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After reading this, I don't see how anyone can have the opinion or

simply "guess" that the other earlier swami's "did it all in a past

life".

 

On the Road to Freedom: A Pilgrimage in India

By Neal Rosner (Swami P)

Pages 183-4

 

One day I was having a severe migraine headache. I was already weak,

and the severity of the pain completely incapacitated me. I could not

even walk without holding a wall for support. I had taken a powerful

drug to lessen the pain, but this had the effect of increasing the

weakness and causing thirst. In that state, I asked one of the

residents for a glass of water to drink. He looked at me as if I had

asked for a seven-course meal and walked away. I waited for half an

hour, but no water was forthcoming. I then crawled and somehow got it

myself. Unfortunately, my hand was shaking and I spilled some of the

water on the floor. At that time, another of the residents came into

the hut. I asked him for a cloth to wipe up the water. He went out

and came back with a dirty cloth and threw it in my face with a look of

irritation. I felt a bit pained at heart and went to lay down behind

the temple. Ammachi came over to me and asked what was the matter. I

told her what had happened. She said, "You must look upon them as

children. What ever a child may do, one should not feel angry or

hurt, knowing they are ignorant." She then kept quiet and silently sat

with me for some time.

 

On another occasion, I purchased some pancakes for Mother, thinking

that she might eat them in the morning after the darshan was over. The

shop was only open at night, I got them and put them in a container. I

felt very sleepy, however, so I asked one of the people who would be

awake at that hour to give them to Mother when she came.

 

"Mother will not eat what you have brought. Don't you know that she

doesn't like pancakes? If you want, you can give them to her

yourself." I had seen her eat pancakes a number of times, and knew

what was said was untrue. I muttered the Name of God to myself and

kept quiet.

 

It soon became second nature not to mind the way I was treated by

others. In fact, I even started to take a kind of delight in being

abused. I would note clearly whether or not my mind was affected by

the words and try to remain as a witness within, unchanging and calm.

Ratnamji had once told me, "As a devotee, others may praise you and put

you on a pedastal. You may think that you are unaffected by their

praise and even say that it is God in their form who is praising. But

you will know if you are really unaffected by praises only when you

receive the opposite, blame. If one cares not for pain, pleasure also

cannot hold one bound. One should always test onself and be sure that

one is not fooling oneself thinking that pleasant things do not affect

one. Only if you are indifferent to the painful side of life and take

it as God's or Guru's Sweet will, will you not be sidetracked by the

pleasant side of things."

 

 

Ammachi, "manoj_menon" <ammademon wrote:

>

> Ammachi, "Tom" <tomgull@> wrote:

> > "According to his autobio", Nealu was mistreated by

> > some of the early ashramites.

> >

> > tom

>

> Hi Tom,

>

> Where in the volumes do you see it written that this happened?

>

> It's been sometime since I re-read them and can't recollect having any

> impression of Nealu Swami being mistreated. do you have page #'s or

> incidents from the book handy? Thanks.

>

> Jai Ma!

>

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It is these sorts of experiences, the rough and tumble of interpersonal

egos, that seem to define that "razor's edge" quality to the path of the

spiritual seeker.

 

But to be honest, I recall reading those passages previously and intepreting

them then as evidence of the cultural frontiers separating a "Western"

seeker in an "Indian" or "Keralan" or whatever the corresponding term is.

 

On a related note, I keep wondering if the perception of reverie you are

ascribing to certain devotees who treat Dayamrita with a degree of respect

you do not share as also a derivation of that ethnological distance (e.g.

:"cultural frontier.").

 

And I am also remembering a blessed experience Ammachi bestowed upon me

towards the end of Her 1998 San Ramon programs. Swami Ramakrishnananda was

playing bhagans, singing "Hari Bol" actually, and suddenly his physical body

disappeared. In its place stood the glowing form of Lord Rama. And then

almost just as quickly, the vision shifted, and grew to the ceiling, and

there stood the magnificent splendor of Lord Krishna. It was mindblowing.

It was shocking. I can barely remember it, as He was so aglow and my

nervous system is so impure. But it was certainly an inspirational

hallucination, one of a series of cosmic events around Mother that defy easy

definition or narration.

