Baba Please forgive me if I hurt MayaHumble pranam's at the lotus feet of Swami --- Maya wrote:> Sai Ram> What are we supposed to expect in these last 18th> years of Bhagavan's life?> Is He ever going to indroduce Himself to the US?> Except the few devotees i know> around here, nobody also is aware of Him. others> never heard the word Avatar and most of them dont> want to know.> What is our job at this point? can we tell or shall> we keep the silence on.> Please post this note so the sai devotees can share> their opinions with me. thank you.> Sai Ram> > ibabanews wrote:> > News from Brindavan (Whitefield)> > Posted from Whitefield, Bangalore on 4th March, 2004> > > Sai Ram,> > 3-4-04> > I am in Whitefield with no sign of Baba. There are> so many rumor that it is hard to make any reasonable> decision based on them.> > However, someone pointed out that the temperature in> Prasanthi Nilayam is over 100. I think this would be> an incentive for Baba to get devotees out of the> heat. > > I am not sure what I am going to do. I have some> business to take care of Friday morning and then I> will decide. I may take the chance and return to> Prasanthi. > > It is strange seeing Brindavan and the surrounding> area after 23 years. I knew it was built up but I> thought it would be different.> > The Hall has been expanded and is finished. It looks> great. The whole ashram looks great. But from> outside the walls the covering over the hall looks> lousy.> > The Gokulam area is impressive. I walked around> different areas of Whitefield. There are several> very modern up-to-date buildings that would rival> other places in the world.> > It is clear that India is caught up in leaping into> the 21st century while still have to deal with the> tremendous problems from the past. The Indian> economy is growing rapidly. There is every reason to> believe that India will accomplish the modernization> of the country soon.> > The top leaders of India and of several state> governments are committed to serving the people and> improving the infrastructure. With them seeking> guidance from Baba and following his advice, India> will move into the modern age while retaining and> improving its spiritual stance. > > India will excel as the spiritual leader of the> world as it becomes the leader in the economic and> political fields. India will be the example for the> world and the world will follow.> > This is as I understand Sai Baba's Will.> > We are here to witness and be part of it. In india> and in the rest of the world. We are witnesses to> the most glorious and revolutionary transformation> in the history of mankind.> > Gerald Dominick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 Dear Sai Brothers and sisters( living abroad) SAI is accessible to almost every Human living in India by at maximum 24/36 hour journey by train/bus. But how many could make a trip Prasanthi Nilayam. I have been living India for over 25 years beside my days of childhood and college days ; but never could have darshan of Swami. But after I came to Middle east the very first year with Divine's Will , I could get His Darshan. I always use to feel envious when I see the devotion of overseas visitors at Parthi. I used to get inspired by that. It is easier for us Indians to take Him as our Lord. The true Sadhana is the one , overseas devotees are practicing. Longing for Him to see Him means He is permanently installed in your Hearts. This is true Devotion. Mr Hislop ,Mr Goldstein , Mr Sinclair and many many other devout persons of foreign origin stand testimony not only to US devotees but to all of us around the Globe. We all know the miracles they have experoenced from The Divine Hands. Swami suddenly appeared in their rooms, saved their lives and so on. All these happened even before they knew about SAI at all. We need to draw inspiration from these great personalities and wait at the Lotus Feet. I salute you all. V K Vijayaraghavan - Melody McClarty saibabanews Saturday, March 06, 2004 3:46 PM [saibabanews] Re: News from Brindavan (Whitefield), Mar 4, 2004 Sai Ram, Dear Maya, Who knows what to expect in the last 18 years of Swami's life here until he goes and then becomes Prema Sai. That is his leela. But we in the US should not lose faith because he has not come here yet ... he has in many ways .. very secretly. Those of us who know of him ... have the sacred and secret duty of trying to follow his teachings, be examples, and through prayer draw our lords energy here to purify and energize the areas, people, and places around us. We must have complete faith in Sai and we must pray daily. We must pray and draw him here to the US .... for sooner or later ... Swami WILL make his presence known ... but more than likely it will be through a situation where the US will turn for help ... Not unlike many a egotistical individual who doesn't turn to Swami until they have real need to do so... until there is some crisis of some kind. Look how 911 drew a resurgance of prayer in this country after years of many people trying to abolish prayer altogeather from our activities and our schools. We who are in the United States have a real job ... to pray and do our sadhana with ernest so that we can draw Our Lord Sai's energy here into this country ... so that his Love can start to do the slow internal change that occurs... the transformation that Swami likes to do best ... which is through love .. on a deep internal level .. so that the change will be long lasting and permanent. Our job ...is to follow his teachings, strengthen our faith in the avatar and his mission, pray continuously to him for faith, guidance, strength, and to come into our homes. Literally ... to Nag him with our fervant prayers .... He hears... he will come. But we must surrender also first. We must surrender our lives, our outcomes, our futures, our journeys all to him and be confident that he truly knows what is best ... and to Swami leave all the rest. But we must never stop praying ....do puja's ... do service and more service... Yes I agree that our centers are few and far between... That is very unfortunate in the US. I too have the problem of being a 3 hour drive one way .. to go any center at all for Swami.... but that isn't his only mission here ... The Sai Centers are only part. Swami has other charitable services that are gathering force in pure seva and devotion. We do not have to be part of Sai Center on a regular basis to form a group that meet weekly to do bhajans, sing his name, and pray. We can gather people ... even if its just your family ... though we should make every effort to participate if we're near one .... like household you can find the nearest homeless shelter and serve. You can gather and sing and pray and do puja. Do can pray incessantly for Swami to come here to the US.... I am praying incessantly for Swami to come and build a Sathya Sai School for children right here in New Hampshire and I will continue to do so .. I would ask other devotees to please join me in this