Temba, start a petition/acceptance of Amma's answer.

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I understand your point of view, but it's nothing compared to what

I've experienced and am still experiencing. The goal of my actions

is also different. If Dayamrita has been kind enough to pass along

messages to Amma from you, then use your divine influence to get him

to SINCERELY ask "what's up with this Tom guy?", as Tom seems so much

in need of Love!

 

I pray for those like Dayamrita (the decision makers/power holders

the most) because they affect the world the most. I would hope that

he experiences an awakening to his actions and corrects them.

 

If I ask Dayamrita, it won't have as much weight as a group of y'all

doing it. After all, if I'm soooo wrong and in need of so much

opening of the heart, then consider this service to Amma for a

helpless devotee. Otherwise, save the Gangaji-rhetoric for someone

who's into it.

 

Hasn't Amma said that if you're in a boat that springs a leak, that

it's not enough to pray about it, but to make the effort to plug the

boat? Dayamrita and his actions with the DC satsangs are a boat

with the leak.

 

BTW, I'll accept Amma's answer either way. Sometimes she gives

ambiguous answers, sometimes plays games. When I went for a

different mantra, the sevite (prideful) was refusing to ask Amma for

the mantra I wanted (one of many for that deity) because the actual

name of the deity wasn't in the mantra itself. At one point, she

even said "Gayatri, gayatri", because she knew that up until that

point I had been doing japa of that deity's gayatri to prepare

myself, but the sevite didn't even do that!

 

Put up or shut up, the cards are on the table, talk is cheap, ask

Amma through Dayamrita

tom

 

Ammachi, "temba spirits" <tembaspirits

wrote:

>

> greetings dear brother tom.you never responded when AMMAs sun

requested for

> us to be brothers.are you afraid my beloved brother.can you tell

this child

> that you love him as he has told you.it takes courage.AMMAs sun

loves

> you.AMMA has loved this child in this way.he has a little of HER

LOVE TO

> SHARE.will you please accept it?

>

> you are only doing what you have done all of your life.AMMA wants

you and i

> to be happy.AMMAs sun is concerned with your happiness as well.do

you want

> your brother to be happy as well.

>

> are you afraid to love and be vonurable and accept love .this

childs blood

> mother abused him and he became mad at the world.have you ever been

hurt

> like this?your brother is concerned.

>

> did it hurt your feelings when you got kicked out of the spiritual

group?

> this childs mother kicked him out at twelve.AMMAs sun knows how it

feels.

>

> fortunately AMMA taught this child how to forgive.AMMA taught this

child

> that resentments will poison him.AMMAs sun is concerned that his

brother tom

> has been poisoned by his own resentments towards his brothers and

sisters.

>

> this child shares this from his heart.no philosophy just gut level

heartfelt

> raw down to earth feeling.lets talk about something real brother

tom.you can

> call this child as well if you have the courage.#773-552-4999.

>

> you are afraid of something.you were probally hurt by someone as a

child

> like this child was.you may or may not be aware of it.AMMAs sun is

asking

> for you help.we can help each other grow ,if you have the courage

to face

> this.

>

> AMMAS LOVE IS BIGGER THEN OUR DISAGREEMENTS.we are

one.organizations may

> kick us out,BUT AMMA WILL ALWAYS ACCEPT US .this is this child

stand brother

> tom.if AMMA had of not kept believing in this child where would he

be?you

> are probally closer to the goal of liberation then I AM.

>

> one day you will finally give it all up and just cry to HER in

utter

> defeat.this day is inevitable.therefore keep doing what you are

doing for

> your day of LIBERATION is approaching.

>

>

> >"Tom" <tomgull

> >Ammachi

> >Ammachi

> > Re: bless curse/enuchs/third eye

> >Mon, 03 Apr 2006 20:19:15 -0000

> >

> >You're assuming I'm in the wrong. Please use your "passion" to

get

> >Dayamrita to inquire SINCERELY to Amma about all this to settle it

> >once and for all. Am I the only one who criticizes him openly?

I'm

> >sure he'd be glad to be rid of it.

> >

> >If I'm wrong: I have a lot to learn and he's in the clear.

> >If I'm right: He's been given the necessary information and is

> >refusing to hear it or ACT on it, affecting the lives of many

> >devotees, to his negative karma, and I've merely done the brotherly

> >thing.

> >

> >That's how I make important decisions. I want to SEE that someone

so

> >revered as Dayamrita actually serves everyone equally, rather than

> >playing worldy favorites. Is he quick to serve everyone, or is

> >everyone quick to serve him? What did Jesus say about being the

> >first to enter or the last?

> >

> >I wasn't threatening you, merely revealing information that you

> >seemed unaware of.

> >

> >If you knew my sadhana history, you would fear my thoughts. I'm

> >cautious with anyone that's done alot of sadhana for exactly the

same

> >reason. One-pointedness alone brings about great power, tapas

> >brings about great power. Ask Dayamrita about this paragraph.

> >

> >Kundalini doesn't awaken and rise without the GURU's GRACE. Many,

> >many people MEDITATE for years and never get it because they're not

> >following their guru's PRACTICAL teachings, only the

> >general/phiolosophical ones of love, compassion, etc. That doesn't

> >awaken or cause it to rise.

> >

> >DC satsang: most people, even in regular jobs or clubs, will

simply

> >leave rather than trying to correct a situation. So STATISTICALLY,

> >there are bound to be plenty of dissatisifed (under served)

devotees

> >in the DC area. All, if not most of the long-timelocals KNOW

that a

> >great many of devotees have stopped attending regular satsang. It

> >was one of the concerns of the meetings.

> >

> >Let me into your Ivory Tower so I can live like you,

> >tom

> >

> >

> >Ammachi, <mahamuni@> wrote:

> >

> > > Tom,

> > >

> > > 1. I didn't ask for your advise or instruction

> > > 2. I don't fear your curses or any consequences from you. I

> >highly

> > > doubt anyone does

> > > 3. If you are so evolved, why do you threaten? Don't you know

> > > any curse you bestow will only hurt you? I fortunately, have my

> > > Mother to protect me. She doesn't like when people try to

threaten

> > > or harm Her devotees. So please, for your own sake, don't act

or

> > > even think things like this. This is not advice, just a prayer.

> > >

> > > Jai Maa!

> > >

> > > Surya

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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