To Mahamuni

March 12, 2006

I know I have made my share of stupid comments on this list. But it

seems that this list has been all about bickering between someone or

other off and on for a long time.

The thing is, if you haven't noticed, when we respond to people who make

abrasive, angry comments, it just keeps them going. Not to point

fingers, but Mahamuni, you have had many lively debates with Tom.

Many years ago there was another list, the Amma-l, which fell apart

because of bickering. Many very sweet people left the list as a result,

and the list fell apart. I haven't read this list much lately because I

don't want to read arguments, or debates. I can watch TV or read a

newspaper to find debates and bad news. There is another Ammachi forum

for debating, and folks can say whatever they want. There are honestly

nicer places to be.

In the words of, I think Rodney King "can't we all just get along?"

Jai Ma!

Prasadini

Mahamuni wrote:

> Why should all of us have to go for the sake of one person? Maybe he

> should go.

> -

> Prasadini

> Ammachi

> Sunday, March 12, 2006 10:21 PM

> Re: To Tom

>

> Tom,

> Sometimes your tone can be excessively abrasive, and your complaining

> very tiresome.

> I think it's time I stopped reading this list for a while.

> Have fun in your debates y'all.

>

> nierika wrote:

> >

> > Tom wrote:

> >

> > >> ...Linda, a word of advice: I know you revere Swamiji (of Shree

> > Maa),

> > >> but this is an Ammachi board, and Swamiji's and Amma's

> teachings are

> > >> different enough in places that it's not always appropriate to

> quote

> > >> your favorite pair here...

> >

> > Amarnath wrote:

> >

> > >> i bow down to temba's INNOCENT DESIRE and amma's grace which is

> > bringing it to fruition

> >

> > >> ...i bow down to all members ~ those who complain, those who try

> > to be

> > positive, those who try to offer constructive advice, those who

> > express pain, doubts, and sometimes seeming negativity, those who

> > provide useful info, etc

> >

> > >> ...i bow down to those who left ~ Avram, Bela, others ?

> >

> > Dear Tom ~ the word usage you chose to tell me your opinion of my

> > mentioning

> > Shree Maa and Swamiji Satyananda Saraswati seems demeaning and

> > dismissive. I

> > am sad you chose to be confrontational about this.

> >

> > Dear Amarnath ~ I really appreciate what you wrote, and I believe you

> > can

> > add me to the list of those who have left.

> >

> > I will always love Ammachi. I will always love Shree Maa and Swami.

> > That is

> > my truth, however, it is also my truth that I have made a choice,

> > although I

> > wouldn't use the words Tom chose to describe it. But I have had my

> "Ah

> > Ha"

> > moment; I have had my experience of falling in love with the guru(s),

> > and though

> > I love the people here and support Amma in all She does, I believe

> it is

> > time for me to say goodbye. I will miss you.

> >

> > Jai Amma , Jai Shree Maa , Jai Swamiji , Jai the many other gurus and

> > Great

> > Souls walking the earth in these dire times ~ Linda

> >

> > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

> >

> > Mata amritanandamayi

> >

>

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> >

> ------

> >

> > * Visit your group "Ammachi

> > <Ammachi>" on the web.

> >

> > *

> > Ammachi

> > <Ammachi?subject=Un>

> >

> > * Terms of

> > Service <>.

> >

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> >

>

> Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

>

> Mata amritanandamayi

>

> a.. Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web.

>

> b..

> Ammachi

>

> c.. Terms of

> Service.

>

> Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

>

> Mata amritanandamayi

>

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March 13, 2006

I agree Prasadini. My "lively debates" with Tom have always resulted from

either really rude comments he has made towards others or even whole groups of

people, or very misleading statments he was making that may have given new

people a very wrong impression. I wanted to make sure that a different

perspective was known.

Actually sometimes it is right to respond to people making comments like this

and to stand up for things. Amma has personally affirmed this to me on more

than one occasion.

I am sorry but I am not going to listen to someone unnecessarily insult

Dayamritaji here on this public Amma forum for no good reason. If you want to

not respond to him, I certainly respect your right not too.

I kept quiet for a long time regarding Tom's posts. I truthfully don't read

many of the posts here or get too involved in most of the "debates". But when

Tom compared a whole group of devotees to pigs wallowing in their own excrement,

that drew the line for me.

Linda once told me that there are hundreds of people on this list. Who knows

how many new people are amongst them, maybe even people that have never met

Amma. I wanted them to know that there are many great Satsangs around the

country, even the D.C. one. None are perfect, but that is how it goes. The

same power struggles, etc., take place with a few people around Amma everywhere

She is. So what. Let those people go through that if that is their thing.

Smart people stay away from such things.

Anyway I've said enough and as I've said in the past, I am sorry if my tone

seems to harsh or if it has offended anyone else. As Amma said to my wife the

last time we had darshan, "His name is Surya. Sometimes he gets hot".

Jai Maa!

Surya

-

Prasadini

Ammachi

Sunday, March 12, 2006 10:51 PM

Re: To Mahamuni