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You need to petition the moderator to make such a limitation on this

group. Example: "Only positive messages about Ammachi and her

disciples, devotees are allowed on this board, please respect these

guidelines. (then refer the other free-speech group)" You're a

true Dayamrita crony in choosing to manipulate this group rather than

having this group listed as I've mentioned above. COMMUNICATE!!!

 

I look at actions and discriminate, not go with passion and feelings.

I think I made my point about seeking truth in an earlier post.

 

Seek only the pleasant and positive and you stay in the bliss of

ignorance, feeding the ego.

 

 

Ammachi, "Mahamuni" <mahamuni wrote:

>

> Nothing wrong with honesty and truth, but again, who are you to

state this type of "truth" about someone else? How does it really

help anyone?

>

> Again, it is totally okay and fine for you to feel the way you do

and have your own opinions. But to express them publically in a

forum like this is not appropriate. At least only do it in the free

speech zone group, if you insist on expressing yourself in this way.

>

> I have had my own positive and not so positive experiences with

Dayamrita, but I would never state the type of things you stated, and

especially not in this forum. Not only because it does not help to

speak in this way about someone else, but how about just simple, old

fashioned respect. If one hasn't even learned respect, how can they

advance in spiritual life?

>

> Surya

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Tom,

 

You never seem to get it. While you don't have to post only positive messages,

which would not be a bad idea IMHO, at least keep the posts neutral. Negative

posts don't help anyone.

 

Calling me a Dayamrita crony, which I might point out is yet another negative

name calling post from you, is so laughable that I don't know what to say. But

regardless of how I feel or don't feel about Dayamrita or any of the Swamis or

any of the other people who travel with Amma, I would never post derrogatory

things about them here to many people I don't know, especially when they are not

here to defend themselves. There is no reason to do so and there is no benefit

to anyone, especially to the person making the derrogatory comments.

 

Bottom line is no one is perfect, including both you and I, and there are many

perspective with which someone can view and judge another's actions. All those

perspectives may not be proper and/or complete.

 

But maybe petitioning the moderator is not a bad idea. I haven't seen anyone

else support your point of view on this subject.

 

I am not interested in bickering with you as others have stated. But discussion

on this topic is not bickering as far as I am concerned. I don't consider this

fighting but needed discussion.

 

Pranams,

 

Surya

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Tom

Ammachi

Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:10 AM

Re: petition moderator

 

 

You need to petition the moderator to make such a limitation on this

group. Example: "Only positive messages about Ammachi and her

disciples, devotees are allowed on this board, please respect these

guidelines. (then refer the other free-speech group)" You're a

true Dayamrita crony in choosing to manipulate this group rather than

having this group listed as I've mentioned above. COMMUNICATE!!!

 

I look at actions and discriminate, not go with passion and feelings.

I think I made my point about seeking truth in an earlier post.

 

Seek only the pleasant and positive and you stay in the bliss of

ignorance, feeding the ego.

 

 

Ammachi, "Mahamuni" <mahamuni wrote:

>

> Nothing wrong with honesty and truth, but again, who are you to

state this type of "truth" about someone else? How does it really

help anyone?

>

> Again, it is totally okay and fine for you to feel the way you do

and have your own opinions. But to express them publically in a

forum like this is not appropriate. At least only do it in the free

speech zone group, if you insist on expressing yourself in this way.

>

> I have had my own positive and not so positive experiences with

Dayamrita, but I would never state the type of things you stated, and

especially not in this forum. Not only because it does not help to

speak in this way about someone else, but how about just simple, old

fashioned respect. If one hasn't even learned respect, how can they

advance in spiritual life?

>

> Surya

 

 

 

 

 

 

Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

 

 

 

Mata amritanandamayi

 

 

 

 

a.. Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web.

 

b..

Ammachi

 

c..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Ammachi, "Mahamuni" <mahamuni wrote:

> I am not interested in bickering with you as others have stated.

But discussion on this topic is not bickering as far as I am

concerned. I don't consider this fighting but needed discussion.

>

> Pranams,

>

> Surya

 

Hi Surya,

 

FWIW, I dont think you have been bickering, although I can see how a

set idea of a what a "spiritual person is and should behave" can make

it look you are. Remember Sri Krishna also exhorted Arjuna to fight it

out instead of making a dignified (or cowardly, depending on the way

you want to look at it) retreat?

 

I also consider this as a valid dharmic discussion that you and Tom

are having, although it is unambigously strenous and unpleasant to all.

 

I am trying really hard to follow what the Guru is in all of this: see

the the Guru in all; see all the words and actions as the Guru's words

and actions.

 

No more comments about or to anyone, and my hardest best to not judge

anyone. My best wishes to all.

 

Jai Ma!

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Thanks for your comments Manoj. But what is your opinion about whether negative

comments have a place in this forum?

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manoj_menon

Ammachi

Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:19 PM

Re: petition moderator

 

 

Ammachi, "Mahamuni" <mahamuni wrote:

> I am not interested in bickering with you as others have stated.

