Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Someone once told me that the bramachari's in Amma's Indian ashrams wear white, except on special occasions. Can someone confirm? Also, there are different traditions when it comes to names and sannyas. Someone told me that the bramachari's at Yogaville wear orange (like the ISKCON peach color) and are even called "swami". The only difference is the "Ananda" at the end of their name for true Sannyaas initiates. Can someone confirm this? There seems to be variances in the color of cloth: Yellow can sometimes be pastel orange like sherbert, and sannyaas orange can be the light peach of ISKON/yogaville, rather than the fire-orange of Amma's swami's. The only time I've seen a true yellow is on Buddhists, maybe other's have seen them on Amma's br's, I don't know. tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Hi Tom, At Amma's ashrams in India there are brahmacharis and there are formally initiated brahmacharis. The latter are distinguished by yellow robes. I've never been to Yogaville. People call many people "swami" out of sheer respect alone, in India. Color does vary tremendously. Ochre can mean anything from light orange to dark orange to even red. Even Amma's swamis have been seen to wear red color robes. Yellow varies tremendously as well. Usually with a certain group, you will see a following of a certain color shade. Pranams, Surya - Tom Ammachi Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:16 AM India: Br's in White? Someone once told me that the bramachari's in Amma's Indian ashrams wear white, except on special occasions. Can someone confirm? Also, there are different traditions when it comes to names and sannyas. Someone told me that the bramachari's at Yogaville wear orange (like the ISKCON peach color) and are even called "swami". The only difference is the "Ananda" at the end of their name for true Sannyaas initiates. Can someone confirm this? There seems to be variances in the color of cloth: Yellow can sometimes be pastel orange like sherbert, and sannyaas orange can be the light peach of ISKON/yogaville, rather than the fire-orange of Amma's swami's. The only time I've seen a true yellow is on Buddhists, maybe other's have seen them on Amma's br's, I don't know. tom Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Mata amritanandamayi a.. Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. b.. Ammachi c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Maybe it has something to do with the different lineages of swamis. I know Amma's swamis come from the Puri lineage, which I think was begun by Adi Shankaracharya, can someone confirm? Many tried to convice Her to start Her own lineage, but She wanted to stay in harmony with India's traditional lineages. Amma Herself, many people seem suprised to hear, has not taken any "formal" vows of renunciation, because She had no embodied Guru. That is why it would be improper for Her to give sanyas, because it has to be given by one of that line. I believe that when they do the ceremony, it is one of the other swamis that "officiates," and Amma, of course, presides. Swamis in the Ramakrishna order also wear that peachy color. I thought they were of the Puri line also, though perhaps I am mistaken. I'm pretty sure that Amma's disciples in white, in India, are either just regular devotees or they are renunciates who have not taken formal vows (performed their own funeral rites, etc.) yet. I have a friend at Amritapuri who is one such aspiring bramacharin, and he is still trying to raise the money for the renunciate fee. But Amma consideres him a renunciate, and there is another woman who I see on the US tour all the time who wears all white and Amma considers her a renunciate also, although she is still trying to raise the funds. At one time, I was quite sure that I would be heading down that road myself, but then I met my fiance at a Devi Bhava program, and the rest is history! Amma has plans for all Her children.... love, Prajna Tom <tomgull wrote: Someone once told me that the bramachari's in Amma's Indian ashrams wear white, except on special occasions. Can someone confirm? Also, there are different traditions when it comes to names and sannyas. Someone told me that the bramachari's at Yogaville wear orange (like the ISKCON peach color) and are even called "swami". The only difference is the "Ananda" at the end of their name for true Sannyaas initiates. Can someone confirm this? There seems to be variances in the color of cloth: Yellow can sometimes be pastel orange like sherbert, and sannyaas orange can be the light peach of ISKON/yogaville, rather than the fire-orange of Amma's swami's. The only time I've seen a true yellow is on Buddhists, maybe other's have seen them on Amma's br's, I don't know. tom Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Mata amritanandamayi Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. Ammachi Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 All the Dasnami (10 name) Sannyasi (Swami) lineages trace their origin back to Adi Shankararcharya. Puri is one of these. Only a Swami can make another person a Swami, so what you stated regarding Amma is correct. But we are talking about a formal order of course, not true Renunciation itself. All other Swamis in Amma's group are made by Big Swamiji (Sw. Amritaswarupananda), as far as last I heard. Brahmachari's don't take last funeral rites. That is done during Sannyas initiation. Anyone can be a brahmachari in white as far as I know, provided you follow the rules surrounding it, which above all others is celibacy. Though formally living that way at Amritapuri requires a certain type of one time donation, but this is for asking them to support you for the rest of your life. Jai Maa! Surya - Prajna - Brianna Ammachi Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:44 PM Re: India: Br's in White? Maybe it has something to do with the different lineages of swamis. I know Amma's swamis come from the Puri lineage, which I think was begun by Adi Shankaracharya, can someone confirm? Many tried to convice Her to start Her own lineage, but She wanted to stay in harmony with India's traditional lineages. Amma Herself, many people seem suprised to hear, has not taken any "formal" vows of renunciation, because She had no embodied Guru. That is why it would be improper for Her to give sanyas, because it has to be given by one of that line. I believe that when they do the ceremony, it is one of the other swamis that "officiates," and Amma, of course, presides. Swamis in the Ramakrishna order also wear that peachy color. I thought they were of the Puri line also, though perhaps I am mistaken. I'm pretty sure that Amma's disciples in white, in India, are either just regular devotees or they are renunciates who have not taken formal vows (performed their own funeral rites, etc.) yet. I have a friend at Amritapuri who is one such aspiring bramacharin, and he is still trying to raise the money for the renunciate fee. But Amma consideres him a renunciate, and there is another woman who I see on the US tour all the time who wears all white and Amma considers her a renunciate also, although she is still trying to raise the funds. At one time, I was quite sure that I would be heading down that road myself, but then I met my fiance at a Devi Bhava program, and the rest is history! Amma has plans for all Her children.... love, Prajna Tom <tomgull wrote: Someone once told me that the bramachari's in Amma's Indian ashrams wear white, except on special occasions. Can someone confirm? Also, there are different traditions when it comes to names and sannyas. Someone told me that the bramachari's at Yogaville wear orange (like the ISKCON peach color) and are even called "swami". The only difference is the "Ananda" at the end of their name for true Sannyaas initiates. Can someone confirm this? There seems to be variances in the color of cloth: Yellow can sometimes be pastel orange like sherbert, and sannyaas orange can be the light peach of ISKON/yogaville, rather than the fire-orange of Amma's swami's. The only time I've seen a true yellow is on Buddhists, maybe other's have seen them on Amma's br's, I don't know. tom Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Mata amritanandamayi Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. Ammachi Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Mata amritanandamayi a.. Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. b.. Ammachi c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Ammachi, Prajna - Brianna <prajnaji wrote: > That is why it would be improper for Her to give sanyas, because it has to be given by one of that line. I believe that when they do the ceremony, it is one of the other swamis that "officiates," and Amma, of course, presides. > > Swamis in the Ramakrishna order also wear that peachy color. I thought they were of the Puri line also, though perhaps I am mistaken. > > love, > > Prajna Sw Amritaswarupananda was given the monastic vows by a swami from the RK order; hence these swamis in Amma's ashram and the RK order are all Puris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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