Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Dear group, I am writing because, though I haven't been posting, I have kept up a bit with the digests. I was sad to see that the squabbling was still going on, because, as someone said, and this is true, when Amma was here for Her 2005 tour, She did say that this digest is a satsang. I cried a bit at some of it, and also read some very wonderful posts by Amarnath and GeorgeSon and others, trying to move the group beyond the sand box. Whatever anyone thinks of me for hightailing it out of town really isn't important; I really needed a break. I did feel stung by what seemed to be unkind remarks about Shree Maa and Swamiji, but I would feel the same about unkind remarks about Amma or Karunamayi or any number of Mahatmas currently walking the earth. I acknowledge that I had a reaction, and in the best of worlds, I wouldn't have taken what was said so personally, but this digest has been a sanctuary and a "home" for me as I have struggled with very troubling family issues as well as my illness. I have experienced several "flame" incidents over the course of several years, that have taken place on the digest, having nothing to do with me personally. A couple of times, I quit reading the digest for a week or two, just because this wasn't the experience I wanted to choose. For whatever it's worth, because, after all, who am I (just another bozo on the bus) is unimportant, I thank and bow to all the folks who reminded everyone that this is indeed a satsang, and for some, the only one they have. Does personal "stuff" get brought up in satsangs in the "real" world? Are there cliques, squabbling, power clashes, etc.? Of course, and as some pointed out, these take place even around Amma. However, to those who pled for some understanding that, within the construct that we call a satsang, it is a good idea to hold ourselves to a higher standard, to sometimes bite our tongues, and, what is even harder, to simply not respond or give attention to anything that would disrupt our peace of mind or pull us away from the goal, which is Ammachi. Last night I went to to a retrospective art show opening for a friend of mine, Zoe Wolfe. Her work, most of it larger than life, which spanned a 50 year period of time (in honor of her 50th birthday) was unabashedly female ... I saw all the same art "trends" that I had been through in my own art journey, but what struck me the most were two posters. Zoe's work is highly professional, incredible quality. These posters were like something anyone of us might create, a hodgepodge of imagery and written words, not even framed. The fact that she chose to share these, which compared to her other work, were in some ways not very professional, shows the devotion she has. The posters had a decidedly Hindu bent, with lots of Oms, some painted or drawn, some stickons from the local bazaar; she had pictures of Karunamayi, pictures of Ammachi, pictures of Ramana Maharshi, and others. There were Ganesh and Saraswati pictures that she had just gotten from somewhere and glued onto the posters. In any case it was wonderful; in some ways, my favorite work of the entire show. Here were all these mahatmas and deities "sitting" on the posters together, all smiling, and it struck me that this is the way things really are. These mahatmas don't care about our squabbling, except in so far, perhaps, as it is a part of our spiritual journey. Perhaps they'd rather we not be squabbling, but perhaps they don't even care; it is all part of the process. I wanted to buy them, and Zoe said, "make me an offer," and I would have, except there is no more room in the trailer to hang them, and besides, I think it would be more fun and more enlightening to make my own. She also had the sweetest sculpture of Ganesha. It was the smallest work in the show. He was l ying down with a cover over him, looking very happy and serene, with is little mouse at the foot of his "bed" looking at him with love. I thought, "oh I wish everyone on the Amma digest and everyone on the Shree Maa digest could see these. In art, or at least in Zoe's heart and mind, there is room for everything. My heart holds Ammachi, as Her heart holds me; it also holds Shree Maa and Swamiji, and Yogananda and Karunamayi and Swami Amir Jyoti (on another plane at this point), and Swami Satchitananda, and Ananda Mayi Ma, and Ramakrishna. The heart is bigger than we may sometimes believe; it is big enough to hold the universe. These mahatmas have no stake in who we choose as our guru. They are happy we choose to be on this spiritual journey. In many ways, since not being active in the group, I have felt Amma's presence strong in my life, and it is as thought She is letting me know I can go over and study with these mahatmas with Her blessing, but also that She is always here, only a thought or a feeling away. Perhaps I did mention Shree Maa and Swamiji too often, but I wasn't aware of it. Many of us talk about other mahatmas here. If I was abrogating some "rule of thumb," I sincerely apologize. I have missed all of you, and you are in my heart and thoughts and prayers. I can't say at this point what I will do, perhaps just stop by now and then to say hello. As I have told some people, off digest, that, if I can manage it, I will see Ammachi this summer. First I have to persuade myself to be willing to get on an airplane. So I might go to Iowa, which is where I'd really like to go. Or I might go to DC because I also desperately want to see my daughter. Since Amma will be in Iowa, just before DC, maybe I will go to Iowa first and then go to DC and see Her twice. For any part I may have played in the flame, I am deeply sorry. One thing I have been learning is that part of being a devotee or a disciple is that one wants to emulate the behavior of the guru. How does the guru conduct him/herself? How does the guru worship? How does the guru relate to other people? The more I can bring the conduct of the guru (or gurus) into my own life and behavior, the less I will need to worry if what I am doing is causing offense to anyone. Blessings to all ~ Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Mother calls this list a Satsang. When we are praying together, and sharing together, and supporting each other through life and our sadhana it is a satsang. When we are bickering and calling each other pigs we are no more than a bunch of drunks in a bar brawl. In fact, in a bar among a bunch of drunks this behavior is tolerable. It's what you expect. When I come to this list it isn't tolerable for me, because when I come here, to this satsang, I'm looking for inspiration, for peace. I realize that there are people who don't mind the bickering, who feel that we can act as we please. That's fine. This child finds it painful. I have come to admire and to love many members of this satsang. In fact this is my only satsang, as it is for many others. I hate to see people I love leave the group because of people acting badly. As has been mentioned by others, there are other forums where brawling is expected. Can we relate HERE with a modicum of civility? Can we behave as if Mother is in the room with us? Because She is. nierika wrote: > Dear group, > > I am writing because, though I haven't been posting, I have kept up a > bit > with the digests. > I was sad to see that the squabbling was still going on, because, as > someone > said, and this is true, when Amma was here for Her 2005 tour, She did > say > that this digest is a satsang. > I cried a bit at some of it, and also read some very wonderful posts by > Amarnath and GeorgeSon and others, trying to move the group beyond the > sand box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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