Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Prasadini wrote: ....I was raised as a liberal protestant, so we didn't have saints, and the suffering or hardship aspects of spirituality were never discussed. The crucifix did not exist - just an empty cross to focus on the living Christ, not the crucifixion. The suffering of Christ was not emphasized... Dear Prasadini ~ I'm not sure if you or the others are aware of my interest in shamanism and of my practice, which has very much slid, along with many other things. The last time I went to a Christian church was when I was staying with my mother and stepfather (I was trying to please them). There was a cross, and I think there was a Christ on the cross. As the minister was blathering about converting the entire Treasure Valley (quite a large area), I began to focus on the cross. This awareness began to grow within me about Christ being a shaman. This may seem sacrilegious to some, to me it was an incredible revelation. The commonalities were without question: the shaman undergoes suffering on behalf of the "community;" the shaman climbs a tree, a vine or "creeper" to connect with the Upper World; the shaman dies, and in many cultures the shaman makes a three day journey to the Under World (not like hell at all in indigineaous cultures); and then the shaman comes back from his journey, alive, reborn, with gifts of healing for his "community." I hope this doesn't offend anyone. Shamanism is an ancient tradition and has often been referred to the first "religion" (and also, of interest to me, the "beginnings of art," which has a lot to do with all those cave paintings. I was stunned to tears, and I will never forget this experience. In one way, I felt it was Jesus revealing himself to me in a context that I understood and was very familiar with. The time on the cross is only a part of the process, but all the processes are important. The rebirth, or coming back from death into life, is a demonstration to all that death is not the end, that we survive and go on and continue to evolve. In this context, the suffering made sense to me, because it is part of the overall process. Blessings and thanks for the opportunity to share ~ Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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