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This is part of an interview with Marshall Rosenberg that appeared in

the Yogi Times in February 2005. I am sharing it because I have found

this method to provide solid guidelines for how to return myself to

Love and Compassion when I am struggling with thoughts and feelings

in or about relationships. For anyone interested, the full interview

and other articles about Nonviolent Communication it can be found at:

http://www.nonviolentcommunication.com/aboutnvc/article_archive.htm

 

 

Q: Many people struggle with criticism and judgment.... How does

Nonviolent Communication help us to deal with criticism from others?

 

A: If you use the [NVC technique] you can hear no criticism at all;

all you can hear is [the other person] saying, "Please!" When you

hear "please" behind what used to sound like criticism, you can see

it as an opportunity to nurture another person. ...this technique is

based on an assumption that all criticism, judgment, diagnosis...all

of this ugly stuff is a tragic expression of unmet need.

 

Q: How did this language of judgment and criticism get started?

 

A: For about the last 8,000 years we have been educated in a language

that is not very effective [for] enjoying any kind of

relationship. ...when people are not getting their needs met, the

best way they know to express it is by saying, "The problem with you

is that you are too...." [rather than saying:] "Hey, a need of mine

is not being met." So Nonviolent Communication translates any

criticism into an unmet need. And no matter what the other person

says, all you hear is the unmet need they are trying to communicate.

Then, what would have sounded like a criticism is really a gift.

 

Q: So people are not listening to the unmet needs behind what [others

are] saying?

 

A: Not only are they not listening: we have not been conscious of it.

Finding the need gives us human beings a chance to do what we enjoy

doing, contributing to the well-being of people. ... What makes it

more tragic is that the words we have almost guarantee that we will

not get our needs met, or if we do it will be very costly. Because it

is being met by guilt, shame or a form of manipulation by believing

that if we do what they want they will give us love. So it is tragic

if that is the only way you have to talk about your...needs.

 

Q: So how does a person really advocate for their needs...?

 

A: Well, first it is to find out what need is activating their

feelings. It could be several. It could be [a need for ...closeness,

empathy, understanding [or even] celebration. First we learn how to

request our needs to be met, and second [we] learn to enjoy a "no" if

that is what comes back. ... If you hear a "no," never hear it as

rejection. Consider, "What is the need behind the no?" What need

keeps the other person from saying yes? When the other person can

trust that you will understand the good reason they are saying no and

why they are not comfortable to meet your need, they they are hearing

a request and not a demand. They will be far more likely to

contribute to our well being when they can trust that our requests

are not demands.

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thank you mary ann for posting this.

 

this is a message we have been trying to learn from many different

angles. and this just strenghtens the message of non-violence

beautifully.

 

thanks.

 

amma's blessings,

ammarnath

 

 

Ammachi, "Mary Ann" <buttercookie61 wrote:

>

> This is part of an interview with Marshall Rosenberg that appeared

in

> the Yogi Times in February 2005. I am sharing it because I have

found

> this method to provide solid guidelines for how to return myself to

> Love and Compassion when I am struggling with thoughts and feelings

> in or about relationships. For anyone interested, the full interview

> and other articles about Nonviolent Communication it can be found

at:

> http://www.nonviolentcommunication.com/aboutnvc/article_archive.htm

>

>

> Q: Many people struggle with criticism and judgment.... How does

> Nonviolent Communication help us to deal with criticism from others?

>

> A: If you use the [NVC technique] you can hear no criticism at all;

> all you can hear is [the other person] saying, "Please!" When you

> hear "please" behind what used to sound like criticism, you can see

> it as an opportunity to nurture another person. ...this technique is

> based on an assumption that all criticism, judgment, diagnosis...all

> of this ugly stuff is a tragic expression of unmet need.

>

> Q: How did this language of judgment and criticism get started?

>

> A: For about the last 8,000 years we have been educated in a

language

> that is not very effective [for] enjoying any kind of

> relationship. ...when people are not getting their needs met, the

> best way they know to express it is by saying, "The problem with you

> is that you are too...." [rather than saying:] "Hey, a need of mine

> is not being met." So Nonviolent Communication translates any

> criticism into an unmet need. And no matter what the other person

> says, all you hear is the unmet need they are trying to communicate.