 

But strangely, more than spiritual heights, the vision worked on the mundane

level. I spent a good portion of the next several years looking intently

into Swamijii's face, sometimes peeking, sometimes staring, sometimes

embarrassed, always wondering wondering wondering: When will I see Krishna

again? When? When?? It became an obsession, one that did not ease until I

went to speak to Mother directly about it.

 

(She laughed, ran a finger along the bone of my cheek, and said not to be

attached, the Darshans were meant to be inspirational, not held onto like a

fixation. And She told me to "become like a flute and Krishna will come

running." Dayamrita actually was translating for me, and I couldn't

understand the word "flute." I thought he was saying "fool," and had to ask

him to repeat himself several times before comprehension. Not that I have

any idea how to 'become like a flute,' although acting the fool is all to

easy, perhaps why I was so incredulous about what at first I heard him

saying.)

 

That anecdote is sort of an indirect suggestion, for who know in what ways

Mother/God may have used/worked through Dayamrita as an instrument for

inspiration - and whether the revered status he is accorded by some could be

an extension of that role.

 

By the way, the New York satsang is holding a special concert on Friday

night, in Flushing, and word went out recently that Dayamrita's schedule now

permits him to attend. Why don't you take the train up from D.C., Tom, and

join us?

 

It's so easy to hurl pejoratives in the sterile distance of this cyber

sphere. But perhaps all your manifestations of will and intent and what

strike me as hurt feelings and insecurity and sibiling rivalry and siddhic

competition could take on a gentler flavor in the sacred presence of Maha

Ganapati and with the musical invocations to Mata Saraswati. I'm sure if

someone has slighted you in some way that speaking directly to him rather

than, well, I'll call it like I see it... gossiping... could be much more

productive.

 

And did I just hear right that Mother must be sending y'all in D.C. some

special blessings, especially after last year's ups and downs, by spending

Guru Purnima there??

 

Warmly,

Prashanti

 

 

 

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But the point of Sw. Paramatmanandaji (Nealu) sharing this was to show that

these things are the perfect opportunity for real spiritual growth and actually

give a great indication where one is truly at spiritually. If we come to

God/Guru with the desire to grow spiritually, of course things will happen to us

that we might term negative at first or abusive. Even if this is actually true,

it is a great blessing from Guru/Goddess Herself.

 

Most of us Westerners have this wrongful preconception that once we awake to the

Spiritual Path, it is all comfort and roses after that point. We mostly get

this from the books on Indian spirituality that have been published in the

country for the last 100 yrs or so. These really only typically depict one

small side/part/flavor of Indian Spiritual Traditions and what happens in Them.

The Truth is generally far from this. Just look at the lives of any Saint,

especially Amma, and we can see how much hardship surfaces and must be endured

and overcome.

 

Jai Maa!

 

Surya

-

Tom

Ammachi

Wednesday, April 05, 2006 11:36 AM

Nealu Mistreatment Quoted

 

 

After reading this, I don't see how anyone can have the opinion or

simply "guess" that the other earlier swami's "did it all in a past

life".

 

On the Road to Freedom: A Pilgrimage in India

By Neal Rosner (Swami P)

Pages 183-4

 

One day I was having a severe migraine headache. I was already weak,

and the severity of the pain completely incapacitated me. I could not

even walk without holding a wall for support. I had taken a powerful

drug to lessen the pain, but this had the effect of increasing the

weakness and causing thirst. In that state, I asked one of the

residents for a glass of water to drink. He looked at me as if I had

asked for a seven-course meal and walked away. I waited for half an

hour, but no water was forthcoming. I then crawled and somehow got it

myself. Unfortunately, my hand was shaking and I spilled some of the

water on the floor. At that time, another of the residents came into

the hut. I asked him for a cloth to wipe up the water. He went out

and came back with a dirty cloth and threw it in my face with a look of

irritation. I felt a bit pained at heart and went to lay down behind

the temple. Ammachi came over to me and asked what was the matter. I

told her what had happened. She said, "You must look upon them as

children. What ever a child may do, one should not feel angry or

hurt, knowing they are ignorant." She then kept quiet and silently sat

with me for some time.

