Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Experiences like going out of the body, working while your consciousness is 6 inches or so above the crown charka, feeling other peoples thoughts, emotions, pain and sufferings, being a witness to matter dissolving into light, seeing oneself dissolve into light and going invisable, levitation, seeing colors of light rays, auras etc, being completely detached from ones body while acutely aware of being in the body at the same time. These are a few of the experiences I have experienced while meditating or being in a still peace. My understanding is to not go off into any of these experiences ( having curiosity etc.) or make them important in any way because it will deter you from the path. To continue keeping on keeping on meditating and doing your spiritual practices. At different times of my life, I have taken time off to feel more grounded and deal with the emotions etc. that would surface from spiritual practices or life in general. Recently, I have cried daily for myself and the entire planet for approximately a year and during that time it was too much for me to do many spiritual practices. Little by little I begin back into my practices with a lot of gentleness and compassion in great awe for the mystery of it all. I have enjoyed reading this post. It is a topic that isnt discussed very often. I hope this has been of some service. Thank you for sharing. In Loves Service malati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 OM NAMAH SIVAYA thank you for this post. i think you are so right we certainly don't live in a box. and hopefully we will be able apply the concentration and awareness gained thru our spiritual practices to other areas in our life, improving our productivity, efficiency, and taking every opportunity to help lift up others when possible. because in the big picture, it seems that anyOne's individual spiritual progress is really incomplete. we must need to bring everyone else along with or why would The Guru keep returning? it's really One Soul evolving, and like the saying a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. JAI MA Ammachi, sanatani urban <sanatani wrote: > > Namah Shivaya Ananthashree, > > I have also been experiencing these same symptoms, including excruciating pain, lack of ability to find words, seeing flashing colored lights, seeing the floor and carpet dissolve as if not solid, crying at the pain of strangers, headaches, nausea and more. All of which came after a two month period of 6 hour a day prayers and homas, and an extreme longing for Amma. I do not necessarily attribute the symptoms directly to the sadhana, but i have done healing work on others for many years, and I have been aware that the purification process can carry with it a host of "symptoms" which will seem weird and bizarre, only because of our lack of understanding of the process. There are also times when I believe we are taking on (maybe without our conscious knowledge) the pain of others, and the pain of this planet, who is under so much stress. We do not live in a box, so we can not think like we live in a box, or measure experiences as if we lived in a box. > > We are existing here on so many levels and dimensions, yet we normally have awareness of only one level; the physical. There are so many other levels, each more subtle than the last. Yet, although we are ignorant of the existence of these other levels within us, they are still there, and they always interacting, and trying to integrate. As we awaken, these "other levels and dimensions" of our existence will become more apparent to us as the whole begins to integrate with all of it's parts. Pain is as much a part of the natural process as pleasure. > > May we all reach Her lotus Feet, and Dissolve into Her Cosmic Heart! > > Striving to Dissolve into Her Love, > Sanatani > > Ananthasree <ananthasree wrote: > Namah Shivayah, > > I just had to comment on this subject, because it really struck a chord with what I am > going through right now. I have been having a whole host of physical and spiritual > "symptoms" (for lack of a better word) lately and have also found myself having a hard > time staying in my body/not going into a depersonalized state. All of this is not a result of > meditation or practices (which I must admit I have fallen short on lately!)....it is all > spontaneous. I think it is difficult to speculate on WHAT this is whether it is ourselves or > someone else going through it. At this point, I am still rendered confused...but I am also > understanding it to be Amma's will that I go through this process for reasons I am > obviously unaware of yet! > > I am keeping a detailed journal of these experiences. The last half dozen or so posts on > my website deal with this. It's at http://www.ammaschildren.com under the "Amma > Journal". If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, feel free to contact me. I think it can help > to connect with others who are going through the same thing since it is almost impossible > to explain to someone who is not going through it. > > Much love to all of my brothers and sisters on this list! I know I haven't posted in awhile, > and it is due precisely