But discussion on this topic is not bickering as far as I am

concerned. I don't consider this fighting but needed discussion.

>

> Pranams,

>

> Surya

 

Hi Surya,

 

FWIW, I dont think you have been bickering, although I can see how a

set idea of a what a "spiritual person is and should behave" can make

it look you are. Remember Sri Krishna also exhorted Arjuna to fight it

out instead of making a dignified (or cowardly, depending on the way

you want to look at it) retreat?

 

I also consider this as a valid dharmic discussion that you and Tom

are having, although it is unambigously strenous and unpleasant to all.

 

I am trying really hard to follow what the Guru is in all of this: see

the the Guru in all; see all the words and actions as the Guru's words

and actions.

 

No more comments about or to anyone, and my hardest best to not judge

anyone. My best wishes to all.

 

Jai Ma!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

 

 

 

Mata amritanandamayi

 

 

 

 

a.. Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web.

 

b..

Ammachi

 

c..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> You need to petition the moderator to make such a

> limitation on this

> group. Example: "Only positive messages about

> Ammachi and her

> disciples, devotees are allowed on this board,

> please respect these

> guidelines. (then refer the other free-speech

> group)"

 

I have no intention of imposing such ridiculous

feel-good limits on this group. Spamming will get you

bounced from this group. So will repeated use of

racial or ethnic slurs. I've also rejected rambling,

incoherent new-agey messages and far-left über-PC

commentary that has absolutely zilch to do with Amma

or eastern spirituality in general. But no one will

ever be booted from this group for not towing the

official Amma party line.

 

Remember you can always hit 'delete' or send an

off-list message rather than carry on these

tempests-in-teapots with the entire group.

 

Keval

(non-Dayamrita crony)

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Well I guess that is that then.

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Mike Brooker

Ammachi

Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:39 PM

Re: Re: petition moderator

 

 

> You need to petition the moderator to make such a

> limitation on this

> group. Example: "Only positive messages about

> Ammachi and her

> disciples, devotees are allowed on this board,

> please respect these

> guidelines. (then refer the other free-speech

> group)"

 

I have no intention of imposing such ridiculous

feel-good limits on this group. Spamming will get you

bounced from this group. So will repeated use of

racial or ethnic slurs. I've also rejected rambling,

incoherent new-agey messages and far-left über-PC

commentary that has absolutely zilch to do with Amma

or eastern spirituality in general. But no one will

ever be booted from this group for not towing the

official Amma party line.

 

Remember you can always hit 'delete' or send an

off-list message rather than carry on these

tempests-in-teapots with the entire group.

 

Keval

(non-Dayamrita crony)

 

 

 

 

Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

 

 

 

Mata amritanandamayi

 

 

 

 

a.. Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web.

 

b..

Ammachi

 

c..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thanks, Keval. I agree with your policy.

 

Nandu

Ammachi, Mike Brooker <patria1818 wrote:

>

> > You need to petition the moderator to make such a

> > limitation on this

> > group. Example: "Only positive messages about

> > Ammachi and her

> > disciples, devotees are allowed on this board,

> > please respect these

> > guidelines. (then refer the other free-speech

> > group)"

>

> I have no intention of imposing such ridiculous

> feel-good limits on this group. Spamming will get you

> bounced from this group. So will repeated use of

> racial or ethnic slurs. I've also rejected rambling,

> incoherent new-agey messages and far-left über-PC

> commentary that has absolutely zilch to do with Amma

> or eastern spirituality in general. But no one will

> ever be booted from this group for not towing the

> official Amma party line.

>

> Remember you can always hit 'delete' or send an

> off-list message rather than carry on these

> tempests-in-teapots with the entire group.

>

> Keval

> (non-Dayamrita crony)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Wow what stupidity it's not ok to make fun of specific race but ok to

offend Amma devotees. Then I petition you to have Amma devotees

classified as a specific race or class of people.

 

 

 

Ammachi, Mike Brooker <patria1818 wrote:

>

> > You need to petition the moderator to make such a

> > limitation on this

> > group. Example: "Only positive messages about

> > Ammachi and her

> > disciples, devotees are allowed on this board,

> > please respect these

> > guidelines. (then refer the other free-speech

> > group)"

>

> I have no intention of imposing such ridiculous

> feel-good limits on this group. Spamming will get you

> bounced from this group. So will repeated use of

> racial or ethnic slurs. I've also rejected rambling,

> incoherent new-agey messages and far-left über-PC

> commentary that has absolutely zilch to do with Amma

> or eastern spirituality in general. But no one will

> ever be booted from this group for not towing the

> official Amma party line.

>

> Remember you can always hit 'delete' or send an

> off-list message rather than carry on these

> tempests-in-teapots with the entire group.

>

> Keval

> (non-Dayamrita crony)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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As usual Nandu to the rescue of idiotic & stupid posts.

 

 

Ammachi, "vallathnkumar" <vallathn wrote:

>

> Thanks, Keval. I agree with your policy.