 

On another occasion, I purchased some pancakes for Mother, thinking

that she might eat them in the morning after the darshan was over. The

shop was only open at night, I got them and put them in a container. I

felt very sleepy, however, so I asked one of the people who would be

awake at that hour to give them to Mother when she came.

 

"Mother will not eat what you have brought. Don't you know that she

doesn't like pancakes? If you want, you can give them to her

yourself." I had seen her eat pancakes a number of times, and knew

what was said was untrue. I muttered the Name of God to myself and

kept quiet.

 

It soon became second nature not to mind the way I was treated by

others. In fact, I even started to take a kind of delight in being

abused. I would note clearly whether or not my mind was affected by

the words and try to remain as a witness within, unchanging and calm.

Ratnamji had once told me, "As a devotee, others may praise you and put

you on a pedastal. You may think that you are unaffected by their

praise and even say that it is God in their form who is praising. But

you will know if you are really unaffected by praises only when you

receive the opposite, blame. If one cares not for pain, pleasure also

cannot hold one bound. One should always test onself and be sure that

one is not fooling oneself thinking that pleasant things do not affect

one. Only if you are indifferent to the painful side of life and take

it as God's or Guru's Sweet will, will you not be sidetracked by the

pleasant side of things."

 

 

Ammachi, "manoj_menon" <ammademon wrote:

>

> Ammachi, "Tom" <tomgull@> wrote:

> > "According to his autobio", Nealu was mistreated by

> > some of the early ashramites.

> >

> > tom

>

> Hi Tom,

>

> Where in the volumes do you see it written that this happened?

>

> It's been sometime since I re-read them and can't recollect having any

> impression of Nealu Swami being mistreated. do you have page #'s or

> incidents from the book handy? Thanks.

>

> Jai Ma!

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

 

 

 

Mata amritanandamayi

 

 

 

 

a.. Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web.

 

b..

Ammachi

 

c..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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namaste tom,

 

thanks for providing these quotes. I read "On the Road to Freedom" by

Neal Rosner sometime ago at least twice, but did not remember this and

( quite honestly ) must admit that I thought you were inaccurate. I

wanted to check out the context a little but I gave my book away just

as you gave your "awaken children" away for other devotees to read.

 

Well OK. What is my response now?

 

It seems, we remember what we want to remember or perhaps what we

find useful for our sadhana and daily life interactions with others.

So, in my case, I remember, among other things from "On the Road to

Freedom", the following:

 

Neal was about 12 years or so older than the first Indian

brahmacharis coming to Amma. Neal came to India at age 19 and studied

with Ratnamji for about 12 years. When Neal started out, he too was

somewhat undisciplined. But 12 years of preparation gave him respect

for disciple, etc. When Ratnamji left his body, Neal got very sick

and debilitated. His vedic astrology was that he would either die

soon or that he would end up serving his mother( he thought his

earthly mother in the USA ).

 

Then he met Amma. She healed him somewhat. But told him it would be

for his highest good to bear some of the pain with a chance of

enlightenment in this life; if She healed him more completely, he

would have to come back and bear even more pain in next life time.

 

So, karma is karma and it is better, in my view, to be mistreated by

my brother disciples than by some wayward strangers.

 

Amma never promised us a rose garden. Just enlightenement, if we work

hard at our sadhana and especially unselfishness. The speed depends

on our strength and willingness to surrender and bear our karma

cheerfully.

 

That is why, perhaps the best prayer for ourselves is to ask God for

STRENGHT, willingness to surrender and to bear our karma cheerfully.

 

Depending on our KARMA, it may not be so easy. I know myself ~

thinking ~ well maybe if I do a little more seva, etc ~ some of my

karma will be alleviated ~ well we never know ~ do we?

 

So, whatever seva I do, I try my best to do it selflessly and when it

becomes a chore or an obligation( to others or my concepts ), I

rething, refeel, check in with the silence of my heart as best I can.

 

AND SOMETIMES I JUST WALK AWAY FROM IT AND REST.