to this spiritual upheaval I am going through. > > In Her Service, > > Ananthasree > Ammachi, "joannapollner" <joannapollner@> wrote: > > > > I must add two cents here , I do believe that Mental balance is extremely important in > any > > practice ! , meditation yoga especially require mental stability. Anything off the norm > could > > be potentially hazardous to such individual and there is huge difference between actual > > experience of rising kundalini and just mental imaginings . Someone mentioned in a > post > > of another person complaining of some discomfort around Mahatmas because of rising > > kundalini. I am not expert in it , however I find it very unlikely that around Amma > anyone > > could find such discomfort caused by Mahatma such as Amma , I doubt Amma Herself > > would cause such discomfort to the individual ( it could be just persons mental state > that > > is causing such feeling ) . Amma did mention that if in any practice a person feels > > uncomforted they should stop and give themselves a brake. Question was posed ,about > > meditation on third eye and how that individual actually experienced a pain sensation in > > the third eye region. Amma clearly stated " to stop , giving oneself a brake" . Like with > > everything else in life a common sense discrimination i a key and a well balanced > > approach. . > > > > Namaste, Joanna > > > > > > Thanks for everyone's responses. I was mainly curious if anyone had > > > heard of having so much trouble with meditation. Amma gives us such > > > clear direction on the IAM and I know She will not ever fail us. > > > This is why it is so important to follow the instructions of our > > > guru. She knows what is best always for each of us. I have heard of > > > overmeditating and mental imbalances possibly being aggravated or > > > coming up. > > > > > > We have referred this person to the experts-Amma and/or a Swami of > > > Amma's since like everyone else, I can't even begin to be close to > > > helping her with what is going on. I am just a worm in the mud, > > > really. > > > > > > thanks, > > > adriane > > > > > > > > > > > > Ammachi, "temba spirits" <tembaspirits@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > greetings beautiful brothers and sisters.AMMAs sun has learned > > > that he is > > > > not qualified to discuss anyone elses experience.AMMAs sun barely > > > has > > > > clarity on his own experiences let alone someone elses. > > > > > > > > > > > > we all have a personal relationship with AMMA ,yet there is one > > > UNIVERSAL > > > > TRUTH that bonds us all together.what works for one of HER > > > children may not > > > > work for another.that is not because of AMMA ,that is because of > > > the > > > > disposition of our personallitys.try not to COMPARE.just keep > > > moving forward > > > > with a sincere effort to grow and to serve. > > > > > > > > we should try not to get distracted .AMMA says for us to move with > > > > shradda(faith and alertness).if anything we should learn to pray > > > for people > > > > and not speculate thier experiences. > > > > > > > > its all a test of our FAITH.AMMA wants us to expand.SHE wants us > > > to grow.it > > > > is up to us to ACCEPT THIS WITH ALL OF OUR HEARTS. love ,AMMAs sun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Mahamuni" <mahamuni@> > > > > >Ammachi > > > > ><Ammachi> > > > > >Re: Unbalanced from Spiritual Practices? > > > > >Sat, 22 Apr 2006 21:18:24 -0700 > > > > > > > > > >Hi Adraine, > > > > > > > > > >1. Definitely don't let what another person says about her > > > experiences, > > > > >influence your dedication to your own practice or cause you any > > > fear. You > > > > >just practice exactly as you were instructed. > > > > > > > > > >2. Not judging anything in either direction, just because > > > someone states > > > > >something does not necessarily make it true. > > > > > > > > > >3. The instructions of IAM are definitely not to meditate > > > anywhere near 6 > > > > >hrs a day. They are much more limiting than this. If someone > > > has laid the > > > > >ground work, then someone can do it longer and more often, but > > > they are > > > > >directed to discuss this with the more experienced instructors. > > > > > > > > > >4. In truth, you don't know what other practices she is doing, > > > and what > > > > >traumas she may have experienced in her life, her actual state of > > > mental > > > > >health, etc. Your direction about guiding her to talk to one of > > > the swamis > > > > >or Amma was the best suggestion. She doesn't need to wait for > > > tour either > > > > >to try to do so. > > > > > > > > > >5. Many people claim to have this or that Kundalini experience > > > (s), and > > > > >that they can't stay "grounded", etc. In my personal experience, > > > and from > > > > >listening carefully to how Amma has commented about various > > > people going > > > > >through this or that experience near Her, I would say that most > > > of this is > > > > >just emotional outburst of one type or another, not actual > > > kundalini > > > > >effects. The problem is that too many people have read too many > > > books on > > > > >the subject or been around other groups where people are > > > exhibiting all > > > > >sorts of things (some of which may be legitimate and some not), > > > so they > > > > >feel they have to do this too to be like the rest of the group. > > > > > > > > > >I hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > >Jai Maa! > > > > > > > > > >Surya > > > > > - > > > > > Adriane > > > > > Ammachi > > > > > Saturday, April 22, 2006 9:04 PM > > > > > Unbalanced from Spiritual Practices? