Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 The Dayamrita topic has run it's course and I thank all those who've contributed. Thanks for his bio, but I'm well aware of it, and he's not an "official" sannyasin to my knowledge, or perhaps I missed his Initiation. It's his fans that enjoy calling him "swamiji" leading others to this misconclusion. I'm as much as a sannyasin as he is if you're talking otherwise. His Actions in regards to the satsangs, as "national satsang leader", is my main problem with him. Thanks for those who passed on the answer to my question on the Devi Mandir group. I had thought the question itself had gotten me booted since I had clashed with the moderator in the past, but the moderator's answer w/Swamiji's discredit's this theory. I'll save the case history of "The LS Interruption" of the DC satsang for a later time. This particular story shows how people who've been following Amma for 10+ years, and other's who've MEMORIZED the LS stotram, still don't understand etiquette or devotion. When it happened, I didn't curse anyone in respect of the setting, but if such a grave offense occurs in the future, I'll "order a lesson" for the offenders with much eagerness. "Children, have you ever noticed how even tasteless food tastes wonderful after you've been fasting for a time? And have you ever watched a starving person or starving animal who's suddenly been given some food? They will gulp it down without any thought to it's taste or if it will upset their stomach. Similary, when one becomes Hungry for (supreme) Truth, they won't impose any restrictions such as flavor or digestability". Awaken Children, Volume... Well, let's say Volume 108 since I just made it up. peace, tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 I've wondered about this, because the Amma website still lists him as "Br. Dayamrita," but I'm pretty sure I heard him give a discourse awhile back in which he talked about how his relationship with Amma became really difficult either just before or just after she initiated him. So, now I'm confused! Is anyone able to confirm one way or the other? Just curious. Namah Sivaya, Iswari Ammachi, "Tom" <tomgull wrote: > > The Dayamrita topic has run it's course and I thank all those who've > contributed. Thanks for his bio, but I'm well aware of it, and he's > not an "official" sannyasin to my knowledge, or perhaps I missed his > Initiation. It's his fans that enjoy calling him "swamiji" leading > others to this misconclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 He is a formal brahmachari. People call him "Swami" out of respect. His yellow robes seem quite a bit more orange than others I have seen around Amma though. But again, it is the character of a man, not the color of his clothes (including robes), which define him. And regardless of the color of his robes, no one here should openly say such derrogatory things about him like Tom did. - ammasiswari Ammachi Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:04 PM Re: Ok, I'll stop for now;/ Amma says I've wondered about this, because the Amma website still lists him as "Br. Dayamrita," but I'm pretty sure I heard him give a discourse awhile back in which he talked about how his relationship with Amma became really difficult either just before or just after she initiated him. So, now I'm confused! Is anyone able to confirm one way or the other? Just curious. Namah Sivaya, Iswari Ammachi, "Tom" <tomgull wrote: > > The Dayamrita topic has run it's course and I thank all those who've > contributed. Thanks for his bio, but I'm well aware of it, and he's > not an "official" sannyasin to my knowledge, or perhaps I missed his > Initiation. It's his fans that enjoy calling him "swamiji" leading > others to this misconclusion. Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Mata amritanandamayi a.. Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. b.. Ammachi c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Again I would have to ask, who made you the authority or sole judge of who leads a spiritual or worldly life, or who has devotion and ettiquette and who does not? I am soooooo surprised that you clashed with yet another person, sweet Nanda, the hard working moderator of the Devi Mandir forum. Is there a pattern you should maybe look at here, or is it just everyone else's fault? Surya - Tom Ammachi Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:40 AM Ok, I'll stop for now;/ Amma says The Dayamrita topic has run it's course and I thank all those who've contributed. Thanks for his bio, but I'm well aware of it, and he's not an "official" sannyasin to my knowledge, or perhaps I missed his Initiation. It's his fans that enjoy calling him "swamiji" leading others to this misconclusion. I'm as much as a sannyasin as he is if you're talking otherwise. His Actions in regards to the satsangs, as "national satsang leader", is my main problem with him. Thanks for those who passed on the answer to my question on the Devi Mandir group. I had thought the question itself had gotten me booted since I had clashed with the moderator in the past, but the moderator's answer w/Swamiji's discredit's this theory. I'll save the case history