Guest guest Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Om Namah Shivaya, Someone like the man described below, needs a healing, and if he received darshan from Mother, which she would not refuse, he's on a better path than previous. But what a painful experience for those of us who trust, then get "burned." How does one discern AND keep an open heart? This is the dilemma. This is an issue that I have had to deal with since the occurrence of an incident two years ago. I started dating a man, a Yoga teacher. He chanted the Gayatri mantra all day, seemed pretty pure, on a righteous path.... Come to learn later that he molested my daughter, (once, only, thank Goddess) who was three at the time. I only let him watch her once, for about forty minutes, while I took a much needed walk at sunset. He was cooking dinner. She was occupied, watching a video. As soon as I left, he pounced. A week later, ridden with guilt and fear, I suppose, he broke up with me in the the most illogical, abrupt way and literally fled the island, not saying goodbye to anyone. Just poof! gone. A few months later the truth was revealed, as I had my daughter in therapy after aberrant behavior was cited at preschool. All I wanted was to track him down and hold him accountable. Some wise advisors told me to let it go, concentrate on my daughter's healing, and trust that he will, one day, in some form, "face the music." (He's very elusive, anyhow, living out of his van in the Sierra Nevadas in summer, surfing in warmer climates in winter.... in case anyone recognises this description.) I guess I needed to get this story off my chest. Also, I wish to show compassion to the sister who had the experience described below, or anyone else who has been the unfortunate recipient of such abuses. I come to this group with solemnness and have observed that certain people like to respond with sarcasm and cynicism. To me, this adds insult to injury and is against Mother's teachings. This does not mean that I do not have a sense of humor. My understanding of this group is that we are a satsang. Satsang means "keeping company with like-minded people." But compassion is the key, is it not? The wise cracks are for the benefit of the speaker (writer), but how do they serve the group? Or the individual who brings their painful experience to the table? Or the planet? Or Mother? Seeking to serve Mother, Krsnasara On Jan 14, 2006, at 5:43 AM, Ammachi wrote: > jmcs_06 wrote: >> I met a man at one of Amma's programs in Santa Fe several years ago. >> He seemed very spiritually-oriented, nice, fun, handsome, charming, >> loving, and was financially blessed and had a nice house... Later, >> after getting to know him better, I found out he was an angry sex >> addict and pedophile cruising the programs and other spiritual >> gatherings to find a "love relationship"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 I agree. Also I feel that these people who we might label "monsters" have their own personal issues and inner problems, they need help. Some people though do not feel guilty at all for what they do, and are just greedy self-serving people but I think some people with these issues do feel guilty and have great inner struggle over it. - "sarah smith" <sarahkauai <Ammachi> Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:54 AM damaged people > Om Namah Shivaya, > > Someone like the man described below, needs a healing, and if he > received darshan from Mother, which she would not refuse, he's on a > better path than previous. > > But what a painful experience for those of us who trust, then get > "burned." How does one discern AND keep an open heart? This is the > dilemma. > > This is an issue that I have had to deal with since the occurrence of > an incident two years ago. I started dating a man, a Yoga teacher. He > chanted the Gayatri mantra all day, seemed pretty pure, on a > righteous path.... > > Come to learn later that he molested my daughter, (once, only, thank > Goddess) who was three at the time. I only let him watch her once, > for about forty minutes, while I took a much needed walk at sunset. > He was cooking dinner. She was occupied, watching a video. As soon as > I left, he pounced. > A week later, ridden with guilt and fear, I suppose, he broke up with > me in the the most illogical, abrupt way and literally fled the > island, not saying goodbye to anyone. Just poof! gone. > > A few months later the truth was revealed, as I had my daughter in > therapy after aberrant behavior was cited at preschool. All I wanted > was to track him down and hold him accountable. Some wise advisors > told me to let it go, concentrate on my daughter's healing, and trust > that he will, one day, in some form, "face the