 

At amritapuri ashram, some praised my seva( sweeping sand ), others

made it impossible( told me it was all wrong; wrong time; etc ). I

just walked away. Doing nothing, I noticed there was a lot( according

to western standards ) of trash laying around here and there. I just

decided that would be my seva for the time being and started picking

things up. A few days later, I noticed some young brahmacharies

picking stuff up also. Amma uses us in many ways. For me, best way to

follow is from the heart; that is were Amma gives us our marching

orders; but only if we want.

 

I'm not saying it's easy for me; I have so much in my head( physics,

math, logic, concepts, spiritual info stuff, etc, etc ). But, I try

and it seems to work out the best when I do.

 

Staying away from the heart, thinking you need to get enlightenment

first, is a poor choice, in my view.

 

Well anyway, let me end this lengthy reply( sorry ) with the

following interesting note from the same book "On the Road to

Freedom" by Neal( now Swami Paramatananda ).

 

Since Neal was older and had more discipline and organizational

skills, he thought it would help if he imparted some of this to his

younger brothers at the ahsram. Well, Amma's comment to Neal

was "Leave my children alone."

 

I saw Swami Paramatananda( Neal ) at amritapuru ashram after Amma's

50th birthday. He was simply glowing and this was a rare occasion to

see him. I missed my chance to prostrate at his feet no doubt due to

my timidity. Hopefully I received his blessings anyway since he must

have felt what was in my heart ~ gratitude for a life well lived ~ a

beautiful example for all of us.

 

Amma's Blessings,

amarnath

 

 

Ammachi, "Tom" <tomgull wrote:

> ......

> It soon became second nature not to mind the way I was treated by

> others. In fact, I even started to take a kind of delight in being

> abused. I would note clearly whether or not my mind was affected

by > the words and try to remain as a witness within, unchanging and

calm. > Ratnamji had once told me, "As a devotee, others may praise

you and put

> you on a pedastal. You may think that you are unaffected by their

> praise and even say that it is God in their form who is praising.

But

> you will know if you are really unaffected by praises only when you

> receive the opposite, blame. If one cares not for pain, pleasure

also

> cannot hold one bound. One should always test onself and be sure

that

> one is not fooling oneself thinking that pleasant things do not

affect

> one. Only if you are indifferent to the painful side of life and

take

> it as God's or Guru's Sweet will, will you not be sidetracked by

the

> pleasant side of things."

>

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excellent ! very well stated ! and gently ! thank you !

amma's blessings,amarnath

 

Ammachi, "Rachel Barrett Gallop"

<hipstorian wrote:

>

> It is these sorts of experiences, the rough and tumble of

interpersonal

> egos, that seem to define that "razor's edge" quality to the path

of the

> spiritual seeker.

>

> But to be honest, I recall reading those passages previously and

intepreting

> them then as evidence of the cultural frontiers separating

a "Western"

> seeker in an "Indian" or "Keralan" or whatever the corresponding

term is.

>

> On a related note, I keep wondering if the perception of reverie

you are

> ascribing to certain devotees who treat Dayamrita with a degree of

respect

> you do not share as also a derivation of that ethnological distance

(e.g.

> :"cultural frontier.").

>

> And I am also remembering a blessed experience Ammachi bestowed

upon me

> towards the end of Her 1998 San Ramon programs. Swami

Ramakrishnananda was

> playing bhagans, singing "Hari Bol" actually, and suddenly his

physical body

> disappeared. In its place stood the glowing form of Lord Rama.

And then

> almost just as quickly, the vision shifted, and grew to the

ceiling, and

> there stood the magnificent splendor of Lord Krishna. It was

mindblowing.

> It was shocking. I can barely remember it, as He was so aglow and

my

> nervous system is so impure. But it was certainly an inspirational

> hallucination, one of a series of cosmic events around Mother that

defy easy

> definition or narration.

>

> But strangely, more than spiritual heights, the vision worked on

the mundane

> level. I spent a good portion of the next several years looking

intently

> into Swamijii's face, sometimes peeking, sometimes staring,

sometimes

> embarrassed, always wondering wondering wondering: When will I see

Krishna

> again? When? When?? It became an obsession, one that did not

ease until I

> went to speak to Mother directly about it.