of "The LS Interruption" of the DC satsang for a later time. This particular story shows how people who've been following Amma for 10+ years, and other's who've MEMORIZED the LS stotram, still don't understand etiquette or devotion. When it happened, I didn't curse anyone in respect of the setting, but if such a grave offense occurs in the future, I'll "order a lesson" for the offenders with much eagerness. "Children, have you ever noticed how even tasteless food tastes wonderful after you've been fasting for a time? And have you ever watched a starving person or starving animal who's suddenly been given some food? They will gulp it down without any thought to it's taste or if it will upset their stomach. Similary, when one becomes Hungry for (supreme) Truth, they won't impose any restrictions such as flavor or digestability". Awaken Children, Volume... Well, let's say Volume 108 since I just made it up. peace, tom Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Mata amritanandamayi a.. Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. b.. Ammachi c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 I agree that it's character that defines a person, not the color of his robes. Some of the most spiritually conscious, compassionate people I know have no special title or outfits. (Regarding Dayamrita specifically, I've just never been sure what I'm supposed to call him!) Blessings, Iswari Ammachi, "Mahamuni" <mahamuni wrote: > > He is a formal brahmachari. People call him "Swami" out of respect. His yellow robes seem quite a bit more orange than others I have seen around Amma though. But again, it is the character of a man, not the color of his clothes (including robes), which define him. And regardless of the color of his robes, no one here should openly say such derrogatory things about him like Tom did. > - > ammasiswari > Ammachi > Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:04 PM > Re: Ok, I'll stop for now;/ Amma says > > > I've wondered about this, because the Amma website still lists him as "Br. Dayamrita," but > I'm pretty sure I heard him give a discourse awhile back in which he talked about how his > relationship with Amma became really difficult either just before or just after she initiated > him. So, now I'm confused! Is anyone able to confirm one way or the other? Just curious. > > Namah Sivaya, > Iswari > > Ammachi, "Tom" <tomgull@> wrote: > > > > The Dayamrita topic has run it's course and I thank all those who've > > contributed. Thanks for his bio, but I'm well aware of it, and he's > > not an "official" sannyasin to my knowledge, or perhaps I missed his > > Initiation. It's his fans that enjoy calling him "swamiji" leading > > others to this misconclusion. > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > Mata amritanandamayi > > > ---------- -- > > > a.. Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. > > b.. > Ammachi > > c.. > > > ---------- -- > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 I don't think he minds what you would call him. - ammasiswari Ammachi Tuesday, March 14, 2006 4:22 PM Re: Ok, I'll stop for now;/ Amma says I agree that it's character that defines a person, not the color of his robes. Some of the most spiritually conscious, compassionate people I know have no special title or outfits. (Regarding Dayamrita specifically, I've just never been sure what I'm supposed to call him!) Blessings, Iswari Ammachi, "Mahamuni" <mahamuni wrote: > > He is a formal brahmachari. People call him "Swami" out of respect. His yellow robes seem quite a bit more orange than others I have seen around Amma though. But again, it is the character of a man, not the color of his clothes (including robes), which define him. And regardless of the color of his robes, no one here should openly say such derrogatory things about him like Tom did. > - > ammasiswari > Ammachi > Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:04 PM > Re: Ok, I'll stop for now;/ Amma says > > > I've wondered about this, because the Amma website still lists him as "Br. Dayamrita," but > I'm pretty sure I heard him give a discourse awhile back in which he talked about how his > relationship with Amma became really difficult either just before or just after she initiated > him. So, now I'm confused! Is anyone able to confirm one way or the other? Just curious. > > Namah Sivaya, > Iswari > > Ammachi, "Tom" <tomgull@> wrote: > > > > The Dayamrita topic has run it's course and I thank all those who've > > contributed. Thanks for his bio, but I'm well aware of it, and he's > > not an "official" sannyasin to my knowledge, or perhaps I missed his > > Initiation. It's his fans that enjoy calling him "swamiji" leading > > others to this misconclusion. > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > Mata amritanandamayi > > > ---------- -- > > > a.. Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. > > b.. > Ammachi > > c.. Terms of Service. > > > ---------- -- > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Mata amritanandamayi a.. Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. b.. Ammachi c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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