fervant prayer. Our children are our future as a country and they need real guidance and schooling. I call on every US devottee to pray daily at thier altars .. for Swami to come to the US with more love. For us devottees are the ones need to draw him here and to other places in the world. Have faith and prayers can change the very world we live in and that is what Swami is asking of us ... daily!! But I firmly believe and know that if every devottee in the United States wether part of a Sai center or not ... made a puja room and prayed daily we would be part of Swami's secret mission which is not just for the US but for the world. We would be a part of Swami's mission to secretly channel the efforts of his 'workers' to not only physically and mentally help, but to be 'cleansing angels' for society at metaphysical levels. Quite a clever fellow indeed our Lord is. Consider that and then consider Swami's next quote ... " Love is the only alchemy, the only solution in the Kali Yuga. It is the only possible weapon with which to fight the evil tendencies. One should not meet hate with hate. One should meet hate with love. I tell you, love is the most wonderful thing and can work great miracles by changing the very nature and character of man. It works from within the person, from inside, and so the change is more thorough and absolute, though the curing process is slow. Therefore, develop love towards everyone." All else will happen in Swami's own good time. Sai Ram Melody - Maya saibabanews Saturday, March 06, 2004 4:47 AM [saibabanews] Re: News from Brindavan (Whitefield), Mar 4, 2004 Sai Ram What are we supposed to expect in these last 18th years of Bhagavan's life? Is He ever going to indroduce Himself to the US? Except the few devotees i know around here, nobody also is aware of Him. others never heard the word Avatar and most of them dont want to know. What is our job at this point? can we tell or shall we keep the silence on. Please post this note so the sai devotees can share their opinions with me. thank you. Sai Ram saibabanews wrote: News from Brindavan (Whitefield) Posted from Whitefield, Bangalore on 4th March, 2004 Sai Ram, 3-4-04 I am in Whitefield with no sign of Baba. There are so many rumor that it is hard to make any reasonable decision based on them. However, someone pointed out that the temperature in Prasanthi Nilayam is over 100. I think this would be an incentive for Baba to get devotees out of the heat. I am not sure what I am going to do. I have some business to take care of Friday morning and then I will decide. I may take the chance and return to Prasanthi. It is strange seeing Brindavan and the surrounding area after 23 years. I knew it was built up but I thought it would be different. The Hall has been expanded and is finished. It looks great. The whole ashram looks great. But from outside the walls the covering over the hall looks lousy. The Gokulam area is impressive. I walked around different areas of Whitefield. There are several very modern up-to-date buildings that would rival other places in the world. It is clear that India is caught up in leaping into the 21st century while still have to deal with the tremendous problems from the past. The Indian economy is growing rapidly. There is every reason to believe that India will accomplish the modernization of the country soon. The top leaders of India and of several state governments are committed to serving the people and improving the infrastructure. With them seeking guidance from Baba and following his advice, India will move into the modern age while retaining and improving its spiritual stance. India will excel as the spiritual leader of the world as it becomes the leader in the economic and political fields. India will be the example for the world and the world will follow. This is as I understand Sai Baba's Will. We are here to witness and be part of it. In india and in the rest of the world. We are witnesses to the most glorious and revolutionary transformation in the history of mankind. 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Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 Sai Ram. It is indeed a great joy and with immense happiness I note that devotees in US are yearning for His much promised visit to US. Melody has written very well for what we devotees should do and in her last line she says - Everything in Swami's own time. Yes that is what Swami says - LOVE MY UNCERTAINITY. So till then - while we yearn for HIS VISIT - we have to do what Swami wd appreciate - become better what we already are - better Christians, better Hindus, better Muslims, better Human Beings. It is the first time in this Kali Yuga - that the Avataar in the form of Swami has revealed His Identity as an Avataar during His life on earth. Swami said HIS LIFE IS HIS MESSAGE - which later became a directive to devotees - YOUR LIFE IS MY MESSAGE. So this makes every devotee responsible to live a life style that would make Swami proud of us devotees. While I agree with Melody on the aspect of daily prayer - I wd like to add that constant namasmarna is also a great tool to bring us back on track. It can be the Sai Gayatri or any one of the 108 names for Swami or just Sai Ram Sai Ram Sai Ram - which ever mantra you choose - it should be kept time with our breathing - so till we are consicious of our breathing - we keep repeating the mantra. All in all remember - HE IS RECEIVING EACH AND EVERY PRAYER OF OURS. Sai Ram - Be Happy JP PS: We had sent to all devotees who are on our list - calenders for 2004 - these were printed with TEN FOLD PATH TO DIVINITY. We still have some copies left - we can send these free - but postage has to be paid be the devotee requesting. You may mail us for more information. Sai Ram ~~~~~~~~~~~Melody McClarty wrote: Sai Ram, Dear Maya, Who knows what to expect in the last 18 years of Swami's life here until he goes and then becomes Prema Sai. That is his leela. But we in the US should not lose faith because he has not come here yet ... he has in many ways .. very secretly. Those of us who know of him ... have the sacred and secret duty of trying to follow his teachings, be examples, and through prayer draw our lords energy here to purify and energize the areas, people, and places around us. We must have complete faith in Sai and we must pray daily. We must pray and draw him here to the US .... for sooner or later ... Swami WILL make his presence known ... but more than likely it will be through a situation where the US will turn for help ... Not unlike many a egotistical individual who doesn't turn to Swami until they have real need to do so... until there is some crisis of some kind. Look how 911 drew a resurgance of prayer in this country after years of many people trying to abolish prayer altogeather from our activities and our schools. We who are in the United States have a real job ... to pray and do our sadhana with ernest so that we can draw Our Lord Sai's energy here into this country ... so that his