> Then, what would have sounded like a criticism is really a gift.

>

> Q: So people are not listening to the unmet needs behind what

[others

> are] saying?

>

> A: Not only are they not listening: we have not been conscious of

it.

> Finding the need gives us human beings a chance to do what we enjoy

> doing, contributing to the well-being of people. ... What makes it

> more tragic is that the words we have almost guarantee that we will

> not get our needs met, or if we do it will be very costly. Because

it

> is being met by guilt, shame or a form of manipulation by believing

> that if we do what they want they will give us love. So it is tragic

> if that is the only way you have to talk about your...needs.

>

> Q: So how does a person really advocate for their needs...?

>

> A: Well, first it is to find out what need is activating their

> feelings. It could be several. It could be [a need

for ...closeness,

> empathy, understanding [or even] celebration. First we learn how to

> request our needs to be met, and second [we] learn to enjoy a "no"

if

> that is what comes back. ... If you hear a "no," never hear it as

> rejection. Consider, "What is the need behind the no?" What need

> keeps the other person from saying yes? When the other person can

> trust that you will understand the good reason they are saying no

and

> why they are not comfortable to meet your need, they they are

hearing

> a request and not a demand. They will be far more likely to

> contribute to our well being when they can trust that our requests

> are not demands.

>

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This was so clear and appropriate. I love the "please" behind the

criticism and judgement. It is so true. When I am at my crabbiest

(today is one of those days!) I usually am needing more sleep, more

something more me me me that sometimes gets lost in the shuffle of

taking care of others so often. I try not to feel "robbed" of my own

personal needs and figure that Amma will light my path to get through

it. But this whole idea I think is right on.

 

Conversely, there are "wrongs" in the world and when others are being

hurt I think it is our job and duty to speak out and to try to

protect others where necessary. This is especially true for the

elderly, poor and mentally ill.

 

Amma's back slapping and sometimes crabby daughter,

adriane

 

Ammachi, "Mary Ann" <buttercookie61 wrote:

>

> This is part of an interview with Marshall Rosenberg that appeared

in

> the Yogi Times in February 2005. I am sharing it because I have

found

> this method to provide solid guidelines for how to return myself to

> Love and Compassion when I am struggling with thoughts and feelings

> in or about relationships. For anyone interested, the full interview

> and other articles about Nonviolent Communication it can be found

at:

> http://www.nonviolentcommunication.com/aboutnvc/article_archive.htm

>

>

> Q: Many people struggle with criticism and judgment.... How does

> Nonviolent Communication help us to deal with criticism from others?

>

> A: If you use the [NVC technique] you can hear no criticism at all;

> all you can hear is [the other person] saying, "Please!" When you

> hear "please" behind what used to sound like criticism, you can see

> it as an opportunity to nurture another person. ...this technique is

> based on an assumption that all criticism, judgment, diagnosis...all

> of this ugly stuff is a tragic expression of unmet need.

>

> Q: How did this language of judgment and criticism get started?

>

> A: For about the last 8,000 years we have been educated in a

language

> that is not very effective [for] enjoying any kind of

> relationship. ...when people are not getting their needs met, the

> best way they know to express it is by saying, "The problem with you

> is that you are too...." [rather than saying:] "Hey, a need of mine

> is not being met." So Nonviolent Communication translates any

> criticism into an unmet need. And no matter what the other person

> says, all you hear is the unmet need they are trying to communicate.

> Then, what would have sounded like a criticism is really a gift.

>

> Q: So people are not listening to the unmet needs behind what

[others

> are] saying?

>

> A: Not only are they not listening: we have not been conscious of

it.

> Finding the need gives us human beings a chance to do what we enjoy

> doing, contributing to the well-being of people. ... What makes it

> more tragic is that the words we have almost guarantee that we will

> not get our needs met, or if we do it will be very costly. Because

it

> is being met by guilt, shame or a form of manipulation by believing

> that if we do what they want they will give us love. So it is tragic

> if that is the only way you have to talk about your...needs.