music." > (He's very elusive, anyhow, living out of his van in the Sierra > Nevadas in summer, surfing in warmer climates in winter.... in case > anyone recognises this description.) > > I guess I needed to get this story off my chest. Also, I wish to show > compassion to the sister who had the experience described below, or > anyone else who has been the unfortunate recipient of such abuses. I > come to this group with solemnness and have observed that certain > people like to respond with sarcasm and cynicism. To me, this adds > insult to injury and is against Mother's teachings. > This does not mean that I do not have a sense of humor. My > understanding of this group is that we are a satsang. Satsang means > "keeping company with like-minded people." But compassion is the key, > is it not? The wise cracks are for the benefit of the speaker > (writer), but how do they serve the group? Or the individual who > brings their painful experience to the table? Or the planet? Or Mother? > > Seeking to serve Mother, > > Krsnasara > > > On Jan 14, 2006, at 5:43 AM, Ammachi wrote: > >> jmcs_06 wrote: >>> I met a man at one of Amma's programs in Santa Fe several years ago. >>> He seemed very spiritually-oriented, nice, fun, handsome, charming, >>> loving, and was financially blessed and had a nice house... Later, >>> after getting to know him better, I found out he was an angry sex >>> addict and pedophile cruising the programs and other spiritual >>> gatherings to find a "love relationship"! > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > Links > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 dearest beloved sister sarah and darling daughter of AMMA.AMMAs son would like to thankyou for the deepness and fearlessness of your heart that allowed you to share this moving experience of your life.through your sharing you have touched AMMAs son and inspired him to not be afraid of anything.when you share so openly and fearlessly ,you allow OUR ENTIRE COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS TO INHERIT DEPTH.AMMAs son bows to you and appreciates with all his heart that you have shared something as authentic as this.I AM LOVE YOU. >sarah smith <sarahkauai >Ammachi >Ammachi > damaged people >Sat, 14 Jan 2006 07:54:20 -1000 > >Om Namah Shivaya, > >Someone like the man described below, needs a healing, and if he >received darshan from Mother, which she would not refuse, he's on a >better path than previous. > >But what a painful experience for those of us who trust, then get >"burned." How does one discern AND keep an open heart? This is the >dilemma. > >This is an issue that I have had to deal with since the occurrence of >an incident two years ago. I started dating a man, a Yoga teacher. He >chanted the Gayatri mantra all day, seemed pretty pure, on a >righteous path.... > >Come to learn later that he molested my daughter, (once, only, thank >Goddess) who was three at the time. I only let him watch her once, >for about forty minutes, while I took a much needed walk at sunset. >He was cooking dinner. She was occupied, watching a video. As soon as >I left, he pounced. >A week later, ridden with guilt and fear, I suppose, he broke up with >me in the the most illogical, abrupt way and literally fled the >island, not saying goodbye to anyone. Just poof! gone. > >A few months later the truth was revealed, as I had my daughter in >therapy after aberrant behavior was cited at preschool. All I wanted >was to track him down and hold him accountable. Some wise advisors >told me to let it go, concentrate on my daughter's healing, and trust >that he will, one day, in some form, "face the music." >(He's very elusive, anyhow, living out of his van in the Sierra >Nevadas in summer, surfing in warmer climates in winter.... in case >anyone recognises this description.) > >I guess I needed to get this story off my chest. Also, I wish to show >compassion to the sister who had the experience described below, or >anyone else who has been the unfortunate recipient of such abuses. I >come to this group with solemnness and have observed that certain >people like to respond with sarcasm and cynicism. To me, this adds >insult to injury and is against Mother's teachings. >This does not mean that I do not have a sense of humor. My >understanding of this group is that we are a satsang. Satsang means >"keeping company with like-minded people." But compassion is the key, >is it not? The wise cracks are for the benefit of the speaker >(writer), but how do they serve the group? Or the individual who >brings their painful experience to the table? Or the planet? Or Mother? > >Seeking to serve Mother, > >Krsnasara > > >On Jan 14, 2006, at 5:43 AM, Ammachi wrote: > > > jmcs_06 wrote: > >> I met a man at