Love can start to do the slow internal change that occurs... the transformation that Swami likes to do best ... which is through love .. on a deep internal level .. so that the change will be long lasting and permanent. Our job ...is to follow his teachings, strengthen our faith in the avatar and his mission, pray continuously to him for faith, guidance, strength, and to come into our homes. Literally ... to Nag him with our fervant prayers .... He hears... he will come. But we must surrender also first. We must surrender our lives, our outcomes, our futures, our journeys all to him and be confident that he truly knows what is best ... and to Swami leave all the rest. But we must never stop praying ....do puja's ... do service and more service... Yes I agree that our centers are few and far between... That is very unfortunate in the US. I too have the problem of being a 3 hour drive one way .. to go any center at all for Swami.... but that isn't his only mission here ... The Sai Centers are only part. Swami has other charitable services that are gathering force in pure seva and devotion. We do not have to be part of Sai Center on a regular basis to form a group that meet weekly to do bhajans, sing his name, and pray. We can gather people ... even if its just your family ... though we should make every effort to participate if we're near one .... like household you can find the nearest homeless shelter and serve. You can gather and sing and pray and do puja. Do can pray incessantly for Swami to come here to the US.... I am praying incessantly for Swami to come and build a Sathya Sai School for children right here in New Hampshire and I will continue to do so .. I would ask other devotees to please join me in this fervant prayer. Our children are our future as a country and they need real guidance and schooling. I call on every US devottee to pray daily at thier altars .. for Swami to come to the US with more love. For us devottees are the ones need to draw him here and to other places in the world. Have faith and prayers can change the very world we live in and that is what Swami is asking of us ... daily!! But I firmly believe and know that if every devottee in the United States wether part of a Sai center or not ... made a puja room and prayed daily we would be part of Swami's secret mission which is not just for the US but for the world. We would be a part of Swami's mission to secretly channel the efforts of his 'workers' to not only physically and mentally help, but to be 'cleansing angels' for society at metaphysical levels. Quite a clever fellow indeed our Lord is. Consider that and then consider Swami's next quote ... " Love is the only alchemy, the only solution in the Kali Yuga. It is the only possible weapon with which to fight the evil tendencies. One should not meet hate with hate. One should meet hate with love. I tell you, love is the most wonderful thing and can work great miracles by changing the very nature and character of man. It works from within the person, from inside, and so the change is more thorough and absolute, though the curing process is slow. Therefore, develop love towards everyone." All else will happen in Swami's own good time. Sai Ram Melody - Maya saibabanews Saturday, March 06, 2004 4:47 AM [saibabanews] Re: News from Brindavan (Whitefield), Mar 4, 2004 Sai RamWhat are we supposed to expect in these last 18th years of Bhagavan's life? Is He ever going to indroduce Himself to the US?Except the few devotees i knowaround here, nobody also is aware of Him. others never heard the word Avatar and most of them dont want to know. What is our job at this point? can we tell or shall we keep the silence on. Please post this note so the sai devotees can share their opinions with me. thank you.Sai Ram saibabanews wrote: News from Brindavan (Whitefield) Posted from Whitefield, Bangalore on 4th March, 2004 Sai Ram, 3-4-04 I am in Whitefield with no sign of Baba. There are so many rumor that it is hard to make any reasonable decision based on them. However, someone pointed out that the temperature in Prasanthi Nilayam is over 100. I think this would be an incentive for Baba to get devotees out of the heat. I am not sure what I am going to do. I have some business to take care of Friday morning and then I will decide. I may take the chance and return to Prasanthi. It is strange seeing Brindavan and the surrounding area after 23 years. I knew it was built up but I thought it would be different. The Hall has been expanded and is finished. It looks great. The whole ashram looks great. But from outside the walls the covering over the hall looks lousy. The Gokulam area is impressive. I walked around different areas of Whitefield. There are several very modern up-to-date buildings that would rival other places in the world. It is clear that India is caught up in leaping into the 21st century while still have to deal with the tremendous problems from the past. The Indian economy is growing rapidly. There is every reason to believe that India will accomplish the modernization of the country soon. The top leaders of India and of several state governments are committed to serving the people and improving the infrastructure. With them seeking guidance from Baba and following his advice, India will move into the modern age while retaining and improving its spiritual stance. India will excel as the spiritual leader of the world as it becomes the leader in the economic and political fields. India will be the example for the world and the world will follow. This is as I understand Sai Baba's Will. We are here to witness and be part of it. 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Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 It is wonderful to read the dialogue between all of us regarding calling Swami to the US. I can just imagine him listening to all of us and having a quiet chuckle Baba is already with us all - please remember that ALWAYS. Whether he comes to the US in his physical form or not, he is always present with all of us at every moment and knows all our thoughts and wishes. With love and light to all, Madhvi Attachment: (image/jpeg) Clouds.jpg [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 Om Sri Sai Ram. Well said Jatindar Saab ! Namasmaranam will bring Swamy wherever we want HIM. Just when reading your mail, a thought came to me (?!) - why not all devotees out there in US have a common weekly Namasmaranam selected and chant that single Nama wholeheartedly and with sincere prayers ? Please consider this and start consolidating all US devotees and start spreading the message - and let us start from the coming Thursday, 11th March - one mantra a week from Thursday to Wednesday; and another from the next Thursday to the next Wed.. and so on ! You may use this same group for this. To go a little off the way, let me share my experience - it might sound funny. Whenever we chant "Loka Samastha Sukino Bhavanthu" at our samithi, I used to visualise a scene wherein Vajpayi