>

> Q: So how does a person really advocate for their needs...?

>

> A: Well, first it is to find out what need is activating their

> feelings. It could be several. It could be [a need

for ...closeness,

> empathy, understanding [or even] celebration. First we learn how to

> request our needs to be met, and second [we] learn to enjoy a "no"

if

> that is what comes back. ... If you hear a "no," never hear it as

> rejection. Consider, "What is the need behind the no?" What need

> keeps the other person from saying yes? When the other person can

> trust that you will understand the good reason they are saying no

and

> why they are not comfortable to meet your need, they they are

hearing

> a request and not a demand. They will be far more likely to

> contribute to our well being when they can trust that our requests

> are not demands.

>

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This is a very good point, that the need of a person "gets lost" in

the attempt to meet another's need. I am reminded of the

instructions we are given by flight attendants before an airplane

takes off. If a pressure change occurs and the oxygen masks come

down out of their compartments, if you have young children or others

you are responsible for, place the mask on yourself first before

putting it onto the children, etc. If I cannot hear a "please" in

someone's criticism, it's because a need of my own must first be

acknowledged and addressed - by me.

 

I am happy that the NVC information is helpful :) I do feel it

offers guidelines, or directions, like a map, to live true to Amma's

teachings.

 

 

Ammachi, "Adriane" <a1driane wrote:

>

> This was so clear and appropriate. I love the "please" behind the

> criticism and judgement. It is so true. When I am at my crabbiest

> (today is one of those days!) I usually am needing more sleep,

more

> something more me me me that sometimes gets lost in the shuffle of

> taking care of others so often. I try not to feel "robbed" of my

own

> personal needs and figure that Amma will light my path to get

through

> it. But this whole idea I think is right on.

>

> Conversely, there are "wrongs" in the world and when others are

being

> hurt I think it is our job and duty to speak out and to try to

> protect others where necessary. This is especially true for the

> elderly, poor and mentally ill.

>

> Amma's back slapping and sometimes crabby daughter,

> adriane

>

> Ammachi, "Mary Ann" <buttercookie61@> wrote:

> >

> > This is part of an interview with Marshall Rosenberg that

appeared

> in

> > the Yogi Times in February 2005. I am sharing it because I have

> found

> > this method to provide solid guidelines for how to return myself

to

> > Love and Compassion when I am struggling with thoughts and

feelings

> > in or about relationships. For anyone interested, the full

interview

> > and other articles about Nonviolent Communication it can be

found

> at:

> >

http://www.nonviolentcommunication.com/aboutnvc/article_archive.htm

> >

> >

> > Q: Many people struggle with criticism and judgment.... How does

> > Nonviolent Communication help us to deal with criticism from

others?

> >

> > A: If you use the [NVC technique] you can hear no criticism at

all;

> > all you can hear is [the other person] saying, "Please!" When

you

> > hear "please" behind what used to sound like criticism, you can

see

> > it as an opportunity to nurture another person. ...this

technique is

> > based on an assumption that all criticism, judgment,

diagnosis...all

> > of this ugly stuff is a tragic expression of unmet need.

> >

> > Q: How did this language of judgment and criticism get started?

> >

> > A: For about the last 8,000 years we have been educated in a

> language

> > that is not very effective [for] enjoying any kind of

> > relationship. ...when people are not getting their needs met, the

> > best way they know to express it is by saying, "The problem with

you

> > is that you are too...." [rather than saying:] "Hey, a need of

mine

> > is not being met." So Nonviolent Communication translates any

> > criticism into an unmet need. And no matter what the other person

> > says, all you hear is the unmet need they are trying to

communicate.

> > Then, what would have sounded like a criticism is really a gift.

> >

> > Q: So people are not listening to the unmet needs behind what

> [others

> > are] saying?

> >

> > A: Not only are they not listening: we have not been conscious

of

> it.

