To Tom /dayamrita

March 13, 2006

What's wrong with honesty and truth? While you may not be the head

of Dayamrita's fan club, he's a fellow sadhak like anyone else and

needs to be exposed to the truth. If he's as great as you all

claim, he can handle it, believe me.

Part of the appeal of Dayamrita, that most won't admit to, is that he

has "direct access" to Amma, the way a celebrities's friends are

always shown and quoted on shows/articles.

The Mahishaasura Mardini Stotram is about Durga fighting the Buffalo

Demon (Second Episode of Chandi/chapters 2,3,4,). In this fight, the

Buffalo (the ego) is a shape shifter. The buffalo-personality gets

humbled to the Lion-personality, down to the human, and then back up

again thru the stages to be defeated. (you have to be familiar with

the story to understand). If you all respect Dayamrita, you'll stop

defending his human side so the real battle can be continued and the

goal achieved.

I did at least use "I personally" when I gave my opinion about him.

Believe me, I know he knows about me. It doesn't phase me a bit.

Someone with so much power, affecting so many should be more

discriminating in his actions.

> Also everyone is worthy of the term "ji", IMHO.

This reminds me of someone who always says, "In India, they believe

anyone who's 'on the path' to be a saint" whenever I mention a saint.

Time will show Dayamrita's status has only been held aloft by fans'

beliefs, not reality.

Suit yourself,

tom

Ammachi, "Mahamuni" <mahamuni wrote:

>

> Tom,

>

> Though while of course you are free to have your feelings and

opinions, and others may even share them, don't you think that in

this place, derrogatory postings like the one you just made about

Dayamrita--"I personally don't hold a worldly newbie like Dayamrita

to be worthy of either "swami" or "ji". Time will tell the truth"--

should not be made? This isn't the free speech zone. While I

certainly am not the head of Dayamrita's fan club, Amma certainly has

praised him many times in public, and still keeps him running

things. There is no reason to state things in such terms. If you

absolutely feel you can not refrain from stating something not

positive about him or anyone else, at least try to find nicer words

and/or a nicer way of doing it. He certainly does try to serve Amma

the best he can, as do many others. He has more on his plate than

you know of. This is also not the first time you have said negative

things about the Swamis in general.

>

> Why do you harbor so much anger and negativity? Is this where are

your lofty Spiritual and Kundalini experiences have led you? If so,

I strongly question their validity.

>

> As many great Saints, such as Christ, Amma, and Shree Maa, have

stated, what comes out of your mouth is much more important than what

goes in.

>

> Also everyone is worthy of the term "ji", IMHO.

>

> Jai Maa!

>

> Surya

March 14, 2006

Nothing wrong with honesty and truth, but again, who are you to state this type

of "truth" about someone else? How does it really help anyone?

Again, it is totally okay and fine for you to feel the way you do and have your

own opinions. But to express them publically in a forum like this is not

appropriate. At least only do it in the free speech zone group, if you insist

on expressing yourself in this way.

I have had my own positive and not so positive experiences with Dayamrita, but I

would never state the type of things you stated, and especially not in this

forum. Not only because it does not help to speak in this way about someone

else, but how about just simple, old fashioned respect. If one hasn't even

learned respect, how can they advance in spiritual life?

Surya

---- Original Message -----

Tom

Ammachi

Monday, March 13, 2006 11:28 AM

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