and Musharef are having tea together in the most friendly atmosphere ! I believe that if the positive thoughts are spread in the ether, the animosity will come to an end. ( I do not think that a recent news that upon a tip off from Indian RAW wing, attempt on Musharef's life was thwarted - is just a coincidence ). What I mean is the collective and the single minded prayers will definitely have an effect of fulfilling our wish ! Jai Sai Ram. Balaji, Doha, Qatar ________________________________ Jatindar Shad [egreatindia] Sun 07-Mar-04 3:57 PM saibabanews; Melody McClarty [saibabanews] Re: News from Brindavan (Whitefield), Mar 4, 2004 Dear Melody and Maya, Sai Ram. It is indeed a great joy and with immense happiness I note that devotees in US are yearning for His much promised visit to US. Melody has written very well for what we devotees should do and in her last line she says - Everything in Swami's own time. Yes that is what Swami says - LOVE MY UNCERTAINITY. So till then - while we yearn for HIS VISIT - we have to do what Swami wd appreciate - become better what we already are - better Christians, better Hindus, better Muslims, better Human Beings. It is the first time in this Kali Yuga - that the Avataar in the form of Swami has revealed His Identity as an Avataar during His life on earth. Swami said HIS LIFE IS HIS MESSAGE - which later became a directive to devotees - YOUR LIFE IS MY MESSAGE. So this makes every devotee responsible to live a life style that would make Swami proud of us devotees. While I agree with Melody on the aspect of daily prayer - I wd like to add that constant namasmarna is also a great tool to bring us back on track. It can be the Sai Gayatri or any one of the 108 names for Swami or just Sai Ram Sai Ram Sai Ram - which ever mantra you choose - it should be kept time with our breathing - so till we are consicious of our breathing - we keep repeating the mantra. All in all remember - HE IS RECEIVING EACH AND EVERY PRAYER OF OURS. Sai Ram - Be Happy JP PS: We had sent to all devotees who are on our list - calenders for 2004 - these were printed with TEN FOLD PATH TO DIVINITY. We still have some copies left - we can send these free - but postage has to be paid be the devotee requesting. You may mail us for more information. Sai Ram ~~~~~~~~~~~ Melody McClarty wrote: Sai Ram, Dear Maya, Who knows what to expect in the last 18 years of Swami's life here until he goes and then becomes Prema Sai. That is his leela. But we in the US should not lose faith because he has not come here yet ... he has in many ways .. very secretly. Those of us who know of him ... have the sacred and secret duty of trying to follow his teachings, be examples, and through prayer draw our lords energy here to purify and energize the areas, people, and places around us. We must have complete faith in Sai and we must pray daily. We must pray and draw him here to the US .... for sooner or later ... Swami WILL make his presence known ... but more than likely it will be through a situation where the US will turn for help ... Not unlike many a egotistical individual who doesn't turn to Swami until they have real need to do so... until there is some crisis of some kind. Look how 911 drew a resurgance of prayer in this country after years of many people trying to abolish prayer altogeather from our activities and our schools. We who are in the United States have a real job ... to pray and do our sadhana with ernest so that we can draw Our Lord Sai's energy here into this country ... so that his Love can start to do the slow internal change that occurs... the transformation that Swami likes to do best ... which is through love .. on a deep internal level .. so that the change will be long lasting and permanent. Our job ...is to follow his teachings, strengthen our faith in the avatar and his mission, pray continuously to him for faith, guidance, strength, and to come into our homes. Literally ... to Nag him with our fervant prayers .... He hears... he will come. But we must surrender also first. We must surrender our lives, our outcomes, our futures, our journeys all to him and be confident that he truly knows what is best ... and to Swami leave all the rest. But we must never stop praying ....do puja's ... do service and more service... Yes I agree that our centers are few and far between... That is very unfortunate in the US. I too have the problem of being a 3 hour drive one way .. to go any center at all for Swami.... but that isn't his only mission here ... The Sai Centers are only part. Swami has other charitable services that are gathering force in pure seva and devotion. We do not have to be part of Sai Center on a regular basis to form a group that meet weekly to do bhajans, sing his name, and pray. We can gather people ... even if its just your family ... though we should make every effort to participate if we're near one .... like household you can find the nearest homeless shelter and serve. You can gather and sing and pray and do puja. Do can pray incessantly for Swami to come here to the US.... I am praying incessantly for Swami to come and build a Sathya Sai School for children right here in New Hampshire and I will continue to do so .. I would ask other devotees to please join me in this fervant prayer. Our children are our future as a country and they need real guidance and schooling. I call on every US devottee to pray daily at thier altars .. for Swami to come to the US with more love. For us devottees are the ones need to draw him here and to other places in the world. Have faith and prayers can change the very world we live in and that is what Swami is asking of us ... daily!! But I firmly believe and know that if every devottee in the United States wether part of a Sai center or not ... made a puja room and prayed daily we would be part of Swami's secret mission which is not just for the US but for the world. We would be a part of Swami's mission to secretly channel the efforts of his 'workers' to not only physically and mentally help, but to be 'cleansing angels' for society at metaphysical levels. Quite a clever fellow indeed our Lord is. Consider that and then consider Swami's next quote ... " Love is the only alchemy, the only solution in the Kali Yuga. It is the only possible weapon with which to fight the evil tendencies. One should not meet hate with hate. One should meet hate with love. I tell you, love is the most wonderful thing and can work great miracles by changing the very nature and character of man. It works from within the person, from inside, and so the change is more thorough and absolute, though the curing process is slow. Therefore, develop love towards everyone." All else will happen in Swami's own good time. Sai Ram Melody - Maya <http://us.f415.mail./ym/="mthebrave"> saibabanews <http://us.f415.mail./ym/="saibabanews"> Saturday, March 06, 2004 4:47 AM [saibabanews] Re: News from Brindavan (Whitefield), Mar 4, 2004 Sai Ram What are we supposed to expect in these last 18th