Guest guest Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 Given that the mantra given by Mother is supercharged- with Her we can be realized in a second. Japaing away--- Sweta Mitzel wrote: > Amma saiys that when we keep chanting our mantras, it'sll bring us to > that state. They must make some powerful connections in our brains. > > Prasadini <ganesh1008 wrote: Namah Shivaya, > All of this reminds me of the movie "What the bleep do we know" in which > they explained how we can keep going > to the same feeling state(thoughts) out of habit. Their model is that > the nerve pathways are > very well established to these negative thoughts or part of the brain.. > The way out of it is to establish new pathways to positive thoughts, and > eventually these nerve pathways are > more established and the old pathways gradually fade away. > I would imagine that the way we process information has to do with the > established pathways - i.e. habitual thoughts. > The thing is, these are actual nerve pathways and not some vague airy > fairy flitting butterfly like things. > As someone said to me long ago, "I wish I could just drop my head off at > the shop to be fixed, and I'll > pick it up on Thursday". > So the more we meditate, the more we establish ourselves in a loving > frame of mind, the more we can > stay there, come from there. > Mostly I wish there was less of ME. > > > > nierika wrote: > > > > Dear menoj_menon, > > > > I believe what you have crafted by your own experience and observation > > is > > very worthwhile and very much related to the topic of Amma and > > spirituality. I > > believe your distinction between "automatic thoughts" and > > "self-directed" > > thought is very significance, and I have actually come across this > > distinction > > in other contexts, one the field of psychology, the other, the field of > > shamanism. > > > > In Cognitive (slash Behavioral) Psychology (e.g., Dr. Phil), the > > important > > thing is to become aware of what you are saying to yourself when you > > are not > > "thinking" In other words, what are your automatic thoughts? These > > are usually > > the ones that get us into the most trouble; they are often self > > negating or > > negating of others; they often run around in circles like a gerbil on a > > wheel. Interestingly, the same distinction also exists within the > > context of > > shamanism, especially as taught by Don Juan. Don Juan was always > > telling Carlos > > Casteneda to be aware of his "inner dialog." Without conscious > > awareness of this > > "inner dialog," which as I said, is often at worst, self-negating, > > and, at > > best, cycling nonsense ... as I have cycled 'round and 'round on the > > thought > > "my mother took my money." > > > > Does the thought change anything? Does it communicate anything to my > > mother? > > Does it help me in any way? No, No and No. The more I think it, the > > worse I > > feel. When one becomes aware of the inner dialog, then one can begin > > to think > > consciously, with direction, and thus thoughts become like horses who > > love > > us and will do whatever we ask of them. They will help us complete a > > task. They > > will help us begin a task. They will give us the motive energy to go > in a > > new and unfamiliar direction. > > > > I am also glad that you included ideas and intuition in your map of the > > inner workings of the mind. As I was reading what you wrote, my > > thoughts were > > saying, "but, but, but ... but what about those times when I am > creating > > something." What I have discovered is that my most creative time > > occurs when there > > is nothing else going on. There is nothing I have to give my attention > > to; > > there is nothing I have to do. (Actually, there may be plenty I have > > to do, but > > if I can put myself in this open-ended mode ... all kinds of creative > > things > > pour out of me.) At some point, this becomes related to what you refer > > to as > > directed thinking. I am doing nothing. I am wandering around. I am > > noticing or > > feeling and suddenly, the words to a song or a poem appear in my head. I > > grab for the nearest pen and paper and start writing it down. This is > > not > > automatic thinking but it may be akin to automatic writing, because I > > really feel I > > am just a channel. > > > > Lots of good food for thought. Thank you ~ Linda P.S. I don't agree > > that > > 100% of our time should be spent in self-directed thinking because it > > is in the > > thoughtless open space kind of "time," which I actually experience > as no > > time, that most of my creativity flows from. But, to get that > > creativity to the > > next level ... to get the painting hung in a gallery; to get that song > > on the > > top 40, that takes directed thinking, and I have been better at the > > former > > than the latter. Now I am working on the directed part. > > > > > > menoj_menon wrote: > > > > >> Before defining Thought, let's examine 2 types of thought. > > >> 1. Automatic Thought. > > >> These are the biggest killers of time and energy. These are thoughts > > >> that flip through our thinking apparatus during times when we > have no > > >> sense of purpose. Times can be as short as seconds, or minutes, or > > >> even years. > > > > >> ...Properties of such thought: > > >> a. There is no "sense of purpose" > > >> b. It is a waste of time and energy. > > >> c. Is a result of an unsure "state of being" > > >> d. Is wishing for a "later" instead of being in the "now" > > > > >> ...2. Self-directed (or Conscious) Thought. > > >> This is when we are consciously involved in thinking...THIS IS A > VERY > > >> HEALTHY USE OF TIME, and ideally all 100% of our time should be > > >> spent in such Self-directed thinking. > > > > >>...Properties of such thought: > > >> a. Purposeful. > > >> b. Serves atleast oneself, or others, or both. > > >> c. are a result of a sure "state of being" > > >> d. is in the "now" > > >> e. Healthy distribution channel for our energy. > > > > >> ...An idea comes from the intuitive and spiritual domain of > > ourselves. It > > >> is a unique abstraction of the environment. > > >> Somewhat tough to explain, and can only be understood by a question. > > >> for e.g. WHAT REALLY IS A MANGO? and WHAT REALLY IS SWEET? Everybody > > >> has a different unique understanding of mango and its sweetness, and > > >> what sweetness really is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > * Visit your group "Ammachi > > <Ammachi>" on the web. > > > > * > > Ammachi > > <Ammachi?subject=Un> > > > > * Terms of > > Service <>. > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > Mata > amritanandamayi > > > > > > Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. > > > Ammachi > > > > > > Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more > on new and used cars. > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > ------ > > > * Visit your group "Ammachi > <Ammachi>" on the web. > > * > Ammachi > <Ammachi?subject=Un> > > * Terms of > Service <>. > > > ------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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