>

> (She laughed, ran a finger along the bone of my cheek, and said not

to be

> attached, the Darshans were meant to be inspirational, not held

onto like a

> fixation. And She told me to "become like a flute and Krishna will

come

> running." Dayamrita actually was translating for me, and I couldn't

> understand the word "flute." I thought he was saying "fool," and

had to ask

> him to repeat himself several times before comprehension. Not that

I have

> any idea how to 'become like a flute,' although acting the fool is

all to

> easy, perhaps why I was so incredulous about what at first I heard

him

> saying.)

>

> That anecdote is sort of an indirect suggestion, for who know in

what ways

> Mother/God may have used/worked through Dayamrita as an instrument

for

> inspiration - and whether the revered status he is accorded by some

could be

> an extension of that role.

>

> By the way, the New York satsang is holding a special concert on

Friday

> night, in Flushing, and word went out recently that Dayamrita's

schedule now

> permits him to attend. Why don't you take the train up from D.C.,

Tom, and

> join us?

>

> It's so easy to hurl pejoratives in the sterile distance of this

cyber

> sphere. But perhaps all your manifestations of will and intent and

what

> strike me as hurt feelings and insecurity and sibiling rivalry and

siddhic

> competition could take on a gentler flavor in the sacred presence

of Maha

> Ganapati and with the musical invocations to Mata Saraswati. I'm

sure if

> someone has slighted you in some way that speaking directly to him

rather

> than, well, I'll call it like I see it... gossiping... could be

much more

> productive.

>

> And did I just hear right that Mother must be sending y'all in D.C.

some

> special blessings, especially after last year's ups and downs, by

spending

> Guru Purnima there??

>

> Warmly,

> Prashanti

>

>

>

>

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Ammachi, "Rachel Barrett Gallop"

<hipstorian wrote:

>

> But strangely, more than spiritual heights, the vision worked on

> the mundane level. I spent a good portion of the next several

> years looking intently into Swamijii's face, sometimes peeking,

> sometimes staring, sometimes embarrassed, always wondering

> wondering wondering: When will I see Krishna again? When?

> Warmly,

> Prashanti

 

Terrific. Thanks for sharing your vision.

 

Just one note: I do not believe that the vision worked on the

mundane level. It probably worked much deeper than you ascribed to

it.

 

Amma's response was also terrific. If I may paraphrase, She was

basically saying "LET GO" to being greedy for darshans too and "just

BE"!

 

Jai Ma!

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Prashanti-Ma! Thank you for the Saraswati Bhava darshan! Quite eloquent. BTW, in

regards to Ramakrishna Swami, I too have had some rather profound experiences

during his bhajans and satsangs. He has (I percieve) a gentle humilty and

presence that draws one who is paying attention into the depths of his devotion

and surrender. He is quite unique among the orange ones. Actually, they all seem

to have their charms, don't they? I especially like Purnamritananda (Jedi

Swami). I hope he comes back to the US tour.

 

love Prajna

 

Rachel Barrett Gallop <hipstorian wrote:

It is these sorts of experiences, the rough and tumble of interpersonal

egos, that seem to define that "razor's edge" quality to the path of the

spiritual seeker.

 

But to be honest, I recall reading those passages previously and intepreting

them then as evidence of the cultural frontiers separating a "Western"

seeker in an "Indian" or "Keralan" or whatever the corresponding term is.

 

On a related note, I keep wondering if the perception of reverie you are

ascribing to certain devotees who treat Dayamrita with a degree of respect

you do not share as also a derivation of that ethnological distance (e.g.

:"cultural frontier.").

 

And I am also remembering a blessed experience Ammachi bestowed upon me

towards the end of Her 1998 San Ramon programs. Swami Ramakrishnananda was

playing bhagans, singing "Hari Bol" actually, and suddenly his physical body

disappeared. In its place stood the glowing form of Lord Rama. And then

almost just as quickly, the vision shifted, and grew to the ceiling, and

there stood the magnificent splendor of Lord Krishna. It was mindblowing.