years of Bhagavan's life? Is He ever going to indroduce Himself to the US? Except the few devotees i know around here, nobody also is aware of Him. others never heard the word Avatar and most of them dont want to know. What is our job at this point? can we tell or shall we keep the silence on. Please post this note so the sai devotees can share their opinions with me. thank you. Sai Ram saibabanews wrote: News from Brindavan (Whitefield) Posted from Whitefield, Bangalore on 4th March, 2004 Sai Ram, 3-4-04 I am in Whitefield with no sign of Baba. There are so many rumor that it is hard to make any reasonable decision based on them. However, someone pointed out that the temperature in Prasanthi Nilayam is over 100. I think this would be an incentive for Baba to get devotees out of the heat. I am not sure what I am going to do. I have some business to take care of Friday morning and then I will decide. I may take the chance and return to Prasanthi. It is strange seeing Brindavan and the surrounding area after 23 years. I knew it was built up but I thought it would be different. The Hall has been expanded and is finished. It looks great. The whole ashram looks great. But from outside the walls the covering over the hall looks lousy. The Gokulam area is impressive. I walked around different areas of Whitefield. There are several very modern up-to-date buildings that would rival other places in the world. It is clear that India is caught up in leaping into the 21st century while still have to deal with the tremendous problems from the past. The Indian economy is growing rapidly. There is every reason to believe that India will accomplish the modernization of the country soon. The top leaders of India and of several state governments are committed to serving the people and improving the infrastructure. With them seeking guidance from Baba and following his advice, India will move into the modern age while retaining and improving its spiritual stance. India will excel as the spiritual leader of the world as it becomes the leader in the economic and political fields. India will be the example for the world and the world will follow. This is as I understand Sai Baba's Will. We are here to witness and be part of it. In india and in the rest of the world. We are witnesses to the most glorious and revolutionary transformation in the history of mankind. Gerald Dominick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 Sai Ram Ramalingam Balaji, What a wonderful idea about Namasmaranam ... I think it would be superb. Maybe in someway we could incorporate with the mantras .. one singular thought ... Swami come to the US ... Swami we love you. If everyone did this ... we could certainly move Swami to come to the US in a heartbeat. We must make a promise not to stop until this prayer is answered. I just read the article about the Joythi light that was carried to a little island in India. What an example of cooperation and single minded goals. We need that Joythi light in the US to dispel ignorance. This is a worth while project I hope other US devotees who are reading this site will join in and maybe we can make something happen with Swami's grace. Sai Ram your sister in Sai Melody - Ramalingam Balaji saibabanews Sunday, March 07, 2004 1:49 PM [saibabanews] Re: News from Brindavan (Whitefield), Mar 4, 2004 Om Sri Sai Ram.Well said Jatindar Saab !Namasmaranam will bring Swamy wherever we want HIM. Just when reading your mail, a thought came to me (?!) - why not all devotees out there in US have a common weekly Namasmaranam selected and chant that single Nama wholeheartedly and with sincere prayers ?Please consider this and start consolidating all US devotees and start spreading the message - and let us start from the coming Thursday, 11th March - one mantra a week from Thursday to Wednesday; and another from the next Thursday to the next Wed.. and so on ! You may use this same group for this.To go a little off the way, let me share my experience - it might sound funny.Whenever we chant "Loka Samastha Sukino Bhavanthu" at our samithi, I used to visualise a scene wherein Vajpayi and Musharef are having tea together in the most friendly atmosphere ! I believe that if the positive thoughts are spread in the ether, the animosity will come to an end. ( I do not think that a recent news that upon a tip off from Indian RAW wing, attempt on Musharef's life was thwarted - is just a coincidence ).What I mean is the collective and the single minded prayers will definitely have an effect of fulfilling our wish !Jai Sai Ram.Balaji, Doha, Qatar________________________________Jatindar Shad [egreatindia ]Sun 07-Mar-04 3:57 PMTo: saibabanews; Melody McClarty[saibabanews] Re: News from Brindavan (Whitefield), Mar 4, 2004Dear Melody and Maya, Sai Ram.It is indeed a great joy and with immense happiness I note that devotees in US are yearning for His much promised visit to US.Melody has written very well for what we devotees should do and in her last line she says - Everything in Swami's own time. Yes that is what Swami says - LOVE MY UNCERTAINITY.So till then - while we yearn for HIS VISIT - we have to do what Swami wd appreciate - become better what we already are - better Christians, better Hindus, better Muslims, better Human Beings.It is the first time in this Kali Yuga - that the Avataar in the form of Swami has revealed His Identity as an Avataar during His life on earth. Swami said HIS LIFE IS HIS MESSAGE - which later became a directive to devotees - YOUR LIFE IS MY MESSAGE. So this makes every devotee responsible to live a life style that would make Swami proud of us devotees. While I agree with Melody on the aspect of daily prayer - I wd like to add that constant namasmarna is also a great tool to bring us back on track. It can be the Sai Gayatri or any one of the 108 names for Swami or just Sai Ram Sai Ram Sai Ram - which ever mantra you choose - it should be kept time with our breathing - so till we are consicious of our breathing - we keep repeating the mantra.All in all remember - HE IS RECEIVING EACH AND EVERY PRAYER OF OURS.Sai Ram - Be HappyJPPS: We had sent to all devotees who are on our list - calenders for 2004 - these were printed with TEN FOLD PATH TO DIVINITY. We still have some copies left - we can send these free - but postage has to be paid be the devotee requesting. You may mail us for more information. Sai Ram~~~~~~~~~~~Melody McClarty wrote: Sai Ram, Dear Maya, Who knows what to expect in the last 18 years of Swami's life here until he goes and then becomes Prema Sai. That is his leela. But we in the US should not lose faith because he has not come here yet ... he has in many ways .. very secretly. Those of us who know of him ... have the sacred and secret duty of trying to follow his teachings, be examples, and through prayer draw our lords energy here to purify and energize the areas, people, and places around us. We must have complete faith in Sai and we must pray daily. We must pray and draw him here to the