Mantras: To manoj and joanna about moving on to a new guru (was Mantras+

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In general, Amma believes in one guru for life, so

there is a problem with mantras from various gurus.

If the person who wants to get a mantra talks to the

people who do mantra seva, they can answer specific

questions, all of which is subject to Amma's approval.

 

Love,

Jyotsna

 

 

 

Ammachi, nierika wrote:

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> manoj wrote (to joanna about requesting a mantra from Amma):

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> If you already have one, then the general suggestion is to stick

to

> it because at the time of initiation, a powerful bond has been

> created, and your repetitions have deepened the bond further.

Taking

> another mantra (especially from another guru) may require more

> effort to un-bond the old and bond the new before the mantra

> starts 'singing'. not a very productive strategy as you can

> see. .... but you never know, talk to Amma and explain all of this

> to her and see what she says. Grace can free up a lot of the past.

>

> if you don't already have one from Karunamayi (viz she promised to

> give a mantra but has not yet delivered because of lack of time

> etc), then I guess it's not a harm to get a mantra from Amma.

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> Dear manoj and joanna ~ I have never heard that, having received a

mantra

> from one guru, that following one's heart that leads you to another

guru would

> preclude you from asking that guru for a mantra. Even if Karunamayi

gave you

> (joanna) a mantra, I don't believe that precludes you asking for

one from

> Amma, particularly if your heart feels clear that your guru is now

Amma. You

> might want to discuss this with whatever Swami or Swamini is in

charge of the

> mantra line.

>

> I will resort to a concept that I learned from Swami Satyananda

Saraswati. I

> was fortunate to see Swamiji and Shree Maa on their last (and maybe

final) US

> tour. I watched them perform a wonderful yagya (fire ceremony) and

the bank

> of a river in Colorado and then I was fortunate to, a few weeks

later, attend

> a several days retreat in Issaqua, Washington. During a lecture,

Swami

> discussed a concept called the "upa guru." Since this process has

an actual name,

> and I trust Swamiji implicitely, I believe this concept to be

rooted in Hindu

> tradition. Even Swamiji had several gurus before he met Shree Maa.

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> The "upa guru" is the one who gives you the knowledge up to a

certain point

> where you are then drawn to another guru. The "upa guru" leads you

to your

> next guru, and maybe to the next and so on. Swamiji likened this

to being in

> school. He said, "the best gift you can give your first grade

teacher is to pass

> first grade and go to second grade; the best gift you can give

your second

> grade teacher is to pass and move on to third grade. At some point

you will

> discover your lifelong guru, who is also an "upa guru" because (S)

He leads you

> to the Supreme Guru.

>

> I would request that anyone inclined please resist the desire to

criticize

> Swamiji or Shree Maa. If there is a need to criticize someone, then

criticize

> me ... please.

>

> Jai Ma ~ Linda

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