> > Finding the need gives us human beings a chance to do what we

enjoy

> > doing, contributing to the well-being of people. ... What makes

it

> > more tragic is that the words we have almost guarantee that we

will

> > not get our needs met, or if we do it will be very costly.

Because

> it

> > is being met by guilt, shame or a form of manipulation by

believing

> > that if we do what they want they will give us love. So it is

tragic

> > if that is the only way you have to talk about your...needs.

> >

> > Q: So how does a person really advocate for their needs...?

> >

> > A: Well, first it is to find out what need is activating their

> > feelings. It could be several. It could be [a need

> for ...closeness,

> > empathy, understanding [or even] celebration. First we learn how

to

> > request our needs to be met, and second [we] learn to enjoy

a "no"

> if

> > that is what comes back. ... If you hear a "no," never hear it as

> > rejection. Consider, "What is the need behind the no?" What need

> > keeps the other person from saying yes? When the other person can

> > trust that you will understand the good reason they are saying

no

> and

> > why they are not comfortable to meet your need, they they are

> hearing

> > a request and not a demand. They will be far more likely to

> > contribute to our well being when they can trust that our

requests

> > are not demands.

> >

>

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Namah Shivaya,

Thank you for posting this. It seems that many of us have a problem with

anger and criticism. I don't know if it is so much a matter of being

"right" as much as it pushes old buttons of rejection and unfairness,

and of course our old friends, feelings of inadequacy, or feeling

unloved or unlovable. As children we are so vulnerable, and some times

it seems we spend the rest of our lives unlearning. Mother obviously

wants each one of us to feel loved, but maybe the old nasty feelings

have to come up to be recognized - like the cafeteria tray theory, kind

of. So I guess it's all part of the play - of learning and unlearning -

of what's real and what's not. It would be neat if when we are being

criticized we could go to our Self and not revert to being 7 years old

again.

I've known people who never changed in their whole lives. I would

venture to guess that as souls plodding on the spiritual path we are

trying to change, and not become exaggerated caricatures of ourselves.

I think Mother is trying to be sure that doesn't happen.

Jai Ma!

Prasadini

 

 

Mary Ann wrote:

> This is part of an interview with Marshall Rosenberg that appeared in

> the Yogi Times in February 2005. I am sharing it because I have found

> this method to provide solid guidelines for how to return myself to

> Love and Compassion when I am struggling with thoughts and feelings

> in or about relationships. For anyone interested, the full interview

> and other articles about Nonviolent Communication it can be found at:

> http://www.nonviolentcommunication.com/aboutnvc/article_archive.htm

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Thanks for this beautiful innocent desire, premarupa, namaste,

 

A note to all who wish to thank Mary Ann. She probably does not have

time to read all the posts and perhaps none as she works and

moderates the Amma Bhakti Group.

 

So, if you wish to thank her, OFFLINE would be better; maybe you can

copy and post online here also.

 

thank you with amma's blessings,

amarnath

 

 

Ammachi, Kenna <itskenna wrote:

>

> Namah Shivaya dear Mary Ann.

>

> Yes, I too really appreciate your post and intend to apply it as

best as

> possible.

> To pick up on a couple of comments from others:

> This child definitely has a need for social justice.

> By Amma¹s grace, am learning to separate the ego part (what can I

DO to save

> the world ?),

> leaving all sense of doing at every level, including the universal,

up to

> Amma.

> While at the same time, attempting to take responsibility for

poverty, which

> Amma says is the root cause of world problems.

> Maybe we could have a thread on here about how we each are

addressing

> poverty?

> On some level I know I will never feel satisfied as long as one

person is

> hungry, etc.

> On that level I need everyone to be adequately nourished and those

who have

> more than enough to share.

>

> In Her Divine Breath,

> premarupa

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Namah Shivaya dear Mary Ann.

 

Yes, I too really appreciate your post and intend to apply it as best as

possible.

To pick up on a couple of comments from others:

This child definitely has a need for social justice.

By Amma¹s grace, am learning to separate the ego part (what can I DO to save

the world ?),

leaving all sense of doing at every level, including the universal, up to

Amma.