US .... for sooner or later ... Swami WILL make his presence known ... but more than likely it will be through a situation where the US will turn for help ... Not unlike many a egotistical individual who doesn't turn to Swami until they have real need to do so... until there is some crisis of some kind. Look how 911 drew a resurgance of prayer in this country after years of many people trying to abolish prayer altogeather from our activities and our schools. We who are in the United States have a real job ... to pray and do our sadhana with ernest so that we can draw Our Lord Sai's energy here into this country .... so that his Love can start to do the slow internal change that occurs... the transformation that Swami likes to do best ... which is through love .. on a deep internal level .. so that the change will be long lasting and permanent. Our job ...is to follow his teachings, strengthen our faith in the avatar and his mission, pray continuously to him for faith, guidance, strength, and to come into our homes. Literally ... to Nag him with our fervant prayers .... He hears... he will come. But we must surrender also first. We must surrender our lives, our outcomes, our futures, our journeys all to him and be confident that he truly knows what is best ... and to Swami leave all the rest. But we must never stop praying ....do puja's ... do service and more service... Yes I agree that our centers are few and far between... That is very unfortunate in the US. I too have the problem of being a 3 hour drive one way .. to go any center at all for Swami.... but that isn't his only mission here ... The Sai Centers are only part. Swami has other charitable services that are gathering force in pure seva and devotion. We do not have to be part of Sai Center on a regular basis to form a group that meet weekly to do bhajans, sing his name, and pray. We can gather people ... even if its just your family ... though we should make every effort to participate if we're near one .... like household you can find the nearest homeless shelter and serve. You can gather and sing and pray and do puja. Do can pray incessantly for Swami to come here to the US.... I am praying incessantly for Swami to come and build a Sathya Sai School for children right here in New Hampshire and I will continue to do so .. I would ask other devotees to please join me in this fervant prayer. Our children are our future as a country and they need real guidance and schooling. I call on every US devottee to pray daily at thier altars .. for Swami to come to the US with more love. For us devottees are the ones need to draw him here and to other places in the world. Have faith and prayers can change the very world we live in and that is what Swami is asking of us ... daily!! But I firmly believe and know that if every devottee in the United States wether part of a Sai center or not ... made a puja room and prayed daily we would be part of Swami's secret mission which is not just for the US but for the world. We would be a part of Swami's mission to secretly channel the efforts of his 'workers' to not only physically and mentally help, but to be 'cleansing angels' for society at metaphysical levels. Quite a clever fellow indeed our Lord is. Consider that and then consider Swami's next quote ... " Love is the only alchemy, the only solution in the Kali Yuga. It is the only possible weapon with which to fight the evil tendencies. One should not meet hate with hate. One should meet hate with love. I tell you, love is the most wonderful thing and can work great miracles by changing the very nature and character of man. It works from within the person, from inside, and so the change is more thorough and absolute, though the curing process is slow. Therefore, develop love towards everyone." All else will happen in Swami's own good time. Sai Ram Melody ----- Original Message ----- Maya < saibabanews < Saturday, March 06, 2004 4:47 AM Subject: [saibabanews] Re: News from Brindavan (Whitefield), Mar 4, 2004 Sai Ram What are we supposed to expect in these last 18th years of Bhagavan's life? Is He ever going to indroduce Himself to the US? Except the few devotees i know around here, nobody also is aware of Him. others never heard the word Avatar and most of them dont want to know. What is our job at this point? can we tell or shall we keep the silence on. Please post this note so the sai devotees can share their opinions with me. thank you. Sai Ram saibabanews wrote: News from Brindavan (Whitefield) Posted from Whitefield, Bangalore on 4th March, 2004 Sai Ram, 3-4-04 I am in Whitefield with no sign of Baba. There are so many rumor that it is hard to make any reasonable decision based on them. However, someone pointed out that the temperature in Prasanthi Nilayam is over 100. I think this would be an incentive for Baba to get devotees out of the heat. I am not sure what I am going to do. I have some business to take care of Friday morning and then I will decide. I may take the chance and return to Prasanthi. It is strange seeing Brindavan and the surrounding area after 23 years. I knew it was built up but I thought it would be different. The Hall has been expanded and is finished. It looks great. The whole ashram looks great. But from outside the walls the covering over the hall looks lousy. The Gokulam area is impressive. I walked around different areas of Whitefield. There are several very modern up-to-date buildings that would rival other places in the world. It is clear that India is caught up in leaping into the 21st century while still have to deal with the tremendous problems from the past. The Indian economy is growing rapidly. There is every reason to believe that India will accomplish the modernization of the country soon. The top leaders of India and of several state governments are committed to serving the people and improving the infrastructure. With them seeking guidance from Baba and following his advice, India will move into the modern age while retaining and improving its spiritual stance. India will excel as the spiritual leader of the world as it becomes the leader in the economic and political fields. India will be the example for the world and the world will follow. This is as I understand Sai Baba's Will. We are here to witness and be part of it. In india and in the rest of the world. We are witnesses to the most glorious and revolutionary transformation in the history of mankind. Gerald Dominick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 MadhviSai (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Dearest All,It is wonderful to read the dialogue between all of us regarding calling Swami to the US.I can just imagine him listening to all of us and having a quiet chuckle Baba is already with us all - please remember that ALWAYS. Whether he comes to the US in his physical form or not, he is always present with all of us at every moment and knows all our thoughts and wishes.With love and light to all,Madhvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 Sai Ram Melody, Yesterday when I first read about the Jyothi travelling from Madurai to Mumbai - I was amazed - this spectacular feat was made possible only by His Grace and His Blessings. But, as I was reading it at the back of my mind was the thought process of how we could have the sacred flame to reach Sai Centres in US and Europe from where devotees could carry it to their homes. I was positive that the flame will be a loud awakening call for all and the excercise wd bring awareness about Swami to many. In the times of Lord Krishna - every gopi used to get the sacred flame from Krishna's house - to illuminate their own homes at night with sacredness. The Akhand Jyothi - sacred flame - also requires full attention - oil has to be added, wick has to be trimmed and the flame adjusted - this has to go on for 24 hours in a devotees house - calls for some strong discipline. Sai Ram - Be Happy JP PS - Were you not to be in HIS presence around this time in March? