Mantras: To manoj and joanna about moving on to a new guru (was Mantras+

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Also I want to add , someone mentioned getting mantras from few Gurus,

I believe that it depend from Whom one got it , if a person received a mantra

from Realized Master there is no need to get any other mantra , such mantras

are imbeded seeds that need to be nourished, with this seed of Guru's power that

is

transmitted with mantra there is a lot going on in once physiological and

spiritual

blueprint to which we are at times not aware , and it probably then is not

correct to

play around with such infusions, unless and once again unless a Perfect Realized

Master

Guru specifies so to His/Her Sadhaka. One quote that did stay in my mind was

Ammachi

was asked about different paths in spiritual experimentations , and this was the

response

" Why would one keep their feet in two different boats ". Ultimately I do

realize that

having this One Guru One Mantra is really much simpler solutin for humans in

already

complicated world of life and its presiding issues.

 

love , Joanna

>

> In general, Amma believes in one guru for life, so

> there is a problem with mantras from various gurus.

> If the person who wants to get a mantra talks to the

> people who do mantra seva, they can answer specific

> questions, all of which is subject to Amma's approval.

>

> Love,

> Jyotsna

>

>

>

> Ammachi, nierika@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > manoj wrote (to joanna about requesting a mantra from Amma):

> >

> > If you already have one, then the general suggestion is to stick

> to

> > it because at the time of initiation, a powerful bond has been

> > created, and your repetitions have deepened the bond further.

> Taking

> > another mantra (especially from another guru) may require more

> > effort to un-bond the old and bond the new before the mantra

> > starts 'singing'. not a very productive strategy as you can

> > see. .... but you never know, talk to Amma and explain all of this

> > to her and see what she says. Grace can free up a lot of the past.

> >

> > if you don't already have one from Karunamayi (viz she promised to

> > give a mantra but has not yet delivered because of lack of time

> > etc), then I guess it's not a harm to get a mantra from Amma.

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear manoj and joanna ~ I have never heard that, having received a

> mantra

> > from one guru, that following one's heart that leads you to another

> guru would

> > preclude you from asking that guru for a mantra. Even if Karunamayi

> gave you

> > (joanna) a mantra, I don't believe that precludes you asking for

> one from

> > Amma, particularly if your heart feels clear that your guru is now

> Amma. You

> > might want to discuss this with whatever Swami or Swamini is in

> charge of the

> > mantra line.

> >

> > I will resort to a concept that I learned from Swami Satyananda

> Saraswati. I

> > was fortunate to see Swamiji and Shree Maa on their last (and maybe

> final) US

> > tour. I watched them perform a wonderful yagya (fire ceremony) and

> the bank

> > of a river in Colorado and then I was fortunate to, a few weeks

> later, attend

> > a several days retreat in Issaqua, Washington. During a lecture,

> Swami

> > discussed a concept called the "upa guru." Since this process has

> an actual name,

> > and I trust Swamiji implicitely, I believe this concept to be

> rooted in Hindu

> > tradition. Even Swamiji had several gurus before he met Shree Maa.

> >

> > The "upa guru" is the one who gives you the knowledge up to a

> certain point

> > where you are then drawn to another guru. The "upa guru" leads you

> to your

> > next guru, and maybe to the next and so on. Swamiji likened this

> to being in

> > school. He said, "the best gift you can give your first grade

> teacher is to pass

> > first grade and go to second grade; the best gift you can give

> your second

> > grade teacher is to pass and move on to third grade. At some point

> you will

> > discover your lifelong guru, who is also an "upa guru" because (S)

> He leads you

> > to the Supreme Guru.

> >

> > I would request that anyone inclined please resist the desire to

> criticize

> > Swamiji or Shree Maa. If there is a need to criticize someone, then

> criticize

> > me ... please.

> >

> > Jai Ma ~ Linda

> >

> >

> >

> >

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