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We recently had a devotee attend a Satsang-an fellow devotee, > > > who > > > > > was confused and complaining that her "kundalini" was causing > > > her to > > > > > be unbalanced. She explained that she is "out of her body" > > > most of > > > > > the time-so much so that she had to stop her spiritual > > > practices. > > > > > She further stated she has avoided attending Satsang or Amma > > > > > activities because she is afraid (but then later said "not > > > afraid") > > > > > of being overstimulated and somewhat out of touch to reality > > > if she > > > > > continues to meditate. We were puzzled since we trust that > > > > > everything Amma has told us to do with meditation and IAM. > > > Those of > > > > > us practicing IAM had no idea what she was talking about. > > > > > > > > > > She mentioned she meditates 6 hrs or more a day then cut back. > > > She > > > > > said she took a break to become more grounded. She did IAM but > > > > > wasn't sure about continuing. It didn't sound like she > > > followed some > > > > > of the rules on IAM. > > > > > > > > > > Being unclear of everything she meant, we suggested she talk > > > to one > > > > > of the Swamis while on tour or with Amma, Herself. > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone heard of someone have these problems-not being able > > > to be > > > > > around Amma or Satsang because they have so much trouble > > > > > being "grounded"? We truly knew little to say to this. Any > > > thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mata amritanandamayi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------- ------ > > > ------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > b.. > > > > > Ammachi > > > > > > > > > > c.. 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Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 wow, i think this is such a deep statement! On 4/24/06, ecjensen_us <ecjensen_us wrote: > > OM NAMAH SIVAYA > > thank you for this post. i think you are so right we certainly don't > live in a box. and hopefully we will be able apply the concentration > and awareness gained thru our spiritual practices to other areas in > our life, improving our productivity, efficiency, and taking every > opportunity to help lift up others when possible. because in the big > picture, it seems that anyOne's individual spiritual progress is > really incomplete. we must need to bring everyone else along with or > why would The Guru keep returning? it's really One Soul evolving, > and like the saying a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. > > JAI MA > -- be LOVE, egyirba (berijoy) ~\~\~\~\~\~\~\~\~\~\~\~\~\~\~\~\~\ "all you need is love love...love is all you need." ~ the beatles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 thank you for some wise advice; i would like to add that perhaps adding to whatever spiritual practices you are doing a simple inquiry "who am i?" and when various experiences arise "who is it that is having this amazing or scary experience?" might help in grounding and take one closer to the goal of discovering "who am I?" "koham?" is the inquiry in sanskrit. Amma Bless, amarnath Ammachi, DCarlin111 wrote: > > Experiences like going out of the body, working while your consciousness is 6 > inches or so above the crown charka, feeling other peoples thoughts, > emotions, pain and sufferings, being a witness to matter dissolving into light, seeing > oneself dissolve into light and going invisable, levitation, seeing colors of > light rays, auras etc, being completely detached from ones body while acutely > aware of being in the body at the same time. These are a few of the > experiences I have experienced while meditating or being in a still peace. > > My understanding is to not go off into any of these experiences ( having > curiosity etc.) or make them important in any way because it will deter you from > the path. To continue keeping on keeping on meditating and doing your spiritual > practices. > > At different times of my life, I have taken time off to feel more grounded > and deal with the emotions etc. that would surface from spiritual practices or > life in general. Recently, I have cried daily for myself and the entire planet > for approximately a year and during that time it was too much for me to do > many spiritual practices. Little by little I begin back into my practices with a > lot of gentleness and compassion in great awe for the mystery of it all. > > I have enjoyed reading this post. It is a topic that isnt discussed very > often. I hope this has been of some service. Thank you for sharing. > In Loves Service > malati > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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