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Melody McClarty wrote: Sai Ram Ramalingam Balaji, I just read the article about the Joythi light that was carried to a little island in India. What an example of cooperation and single minded goals. We need that Joythi light in the US to dispel ignorance. This is a worth while project I hope other US devotees who are reading this site will join in and maybe we can make something happen with Swami's grace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 Why not? And it would not be the same thing like thinking about Him or dreaming about Him or meditating about Him. Why dont you come out and say the truth like Swami teaches you? Said the truth. Sathya Sathya Sathya! Maya. Sai Ram indar Shad wrote: Dear Melody and Maya, Sai Ram. It is indeed a great joy and with immense happiness I note that devotees in US are yearning for His much promised visit to US. Melody has written very well for what we devotees should do and in her last line she says - Everything in Swami's own time. Yes that is what Swami says - LOVE MY UNCERTAINITY. So till then - while we yearn for HIS VISIT - we have to do what Swami wd appreciate - become better what we already are - better Christians, better Hindus, better Muslims, better Human Beings. It is the first time in this Kali Yuga - that the Avataar in the form of Swami has revealed His Identity as an Avataar during His life on earth. Swami said HIS LIFE IS HIS MESSAGE - which later became a directive to devotees - YOUR LIFE IS MY MESSAGE. So this makes every devotee responsible to live a life style that would make Swami proud of us devotees. While I agree with Melody on the aspect of daily prayer - I wd like to add that constant namasmarna is also a great tool to bring us back on track. It can be the Sai Gayatri or any one of the 108 names for Swami or just Sai Ram Sai Ram Sai Ram - which ever mantra you choose - it should be kept time with our breathing - so till we are consicious of our breathing - we keep repeating the mantra. All in all remember - HE IS RECEIVING EACH AND EVERY PRAYER OF OURS. Sai Ram - Be Happy JP PS: We had sent to all devotees who are on our list - calenders for 2004 - these were printed with TEN FOLD PATH TO DIVINITY. We still have some copies left - we can send these free - but postage has to be paid be the devotee requesting. You may mail us for more information. Sai Ram ~~~~~~~~~~~Melody McClarty wrote: Sai Ram, Dear Maya, Who knows what to expect in the last 18 years of Swami's life here until he goes and then becomes Prema Sai. That is his leela. But we in the US should not lose faith because he has not come here yet ... he has in many ways .. very secretly. Those of us who know of him ... have the sacred and secret duty of trying to follow his teachings, be examples, and through prayer draw our lords energy here to purify and energize the areas, people, and places around us. We must have complete faith in Sai and we must pray daily. We must pray and draw him here to the US .... for sooner or later ... Swami WILL make his presence known ... but more than likely it will be through a situation where the US will turn for help ... Not unlike many a egotistical individual who doesn't turn to Swami until they have real need to do so... until there is some crisis of some kind. Look how 911 drew a resurgance of prayer in this country after years of many people trying to abolish prayer altogeather from our activities and our schools. We who are in the United States have a real job ... to pray and do our sadhana with ernest so that we can draw Our Lord Sai's energy here into this country ... so that his Love can start to do the slow internal change that occurs... the transformation that Swami likes to do best ... which is through love .. on a deep internal level .. so that the change will be long lasting and permanent. Our job ...is to follow his teachings, strengthen our faith in the avatar and his mission, pray continuously to him for faith, guidance, strength, and to come into our homes. Literally ... to Nag him with our fervant prayers .... He hears... he will come. But we must surrender also first. We must surrender our lives, our outcomes, our futures, our journeys all to him and be confident that he truly knows what is best ... and to Swami leave all the rest. But we must never stop praying ....do puja's ... do service and more service... Yes I agree that our centers are few and far between... That is very unfortunate in the US. I too have the problem of being a 3 hour drive one way .. to go any center at all for Swami.... but that isn't his only mission here ... The Sai Centers are only part. Swami has other charitable services that are gathering force in pure seva and devotion. We do not have to be part of Sai Center on a regular basis to form a group that meet weekly to do bhajans, sing his name, and pray. We can gather people ... even if its just your family ... though we should make every effort to participate if we're near one .... like household you can find the nearest homeless shelter and serve. You can gather and sing and pray and do puja. Do can pray incessantly for Swami to come here to the US.... I am praying incessantly for Swami to come and build a Sathya Sai School for children right here in New Hampshire and I will continue to do so .. I would ask other devotees to please join me in this fervant prayer. Our children are our future as a country and they need real guidance and schooling. I call on every US devottee to pray daily at thier altars .. for Swami to come to the US with more love. For us devottees are the ones need to draw him here and to other places in the world. Have faith and prayers can change the very world we live in and that is what Swami is asking of us ... daily!! But I firmly believe and know that if every devottee in the United States wether part of a Sai center or not ... made a puja room and prayed daily we would be part of Swami's secret mission which is not just for the US but for