one of Amma's programs in Santa Fe several years ago. > >> He seemed very spiritually-oriented, nice, fun, handsome, charming, > >> loving, and was financially blessed and had a nice house... Later, > >> after getting to know him better, I found out he was an angry sex > >> addict and pedophile cruising the programs and other spiritual > >> gatherings to find a "love relationship"! > > > > > _______________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Good to see you back, Themba. Did you receive the present I sent you? Pahari Maa On Jan 14, 2006, at 6:44 PM, temba spirits wrote: > dearest beloved sister sarah and darling daughter of AMMA.AMMAs son > would > like to thankyou for the deepness and fearlessness of your heart that > allowed you to share this moving experience of your life.through your > sharing you have touched AMMAs son and inspired him to not be afraid of > anything.when you share so openly and fearlessly ,you allow OUR ENTIRE > COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS TO INHERIT DEPTH.AMMAs son bows to you and > appreciates with all his heart that you have shared something as > authentic > as this.I AM LOVE YOU. > > >> sarah smith <sarahkauai >> Ammachi >> Ammachi >> damaged people >> Sat, 14 Jan 2006 07:54:20 -1000 >> >> Om Namah Shivaya, >> >> Someone like the man described below, needs a healing, and if he >> received darshan from Mother, which she would not refuse, he's on a >> better path than previous. >> >> But what a painful experience for those of us who trust, then get >> "burned." How does one discern AND keep an open heart? This is the >> dilemma. >> >> This is an issue that I have had to deal with since the occurrence of >> an incident two years ago. I started dating a man, a Yoga teacher. He >> chanted the Gayatri mantra all day, seemed pretty pure, on a >> righteous path.... >> >> Come to learn later that he molested my daughter, (once, only, thank >> Goddess) who was three at the time. I only let him watch her once, >> for about forty minutes, while I took a much needed walk at sunset. >> He was cooking dinner. She was occupied, watching a video. As soon as >> I left, he pounced. >> A week later, ridden with guilt and fear, I suppose, he broke up with >> me in the the most illogical, abrupt way and literally fled the >> island, not saying goodbye to anyone. Just poof! gone. >> >> A few months later the truth was revealed, as I had my daughter in >> therapy after aberrant behavior was cited at preschool. All I wanted >> was to track him down and hold him accountable. Some wise advisors >> told me to let it go, concentrate on my daughter's healing, and trust >> that he will, one day, in some form, "face the music." >> (He's very elusive, anyhow, living out of his van in the Sierra >> Nevadas in summer, surfing in warmer climates in winter.... in case >> anyone recognises this description.) >> >> I guess I needed to get this story off my chest. Also, I wish to show >> compassion to the sister who had the experience described below, or >> anyone else who has been the unfortunate recipient of such abuses. I >> come to this group with solemnness and have observed that certain >> people like to respond with sarcasm and cynicism. To me, this adds >> insult to injury and is against Mother's teachings. >> This does not mean that I do not have a sense of humor. My >> understanding of this group is that we are a satsang. Satsang means >> "keeping company with like-minded people." But compassion is the key, >> is it not? The wise cracks are for the benefit of the speaker >> (writer), but how do they serve the group? Or the individual who >> brings their painful experience to the table? Or the planet? Or >> Mother? >> >> Seeking to serve Mother, >> >> Krsnasara >> >> >> On Jan 14, 2006, at 5:43 AM, Ammachi wrote: >> >>> jmcs_06 wrote: >>>> I met a man at one of Amma's programs in Santa Fe several years ago. >>>> He seemed very spiritually-oriented, nice, fun, handsome, charming, >>>> loving, and was financially blessed and had a nice house... Later, >>>> after getting to know him better, I found out he was an angry sex >>>> addict and pedophile cruising the programs and other spiritual >>>> gatherings to find a "love relationship"! >> >> >> >> >> > > _______________ > Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > Links > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 AMMAs son has witnessed societys so-called worse repond to LOVE AND COMPASSION.not just one or two people but over one hundred in one space.AMMAs son refused to look at their faults,he continuely disciplined himself to search for the good ,which can be a challenge after getting burned.AMMAs son has done the BURNING and been BURNED.he is greatful for the