It was shocking. I can barely remember it, as He was so aglow and my

nervous system is so impure. But it was certainly an inspirational

hallucination, one of a series of cosmic events around Mother that defy easy

definition or narration.

 

But strangely, more than spiritual heights, the vision worked on the mundane

level. I spent a good portion of the next several years looking intently

into Swamijii's face, sometimes peeking, sometimes staring, sometimes

embarrassed, always wondering wondering wondering: When will I see Krishna

again? When? When?? It became an obsession, one that did not ease until I

went to speak to Mother directly about it.

 

(She laughed, ran a finger along the bone of my cheek, and said not to be

attached, the Darshans were meant to be inspirational, not held onto like a

fixation. And She told me to "become like a flute and Krishna will come

running." Dayamrita actually was translating for me, and I couldn't

understand the word "flute." I thought he was saying "fool," and had to ask

him to repeat himself several times before comprehension. Not that I have

any idea how to 'become like a flute,' although acting the fool is all to

easy, perhaps why I was so incredulous about what at first I heard him

saying.)

 

That anecdote is sort of an indirect suggestion, for who know in what ways

Mother/God may have used/worked through Dayamrita as an instrument for

inspiration - and whether the revered status he is accorded by some could be

an extension of that role.

 

By the way, the New York satsang is holding a special concert on Friday

night, in Flushing, and word went out recently that Dayamrita's schedule now

permits him to attend. Why don't you take the train up from D.C., Tom, and

join us?

 

It's so easy to hurl pejoratives in the sterile distance of this cyber

sphere. But perhaps all your manifestations of will and intent and what

strike me as hurt feelings and insecurity and sibiling rivalry and siddhic

competition could take on a gentler flavor in the sacred presence of Maha

Ganapati and with the musical invocations to Mata Saraswati. I'm sure if

someone has slighted you in some way that speaking directly to him rather

than, well, I'll call it like I see it... gossiping... could be much more

productive.

 

And did I just hear right that Mother must be sending y'all in D.C. some

special blessings, especially after last year's ups and downs, by spending

Guru Purnima there??

 

Warmly,

Prashanti

 

 

 

 

 

 

Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web.

 

Ammachi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Namah Shivaya Surya,

This is very true. In the spiritual organization with which I was first

associated there would be talks about how people's lives were finally

working once they met the Guru and were on the spiritual path. People

got great jobs, had great relationships, and life was good. Later we

learned about the tests, the stones in the path, the pitfalls - the

proverbial razor's edge.It's not just about fame and blame, it's about

the difficulties of spiritual life. Experiencing it all with equal

vision. Mother says She puts us up against the wall (not Her words)

until we see the futility, and surrender. I wanted to learn to meditate

so I could relax. I was not prepared to be in the teeth of the

crocodile. Not that I would change it, but it is not all comfort and

roses - indeed! It's more like endless final exams! Long ago I realized

that I'd best emulate Mother as much as possible, or it would be an even

bumpier ride. Not that I'm doing a great job, but it's what I recommend.

It is a long way from where this child is to Mother's state. Yikes!

Jai Ma!

Prasadini

 

Mahamuni wrote:

> But the point of Sw. Paramatmanandaji (Nealu) sharing this was to show

> that these things are the perfect opportunity for real spiritual

> growth and actually give a great indication where one is truly at

> spiritually. If we come to God/Guru with the desire to grow

> spiritually, of course things will happen to us that we might term

> negative at first or abusive. Even if this is actually true, it is a

> great blessing from Guru/Goddess Herself.

>

> Most of us Westerners have this wrongful preconception that once we

> awake to the Spiritual Path, it is all comfort and roses after that

> point. We mostly get this from the books on Indian spirituality that

> have been published in the country for the last 100 yrs or so. These

> really only typically depict one small side/part/flavor of Indian

> Spiritual Traditions and what happens in Them. The Truth is generally

> far from this. Just look at the lives of any Saint, especially Amma,

> and we can see how much hardship surfaces and must be endured and

> overcome.

>

> Jai Maa!