the world. We would be a part of Swami's mission to secretly channel the efforts of his 'workers' to not only physically and mentally help, but to be 'cleansing angels' for society at metaphysical levels. Quite a clever fellow indeed our Lord is. Consider that and then consider Swami's next quote ... " Love is the only alchemy, the only solution in the Kali Yuga. It is the only possible weapon with which to fight the evil tendencies. One should not meet hate with hate. One should meet hate with love. I tell you, love is the most wonderful thing and can work great miracles by changing the very nature and character of man. It works from within the person, from inside, and so the change is more thorough and absolute, though the curing process is slow. Therefore, develop love towards everyone." All else will happen in Swami's own good time. Sai Ram Melody - Maya saibabanews Saturday, March 06, 2004 4:47 AM [saibabanews] Re: News from Brindavan (Whitefield), Mar 4, 2004 Sai RamWhat are we supposed to expect in these last 18th years of Bhagavan's life? Is He ever going to indroduce Himself to the US?Except the few devotees i knowaround here, nobody also is aware of Him. others never heard the word Avatar and most of them dont want to know. What is our job at this point? can we tell or shall we keep the silence on. Please post this note so the sai devotees can share their opinions with me. thank you.Sai Ram saibabanews wrote: News from Brindavan (Whitefield) Posted from Whitefield, Bangalore on 4th March, 2004 Sai Ram, 3-4-04 I am in Whitefield with no sign of Baba. There are so many rumor that it is hard to make any reasonable decision based on them. However, someone pointed out that the temperature in Prasanthi Nilayam is over 100. I think this would be an incentive for Baba to get devotees out of the heat. I am not sure what I am going to do. I have some business to take care of Friday morning and then I will decide. I may take the chance and return to Prasanthi. It is strange seeing Brindavan and the surrounding area after 23 years. I knew it was built up but I thought it would be different. The Hall has been expanded and is finished. It looks great. The whole ashram looks great. But from outside the walls the covering over the hall looks lousy. The Gokulam area is impressive. I walked around different areas of Whitefield. There are several very modern up-to-date buildings that would rival other places in the world. It is clear that India is caught up in leaping into the 21st century while still have to deal with the tremendous problems from the past. The Indian economy is growing rapidly. There is every reason to believe that India will accomplish the modernization of the country soon. The top leaders of India and of several state governments are committed to serving the people and improving the infrastructure. With them seeking guidance from Baba and following his advice, India will move into the modern age while retaining and improving its spiritual stance. India will excel as the spiritual leader of the world as it becomes the leader in the economic and political fields. India will be the example for the world and the world will follow. This is as I understand Sai Baba's Will. We are here to witness and be part of it. In india and in the rest of the world. We are witnesses to the most glorious and revolutionary transformation in the history of mankind.Gerald Dominick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 No one on the forum said it anything against Swami coming to US. Everyone expressed what we can do - spiritually - till His visit materialised. Or shall we say hasten His visit to US - we have to make the environ condusive with selfless spiritual activity. And with humor - if I may add - if wishes had wings elephants wd fly. Prayer is better then wish. Sai Ram - Be Happy Jatindar ~~~~~~~~~~~~~Maya wrote: Dear everyone.Whats wrong with wishing to have Swami in United States? I wished He was here. Why not? And it would not be the same thing like thinking about Him or dreaming about Him or meditating about Him. Why dont you come out and say the truth like Swami teaches you? Said the truth. Sathya Sathya Sathya! Maya. Sai Ram indar Shad wrote: Dear Melody and Maya, Sai Ram. It is indeed a great joy and with immense happiness I note that devotees in US are yearning for His much promised visit to US. Melody has written very well for what we devotees should do and in her last line she says - Everything in Swami's own time. Yes that is what Swami says - LOVE MY UNCERTAINITY. So till then - while we yearn for HIS VISIT - we have to do what Swami wd appreciate - become better what we already are - better Christians, better Hindus, better Muslims, better Human Beings. It is the first time in this Kali Yuga - that the Avataar in the form of Swami has revealed His Identity as an Avataar during His life on earth. Swami said HIS LIFE IS HIS MESSAGE - which later became a directive to devotees - YOUR LIFE IS MY MESSAGE. So this makes every devotee responsible to live a life style that would make Swami proud of us devotees. While I agree with Melody on the aspect of daily prayer - I wd like to add that constant namasmarna is also a great tool to bring us back on track. It can be the Sai Gayatri or any one of the 108 names for Swami or just Sai Ram Sai Ram Sai Ram - which ever mantra you choose - it should be kept time with our breathing - so till we are consicious of our breathing - we keep repeating the mantra. All in all remember - HE IS RECEIVING EACH AND EVERY PRAYER OF OURS. Sai Ram - Be Happy JP PS: We had sent to all devotees who are on our list - calenders for 2004 - these were printed with TEN FOLD PATH TO DIVINITY. We still have some copies left - we can send these free - but postage has to be paid be the devotee requesting. You may mail us for more information. Sai Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 OM SAI RAM In my view ; we should left it to SWAMI only. HE know the plans HE has for the 'others' to know about HIS presence. As HIS true devotees, we should only concentrate on the teachings and guidelines HE has for us so that we can claim " your life is my message" SAI RAM R K MODIPRASHANTI TEXTILE CORPORATION43-D,BHILWARA TEXTILE MARKETP.O.-BHILWARA-INDIA-311001PHONE- +91 1482 246375FAX - +91 1482 230411MOBILE- + 91 98290 45135 - Maya saibabanews Saturday, March 06, 2004 3:17 PM [saibabanews] Re: News from Brindavan (Whitefield), Mar 4, 2004 Sai RamWhat are we supposed to expect in these last 18th years of Bhagavan's life? Is He ever going to indroduce Himself to the US?Except the few devotees i knowaround here, nobody also is aware of Him. others never heard the word Avatar and most of them dont want to know. What is our job at this point? can we tell or shall we keep the silence on. Please post this note so the sai devotees can share their opinions with me. thank you.Sai Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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