experience of both worlds.just because a person does not express REMORSE OR GUILT ON THE OUTSIDE DOES NOT MEAN THAT THERE IS NONE PRESENT.my daughter hid her feelings for years and then she tried to kill herself.she would cry in her room and then come out with a smile on her face.we should be cautious not to think that we truly know what a person is feeling just because they do not express is outwardly. THE BEST THING IS TO BE AWARE IF WE ARE AROUND SOMEONE THAT NEEDS TO BE OBSERVED IN A CAREFUL WAY,HOWEVER WE SHOULD STILL STRIVE TO SEE GOD WORKING THROUGH THEM. IF WE GET BURNED AND OUR HEARTS CLOSE UP THEN THAT IS ON US ,NOT ON THE PERSON THAT BURNED US.WHAT DO WE OWN ANYWAY? DO WE NOT SAY THAT IT IS ALL MOTHERS?IF SOMETHING CAN BE TAKEN FROM YOU THEN IT WAS NEVER YOURS IN THE FIRST PLACE.WE CAME TO THIS PLANE WITH NOTHING AND WE WILL LEAVE IT WITH NOTHING.OWNWERSHIP IS BONDAGE. ACTUALLY WE CAME TO THIS PLANE WITH EVERYTHING.MOTHER HAS ALWAYS BEEN WITH US AND SHE WILL NEVER WILL DEPART FROM THAT PROMISE. SOMETIMES WE LOOSE AWARENESS OF WHAT IS REAL,OR BETTER YET ,WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.AMMA IS LOVE AND SO ARE YOU >"D" <dises05 >Ammachi ><Ammachi> >Re: damaged people >Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:33:42 -0600 > >I agree. > >Also I feel that these people who we might label "monsters" have their own >personal issues and inner problems, they need help. Some people though do >not feel guilty at all for what they do, and are just greedy self-serving >people but I think some people with these issues do feel guilty and have >great inner struggle over it. >- >"sarah smith" <sarahkauai ><Ammachi> >Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:54 AM > damaged people > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > > > Someone like the man described below, needs a healing, and if he > > received darshan from Mother, which she would not refuse, he's on a > > better path than previous. > > > > But what a painful experience for those of us who trust, then get > > "burned." How does one discern AND keep an open heart? This is the > > dilemma. > > > > This is an issue that I have had to deal with since the occurrence of > > an incident two years ago. I started dating a man, a Yoga teacher. He > > chanted the Gayatri mantra all day, seemed pretty pure, on a > > righteous path.... > > > > Come to learn later that he molested my daughter, (once, only, thank > > Goddess) who was three at the time. I only let him watch her once, > > for about forty minutes, while I took a much needed walk at sunset. > > He was cooking dinner. She was occupied, watching a video. As soon as > > I left, he pounced. > > A week later, ridden with guilt and fear, I suppose, he broke up with > > me in the the most illogical, abrupt way and literally fled the > > island, not saying goodbye to anyone. Just poof! gone. > > > > A few months later the truth was revealed, as I had my daughter in > > therapy after aberrant behavior was cited at preschool. All I wanted > > was to track him down and hold him accountable. Some wise advisors > > told me to let it go, concentrate on my daughter's healing, and trust > > that he will, one day, in some form, "face the music." > > (He's very elusive, anyhow, living out of his van in the Sierra > > Nevadas in summer, surfing in warmer climates in winter.... in case > > anyone recognises this description.) > > > > I guess I needed to get this story off my chest. Also, I wish to show > > compassion to the sister who had the experience described below, or > > anyone else who has been the unfortunate recipient of such abuses. I > > come to this group with solemnness and have observed that certain > > people like to respond with sarcasm and cynicism. To me, this adds > > insult to injury and is against Mother's teachings. > > This does not mean that I do not have a sense of humor. My > > understanding of this group is that we are a satsang. Satsang means > > "keeping company with like-minded people." But compassion is the key, > > is it not? The wise cracks are for the benefit of the speaker > > (writer), but how do they serve the group? Or the individual who > > brings their painful experience to the table? Or the planet? Or Mother? > > > > Seeking to serve Mother, > > > > Krsnasara > > > > > > On Jan 14, 2006, at 5:43 AM, Ammachi wrote: > > > >> jmcs_06 wrote: > >>> I met a man at one of Amma's programs in Santa Fe several years ago. > >>> He seemed very spiritually-oriented, nice, fun, handsome, charming, > >>> loving, and was financially blessed and had a nice house... Later, > >>> after getting to know him better, I found out he was an angry sex > >>> addict and pedophile cruising the programs and other spiritual > >>> gatherings to find a "love relationship"! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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Guest guest Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 YES AMMAs son did and AMMAs son loves it.please forgive AMMAs son he thought that he mailed you and told you that he got it.AMMAs son is not back,he has never moved from his home in your heart. >Ardis Jackson <ardis1 >Ammachi >Ammachi >Re: damaged people >Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:16:42 -0800 > >Good to see you back, Themba. > >Did you receive the present I sent you? > >Pahari Maa > > >On Jan 14, 2006, at 6:44 PM, temba spirits wrote: > > > dearest beloved sister sarah and darling daughter of AMMA.AMMAs son > > would > > like to thankyou for the deepness and fearlessness of your heart that > > allowed you to share this moving experience of your life.through your > > sharing you have touched AMMAs son and inspired him to not be afraid of > > anything.when you share so openly and fearlessly ,you allow OUR ENTIRE > > COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS TO INHERIT DEPTH.AMMAs son bows to you and > > appreciates with all his heart that you have shared something as > > authentic > > as this.I AM LOVE YOU. > > > > > >> sarah smith <sarahkauai > >> Ammachi > >> Ammachi > >> damaged people > >> Sat, 14 Jan 2006 07:54:20 -1000 > >> > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > >> > >> Someone like the man described below, needs a healing, and if he > >> received darshan from Mother, which she would not refuse, he's on a > >> better path than previous. > >> > >> But what a painful experience for those of us who trust, then get > >> "burned." How does one discern AND keep an open heart? This is the > >> dilemma. > >> > >> This is an issue that I have had to deal with since the occurrence of > >> an incident two years ago. I started dating a man, a Yoga teacher. He > >> chanted the Gayatri mantra all day, seemed pretty pure, on a > >> righteous path.... > >> > >> Come to learn later that he molested my daughter, (once, only, thank > >> Goddess) who was three at the time. I only let him watch her once, > >> for about forty minutes, while I took a much needed walk at sunset. > >> He was cooking dinner. She was occupied, watching a video. As soon as > >> I left, he pounced. > >> A week later, ridden with guilt and fear, I suppose, he broke up with > >> me in the the most illogical, abrupt way and literally fled the > >> island, not saying goodbye to anyone. Just poof! gone. > >> > >> A few months later the truth was revealed, as I had my daughter in > >> therapy after aberrant behavior was cited at preschool. All I wanted > >> was to track him down and hold him accountable. Some wise advisors > >> told me to let it go, concentrate on my daughter's healing, and trust > >> that he will, one day, in some form, "face the music." > >> (He's very elusive, anyhow, living out of his van in the Sierra > >> Nevadas in summer, surfing in warmer climates in winter.... in case > >> anyone recognises this description.) > >> > >> I guess I needed to get this story off my chest. Also, I wish to show > >> compassion to the sister who had the experience described below, or > >> anyone else who has been the unfortunate recipient of such abuses. I > >> come to this group with solemnness and have observed that certain > >> people like to respond with sarcasm and cynicism. To me, this adds > >> insult to injury and is against Mother's teachings. > >> This does not mean that I do not have a sense of humor. My > >> understanding of this group is that we are a satsang. Satsang means > >> "keeping company with like-minded people." But compassion is the key, > >> is it not? The wise cracks are for the benefit of the speaker > >> (writer), but how do they serve the group? Or the individual who > >> brings their painful experience to the table? Or the planet? Or > >> Mother? > >> > >> Seeking to serve Mother, > >> > >> Krsnasara > >> > >> > >> On Jan 14, 2006, at 5:43 AM, Ammachi wrote: > >> > >>> jmcs_06 wrote: > >>>> I met a man at one of Amma's programs in Santa Fe several years ago. > >>>> He seemed very spiritually-oriented, nice, fun, handsome, charming, > >>>> loving, and was financially blessed and had a nice house... Later, > >>>> after getting to know him better, I found out he was an angry sex > >>>> addict and pedophile cruising the programs and other spiritual > >>>> gatherings to find a "love relationship"! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > _______________ > > Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! > > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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