Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Om Namah Shivaya: This is the exact quote from Amritapuri.com Amma said: "Whatever it may be, when you insult someone's form of worship, it will be painful for them,If someone draw's your wife or your mother in the nude or in a ridiculing manner, is there anyone who will not feel bad? No, they will be hurt. Whether God exists or not is not the question. They [the Muslims] have a certain sankalpa [conviction] regarding God; if someone mocks that, it will wound them. Could discussion stay on Her words? Why go off on the tangent of Arab "behavior" Does Amma condone violence? Of course not. However offensive cartoons are adharmic as well. My two rupees worth again. Namah Shivaya, GeorgeSon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 What is it that you don't understand? Please use your intelligence. Amma is pretty much saying that people get hurt for various reasons and they react based upon their samsakaras. She never says reaction is good, she says respond but not react. Ammachi, "jmcs_06" <jmcs_06 wrote: > > > GeorgeSon, Many people and Amma devotees have a very hard time > understanding why many devotees of the Muslim/Islamic religion > condone and promote horrible violence in response to others' > differing opinions in regards to differing outlooks in regard to > their religion or politics... Perhaps Amma Herself needs to better > explain to us what She thinks about this stuff--She holds us > accountable for our thoughts and actions, and perhaps we too should > hold Her accountable, as Satguru, for her words and explanations to > us and to the world. She is notorious for telling/promising people > things that don't come true, and for saying confusing, ambiguous > things. I ask Amma to clear things so we all can better understand. > > Om Shanti, > Jeanette/Kalika > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Namah Shivaya, I think Mother was just trying to give us some understanding, and trying to encourage us to be better people. The rest we have discussed before, and I ain't goin' there. Jai Ma! Prasadini jmcs_06 wrote: > Ammachi, GeorgeSon <leokomor wrote: > > > > Om Namah Shivaya: > > > > This is the exact quote from Amritapuri.com > > Amma said: > > > > "Whatever it may be, when you insult > > someone's form of worship, it will be > > painful for them,If someone > > draw's your wife or your mother in the nude > > or in a ridiculing manner, is there anyone > > who will not feel bad? No, they will be hurt. > > Whether God exists or not is not the question. > > They [the Muslims] have a certain sankalpa > > [conviction] regarding God; if someone mocks > > that, it will wound them. > > > > Could discussion stay on Her words? Why go > > off on the tangent of Arab "behavior" > > > > Does Amma condone violence? Of course not. > > However offensive cartoons are adharmic as well. > > My two rupees worth again. > > > > Namah Shivaya, > > > > GeorgeSon > > GeorgeSon, Many people and Amma devotees have a very hard time > understanding why many devotees of the Muslim/Islamic religion > condone and promote horrible violence in response to others' > differing opinions in regards to differing outlooks in regard to > their religion or politics... Perhaps Amma Herself needs to better > explain to us what She thinks about this stuff--She holds us > accountable for our thoughts and actions, and perhaps we too should > hold Her accountable, as Satguru, for her words and explanations to > us and to the world. She is notorious for telling/promising people > things that don't come true, and for saying confusing, ambiguous > things. I ask Amma to clear things so we all can better understand. > > Om Shanti, > Jeanette/Kalika > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > Mata amritanandamayi > </gads?t=ms&k=Mata+amritanandamayi&w1=Mata+amritanandamay\ i&c=1&s=26&.sig=DYRmPW4tjbUZrNprNMY6xw> > > > > ------ > > > * Visit your group "Ammachi > <Ammachi>" on the web. > > * > Ammachi > <Ammachi?subject=Un> > > * Terms of > Service <>. > > > ------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Amma made briliant answer back, I dont understand what is there not to understand , I mean the whole religious historical background of Semitic religions on the overall is certainly very violent however so far violence or mockery from any point of view is not the answer , Amma sad once beautifully " Revolution starts in heart " only then the circumstances of the world can change, it is a slow process after centuries of notorious hate wars the change will not happen overnight however with Amma's blessings it is a step forward . I strongly belief that if each one of us continues with prayers sadhana , compassionate behavior in our communities there is hope for change . At times it might seem overwhelming and one might feel hopeless that is why Amma is Here to give us strength and hope . Namste Joanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Unfortunately I cannot, it's my samsakara to respond to anyone who posts idiotic comments on my mother viz * "condone and promote horrible violence" * "hold Her accountable" * "notorious for telling/promising things" * "saying confusing, ambiguous things" nothanks, Ravi Ammachi, "jmcs_06" <jmcs_06 wrote: > > Ravi, Please try to refrain from saying patronizing words > like "please use your intelligence" in the future...thanks, J. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Ammachi, "jmcs_06" <jmcs_06 wrote: > She is notorious for telling/promising people > things that don't come true, and for saying confusing, ambiguous > things. I ask Amma to clear things so we all can better understand. > > Om Shanti, > Jeanette/Kalika Namaste Kalika, What you said above, from all my 10.5 years experience with Amma, is simply not the truth for me ~ or at least not the way you put it. Sometimes, there is confusion on my part but if I hang in there, things clear up. What each one of us holds as the truth is obviously different because our experiences are different and also our perceptions even of the same experiences are different due to the filter of our different egoic-minds( which all of us are trying to purify ). Actually, my truth is just the opposite. When Amma told my partner Samarpana that we could go to Amritapuri, India, for Her Birthday, I thought that both of them were crazy( sorry Amma ). Let me explain, Samarpana has fear of flying, fear of all public transportation, and many phobias; the only way she got around was by driving ~ not someone driving her but she has to be the driver. And there were other considerations. I really felt very tense, uncomfortable, fearful and did not know what to do. A few days later, I called just to find out how much the tickets were and ended up with two tickets to India. Then I knew that I was crazy too and it did not matter because Amma seemed to be in charge. This is where FAITH helps a lot. I am a worry- er( not a warrior ) and to keep my sanity I simply had to surrender feeling that Amma was the doer ~ this somehow gave me strenght. Well, to make the long story short, we did it and stayed for 5.5 months rather than the 2 months we planned. It was not easy and what got us througth was silently chanting almost continuously our mantras, 108 names, 1000 names and praying a lot. hope this helps. Amma's Blessings, amarnath May All Beings Be Peaceful and Happy ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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