While at the same time, attempting to take responsibility for poverty, which

Amma says is the root cause of world problems.

Maybe we could have a thread on here about how we each are addressing

poverty?

On some level I know I will never feel satisfied as long as one person is

hungry, etc.

On that level I need everyone to be adequately nourished and those who have

more than enough to share.

 

In Her Divine Breath,

premarupa

 

 

 

 

 

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Ammachi, Kenna <itskenna wrote:

>

> Hummm.

> and then there¹s ³innocent desire²???

> what about that?

> pr

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

TRY TO SEE/FEEL IF IT'S COMING FROM YOUR HEAD OR HEART.

 

INNOCENT IS IN THE HEART.

 

BUT YOU KNOW THIS.

 

OM

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Namah Shivaya

 

After little more reflection:

 

how is a need different from a desire?

Amma tells us desire is the root of all sorrow.

Best bet: surrender all desires (needs?) to God.

 

 

pr

 

 

 

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Namaste All:

 

I am so happy to see that people appreciate the Nonviolent

Communication teachings. I feel a sense of community in that, and

inspired by it.

 

It is a good to question what a need is. The Nonviolent Communication

teachings offer guidelines to help people make distinctions between

needs and what are called strategies to get needs met. Money is a

strategy for getting some of our needs met: for sustenance (food),

for a place to live, for clothing, for medical attention, etc. These

needs Amma works to provide for through her humanitarian activities.

But there is spiritual poverty, the poverty of the intellect divorced

from the heart, which is behind why more people are not taking care

of everyone's needs for sustenance (food), a place to live, clothing,

medical attention, etc.

 

In other NVC materials, like the book by Marshall Rosenberg called

Nonviolent Communication: A Language of Life, he makes distinctions

between needs and feelings. It's amazing how feelings and needs are

easily confused due to our habits of language. When you begin to make

these distinctions, you begin to see why our needs often go unmet,

causing/creating pain.

 

I have been studying NVC with a couple named Jim and Jori Manske, who

shared a flier with me on which this need vs. strategy distinction

was made. They also have a chart created (I think) by Manfred Max-

Neef, Ph.D. that you may be able to find online to help with making

further distinctions between feelings, needs, and strategies. They

listed the following websites on the flier: http://www.cnvc.org;

http://www.nvc-nm.org

 

Ammalove,

Mary Ann

 

Ammachi, Kenna <itskenna wrote:

>

> Namah Shivaya

>

> After little more reflection:

>

> how is a need different from a desire?

> Amma tells us desire is the root of all sorrow.

> Best bet: surrender all desires (needs?) to God.

>

>

> pr

>

>

>

>

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Namah Shivaya.

 

The posters keep weaving

threads into beautiful fabric,

Synergy sparkling in the bright rays of spring.

This one falls behind,

as if riding a snail,

Still reflecting on the idea of hearing please instead of AAAAAGHHHHHH!!!!

Inspired by a certain mouse, the snail decides to circle around YOU KNOW

WHO.

Suddenly She looks this way,

an enigmatic gleam in Her eye,

says ³please² to this ego.

and lovingly whispers:

³ALWAYS HEAR PLEASE.

ALWAYS SAY THANK YOU.²

 

Jai Amma.

premarupa

 

 

 

 

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Namah Shivaya.

 

Spring in the Cyber Satsang

 

The posters keep weaving

threads into beautiful fabric,

Synergy sparkling in the bright rays of spring.

This one falls behind,

As if she were riding a snail,

Still reflecting on an old post about hearing please instead of

AAAAAGHHHHHH!!!!

Inspired by a certain mouse, the snail circles YOU KNOW WHO.

Suddenly She looks this way,

an enigmatic gleam in Her eye,

says ³please² to this ego,

and kindly whispers:

³ALWAYS HEAR PLEASE.

ALWAYS SAY THANK YOU.²

What a tease.

What a tease.

What a tease.

 

Jai Amma.

premarupa

 

 

 

 

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