Guest guest Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 thankyou for being so open and willing.YOU ARE LOVE.YOU DIDNT SAY THIS.LOVE DID.AMMA IS LOVE IS AMMA IS AMMA IS LOVE.MA MA MAA MA MA MA MA MA MA MA MA MA AMMA MA MA MA MA MA MA AMMA MA IS LOVE IS AMMA IS AMMA IS LOVE IS KAILIKA IS LOVE IS AMMA...... >"jmcs_06" <jmcs_06 >Ammachi >Ammachi > Re: damaged people, and other topics >Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:19:40 -0000 > >Much thanks to Krsnasara (Sarah) for telling what you too >experienced and for such compassionate understanding and response to >my email, and to Tembla Spirits for compassionate perspective and >things to think about as well this weekend, and thanks to others for >sharing their thoughts. > >As for the discussion about predatory/damaged people that abuse or >burn us: yes, they have issues and need love and healing, just like >the rest of us, and we see God in them as we do in ourselves and >love them; however, it is wise to practice wisdom and discernment in >our relationships with people and not be naive about what harm some >people can inflict on others, adults or children. (Mothers protect >fiercely sometimes from predators as well as bestowing love and >compassion and discipline). > >As for the topic of spiritually advanced people: "Spiritually >advanced" people from all the various cultures come in all forms, >shapes, mannerisms, and personalities: they could be joyful and >childlike, aloof and quiet, inquisitive and questioning, >intellectual and dry, social or not social, financially poor or >rich, employed or unemployed, nice tempers or more volatile tempers, >have a sordid past or have a "clean" past,etc....I think you catch >my drift...I have no definition of a spiritually advanced person >except to say they are human like the rest of us yet see God in >themselves and the rest of the world but they don't always fit into >preconceived concepts...i.e. "don't judge a book by its cover"... > >As for my saying to GeorgeSon that "he thinks he's a beginner but >he's no more than a beginner than the rest of us" I was implying >that we are ALL BEGINNERS in many ways, and that none of us should >bother comparing ourselves to others or consider ourselves more or >less spiritually advanced than others. > >Hope you all had a good weekend full of blessings and moments of joy! > > >love, Kalika > > > >Ammachi, sarah smith <sarahkauai@h...> wrote: > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > > > Someone like the man described below, needs a healing, and if he > > received darshan from Mother, which she would not refuse, he's on >a > > better path than previous. > > > > But what a painful experience for those of us who trust, then get > > "burned." How does one discern AND keep an open heart? This is >the > > dilemma. > > > > This is an issue that I have had to deal with since the occurrence >of > > an incident two years ago. I started dating a man, a Yoga teacher. >He > > chanted the Gayatri mantra all day, seemed pretty pure, on a > > righteous path.... > > > > Come to learn later that he molested my daughter, (once, only, >thank > > Goddess) who was three at the time. I only let him watch her >once, > > for about forty minutes, while I took a much needed walk at >sunset. > > He was cooking dinner. She was occupied, watching a video. As soon >as > > I left, he pounced. > > A week later, ridden with guilt and fear, I suppose, he broke up >with > > me in the the most illogical, abrupt way and literally fled the > > island, not saying goodbye to anyone. Just poof! gone. > > > > A few months later the truth was revealed, as I had my daughter >in > > therapy after aberrant behavior was cited at preschool. All I >wanted > > was to track him down and hold him accountable. Some wise >advisors > > told me to let it go, concentrate on my daughter's healing, and >trust > > that he will, one day, in some form, "face the music." > > (He's very elusive, anyhow, living out of his van in the Sierra > > Nevadas in summer, surfing in warmer climates in winter.... in >case > > anyone recognises this description.) > > > > I guess I needed to get this story off my chest. Also, I wish to >show > > compassion to the sister who had the experience described below, >or > > anyone else who has been the unfortunate recipient of such abuses. >I > > come to this group with solemnness and have observed that certain > > people like to respond with sarcasm and cynicism. To me, this >adds > > insult to injury and is against Mother's teachings. > > This does not mean that I do not have a sense of humor. My > > understanding of this group is that we are a satsang. Satsang >means > > "keeping company with like-minded people." But compassion is the >key, > > is it not? The wise cracks are for the benefit of the speaker > > (writer), but how do they serve the group? Or the individual who > > brings their painful experience to the table? Or the planet? Or >Mother? > > > > Seeking to serve Mother, > > > > Krsnasara > > >Ammachi, sarah smith <sarahkauai@h...> wrote: > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > > > Someone like the man described below, needs a healing, and if he > > received darshan from Mother, which she would not refuse, he's on >a > > better path than previous. > > > > But what a painful experience for those of us who trust, then get > > "burned." How does one discern AND keep an open heart? This is >the > > dilemma. > > > > This is an issue that I have had to deal with since the occurrence >of > > an incident two years ago. I started dating a man, a Yoga teacher. >He > > chanted the Gayatri mantra all day, seemed pretty pure, on a > > righteous path.... > > > > Come to learn later that he molested my daughter, (once, only, >thank > > Goddess) who was three at the time. I only let him watch her >once, > > for about forty minutes, while I took a much needed walk at >sunset. > > He was cooking dinner. She was occupied, watching a video. As soon >as > > I left, he pounced. > > A week later, ridden with guilt and fear, I suppose, he broke up >with > > me in the the most illogical, abrupt way and literally fled the > > island, not saying goodbye to anyone. Just poof! gone. > > > > A few months later the truth was revealed, as I had my daughter >in > > therapy after aberrant behavior was cited at preschool. All I >wanted > > was to track him down and hold him accountable. Some wise >advisors > > told me to let it go, concentrate on my daughter's healing, and >trust > > that he will, one day, in some form, "face the music." > > (He's very elusive, anyhow, living out of his van in the Sierra > > Nevadas in summer, surfing in warmer climates in winter.... in >case > > anyone recognises this description.) > > > > I guess I needed to get this story off my chest. Also, I wish to >show > > compassion to the sister who had the experience described below, >or > > anyone else who has been the unfortunate recipient of such abuses. >I > > come to this group with solemnness and have observed that certain > > people like to respond with sarcasm and cynicism. To me, this >adds > > insult to injury and is against Mother's teachings. > > This does not mean that I do not have a sense of humor. My > > understanding of this group is that we are a satsang. Satsang >means > > "keeping company with like-minded people." But compassion is the >key, > > is it not? The wise cracks are for the benefit of the speaker > > (writer), but how do they serve the group? Or the individual who > > brings their painful experience to the table? Or the planet? Or >Mother? > > > > Seeking to serve Mother, > > > > Krsnasara > > > > > > On Jan 14, 2006, at 5:43 AM, Ammachi wrote: > > > > > jmcs_06 wrote: > > >> I met a man at one of Amma's programs in Santa Fe several years >ago. > > >> He seemed very spiritually-oriented, nice, fun, handsome, >charming, > > >> loving, and was financially blessed and had a nice house... >Later, > > >> after getting to know him better, I found out he was an angry >sex > > >> addict and pedophile cruising the programs and other spiritual > > >> gatherings to find a "love relationship"! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.