>

> Surya

> -

> Tom

> Ammachi

> Wednesday, April 05, 2006 11:36 AM

> Nealu Mistreatment Quoted

>

>

> After reading this, I don't see how anyone can have the opinion or

> simply "guess" that the other earlier swami's "did it all in a past

> life".

>

> On the Road to Freedom: A Pilgrimage in India

> By Neal Rosner (Swami P)

> Pages 183-4

>

> One day I was having a severe migraine headache. I was already weak,

> and the severity of the pain completely incapacitated me. I could not

> even walk without holding a wall for support. I had taken a powerful

> drug to lessen the pain, but this had the effect of increasing the

> weakness and causing thirst. In that state, I asked one of the

> residents for a glass of water to drink. He looked at me as if I had

> asked for a seven-course meal and walked away. I waited for half an

> hour, but no water was forthcoming. I then crawled and somehow got it

> myself. Unfortunately, my hand was shaking and I spilled some of the

> water on the floor. At that time, another of the residents came into

> the hut. I asked him for a cloth to wipe up the water. He went out

> and came back with a dirty cloth and threw it in my face with a look of

> irritation. I felt a bit pained at heart and went to lay down behind

> the temple. Ammachi came over to me and asked what was the matter. I

> told her what had happened. She said, "You must look upon them as

> children. What ever a child may do, one should not feel angry or

> hurt, knowing they are ignorant." She then kept quiet and silently sat

> with me for some time.

>

> On another occasion, I purchased some pancakes for Mother, thinking

> that she might eat them in the morning after the darshan was over. The

> shop was only open at night, I got them and put them in a container. I

> felt very sleepy, however, so I asked one of the people who would be

> awake at that hour to give them to Mother when she came.

>

> "Mother will not eat what you have brought. Don't you know that she

> doesn't like pancakes? If you want, you can give them to her

> yourself." I had seen her eat pancakes a number of times, and knew

> what was said was untrue. I muttered the Name of God to myself and

> kept quiet.

>

> It soon became second nature not to mind the way I was treated by

> others. In fact, I even started to take a kind of delight in being

> abused. I would note clearly whether or not my mind was affected by

> the words and try to remain as a witness within, unchanging and calm.

> Ratnamji had once told me, "As a devotee, others may praise you and put

> you on a pedastal. You may think that you are unaffected by their

> praise and even say that it is God in their form who is praising. But

> you will know if you are really unaffected by praises only when you

> receive the opposite, blame. If one cares not for pain, pleasure also

> cannot hold one bound. One should always test onself and be sure that

> one is not fooling oneself thinking that pleasant things do not affect

> one. Only if you are indifferent to the painful side of life and take

> it as God's or Guru's Sweet will, will you not be sidetracked by the

> pleasant side of things."

>

>

> Ammachi, "manoj_menon" <ammademon wrote:

> >

> > Ammachi, "Tom" <tomgull@> wrote:

> > > "According to his autobio", Nealu was mistreated by

> > > some of the early ashramites.

> > >

> > > tom

> >

> > Hi Tom,

> >

> > Where in the volumes do you see it written that this happened?

> >

> > It's been sometime since I re-read them and can't recollect having any

> > impression of Nealu Swami being mistreated. do you have page #'s or

> > incidents from the book handy? Thanks.

> >

> > Jai Ma!

> >

Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

>

>

>

> Mata amritanandamayi

>

>

>

>

>

> a.. Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web.

>

> b..

> Ammachi

>

> c.. Terms of

> Service.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

>

>

> ------

>

>

> * Visit your group "Ammachi

> <Ammachi>" on the web.

>

> *

> Ammachi

> <Ammachi?subject=Un>

>

> * Terms of

> Service <>.

>

>

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"By the way, the New York satsang is holding a special concert on Friday

night, in Flushing, and word went out recently that Dayamrita's

schedule now permits him to attend. Why don't you take the train up

from D.C., Tom, and join us?"

 

Thanks, but I already passed on his satsang a few weeks back when he

was in town here. I've officially "divorced" myself from the local

group and D's talks always bore me. My money and time are urgently

needed towards other things right now, otherwise a nice trip out of

town would be nice; I also work weekends right now.

 

tom

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