>

> Nandu

> Ammachi, Mike Brooker <patria1818@> wrote:

> >

> > > You need to petition the moderator to make such a

> > > limitation on this

> > > group. Example: "Only positive messages about

> > > Ammachi and her

> > > disciples, devotees are allowed on this board,

> > > please respect these

> > > guidelines. (then refer the other free-speech

> > > group)"

> >

> > I have no intention of imposing such ridiculous

> > feel-good limits on this group. Spamming will get you

> > bounced from this group. So will repeated use of

> > racial or ethnic slurs. I've also rejected rambling,

> > incoherent new-agey messages and far-left über-PC

> > commentary that has absolutely zilch to do with Amma

> > or eastern spirituality in general. But no one will

> > ever be booted from this group for not towing the

> > official Amma party line.

> >

> > Remember you can always hit 'delete' or send an

> > off-list message rather than carry on these

> > tempests-in-teapots with the entire group.

> >

> > Keval

> > (non-Dayamrita crony)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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As an aside to all (in the interests of literacy), it's

"toe the line" not "tow the line."

 

Jyotsna

 

Ammachi, Mike Brooker <patria1818 wrote:

>

> > You need to petition the moderator to make such a

> > limitation on this

> > group. Example: "Only positive messages about

> > Ammachi and her

> > disciples, devotees are allowed on this board,

> > please respect these

> > guidelines. (then refer the other free-speech

> > group)"

>

> I have no intention of imposing such ridiculous

> feel-good limits on this group. Spamming will get you

> bounced from this group. So will repeated use of

> racial or ethnic slurs. I've also rejected rambling,

> incoherent new-agey messages and far-left über-PC

> commentary that has absolutely zilch to do with Amma

> or eastern spirituality in general. But no one will

> ever be booted from this group for not towing the

> official Amma party line.

>

> Remember you can always hit 'delete' or send an

> off-list message rather than carry on these

> tempests-in-teapots with the entire group.

>

> Keval

> (non-Dayamrita crony)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Ha! Good one!

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jyotsna2

Ammachi

Wednesday, March 15, 2006 6:02 PM

Re: petition moderator

 

 

As an aside to all (in the interests of literacy), it's

"toe the line" not "tow the line."

 

Jyotsna

 

Ammachi, Mike Brooker <patria1818 wrote:

>

> > You need to petition the moderator to make such a

> > limitation on this

> > group. Example: "Only positive messages about

> > Ammachi and her

> > disciples, devotees are allowed on this board,

> > please respect these

> > guidelines. (then refer the other free-speech

> > group)"

>

> I have no intention of imposing such ridiculous

> feel-good limits on this group. Spamming will get you

> bounced from this group. So will repeated use of

> racial or ethnic slurs. I've also rejected rambling,

> incoherent new-agey messages and far-left über-PC

> commentary that has absolutely zilch to do with Amma

> or eastern spirituality in general. But no one will

> ever be booted from this group for not towing the

> official Amma party line.

>

> Remember you can always hit 'delete' or send an

> off-list message rather than carry on these

> tempests-in-teapots with the entire group.

>

> Keval

> (non-Dayamrita crony)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

 

 

 

Mata amritanandamayi

 

 

 

 

a.. Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web.

 

b..

Ammachi

 

c..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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among all this "serious" insanity, your post Jyotsna really broke me

up laughing !

thanks and om santi,

amarnath

 

Ammachi, "jyotsna2" <jyotsna2 wrote:

>

> As an aside to all (in the interests of literacy), it's

> "toe the line" not "tow the line."

>

> Jyotsna

>

> Ammachi, Mike Brooker <patria1818@> wrote:

> >

> > > You need to petition the moderator to make such a

> > > limitation on this

> > > group. Example: "Only positive messages about

> > > Ammachi and her

> > > disciples, devotees are allowed on this board,

> > > please respect these

> > > guidelines. (then refer the other free-speech

> > > group)"

> >

> > I have no intention of imposing such ridiculous

> > feel-good limits on this group. Spamming will get you

> > bounced from this group. So will repeated use of

> > racial or ethnic slurs. I've also rejected rambling,

> > incoherent new-agey messages and far-left über-PC

> > commentary that has absolutely zilch to do with Amma

> > or eastern spirituality in general. But no one will

> > ever be booted from this group for not towing the

> > official Amma party line.

> >

> > Remember you can always hit 'delete' or send an

> > off-list message rather than carry on these

> > tempests-in-teapots with the entire group.

> >

> > Keval

> > (non-Dayamrita crony)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Thanks, Ravi. Being often (perhaps even chronically) afflicted with

idiocy and stupidity myself, it is nice to know that I am capable of

supporting those who may, sadly, be bereft of discrimination and love.

 

And we do need at least the occasional idiotic and stupid post to

remind us of what is smart and devotional.

 

Nandu

 

Ammachi, "Ravi Chivukula" <ravichivukula

wrote:

>

> As usual Nandu to the rescue of idiotic & stupid posts.

>

>

> Ammachi, "vallathnkumar" <vallathn@> wrote:

> >

> > Thanks, Keval. I agree with your policy.

> >

> > Nandu

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