Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Shamans of various cultures have used marijuana for thousands of years to awaken spiritual experiences, among them it seems the sadhu of India. I honestly think it is something that if approached in a spiritual, trained manner acknowledging the sacredness of it that it can be beneficial. However, I do not think the majority of people have this specific training (myself included) so it is not truly beneficial to our spiritual growth. My personal view is that it amplifies whatever you are feeling at the moment, and so if you are in a spiritual state of being then perhaps it will amplify and take you deeper into that state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 All of this may be true, but this has not been the opinion that Amma has expressed numerous times both in private questions, including my own, and public Q and As. - D Ammachi Sunday, January 08, 2006 12:29 PM Marijuana Shamans of various cultures have used marijuana for thousands of years to awaken spiritual experiences, among them it seems the sadhu of India. I honestly think it is something that if approached in a spiritual, trained manner acknowledging the sacredness of it that it can be beneficial. However, I do not think the majority of people have this specific training (myself included) so it is not truly beneficial to our spiritual growth. My personal view is that it amplifies whatever you are feeling at the moment, and so if you are in a spiritual state of being then perhaps it will amplify and take you deeper into that state. Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! a.. Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. b.. Ammachi c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 I will go with what Mother, as my Satguru says in that case. It must just simulate the experiences, and hence why shamans use it. - "Mahamuni" <mahamuni <Ammachi> Sunday, January 08, 2006 3:43 PM Re: Marijuana > All of this may be true, but this has not been the opinion that Amma has > expressed numerous times both in private questions, including my own, and > public Q and As. > - > D > Ammachi > Sunday, January 08, 2006 12:29 PM > Marijuana > > > Shamans of various cultures have used marijuana for thousands of years to > awaken spiritual experiences, among them it seems the sadhu of India. > > I honestly think it is something that if approached in a spiritual, > trained manner acknowledging the sacredness of it that it can be > beneficial. However, I do not think the majority of people have this > specific training (myself included) so it is not truly beneficial to our > spiritual growth. > > My personal view is that it amplifies whatever you are feeling at the > moment, and so if you are in a spiritual state of being then perhaps it > will amplify and take you deeper into that state. > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. > > b.. > Ammachi > > c.. Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Also I think their might be a difference between astral plane experiences and true "spiritual" experiences. - jmcs_06 Ammachi Sunday, January 08, 2006 2:09 PM Re: Marijuana Yes, many shamans use it but many shamans also move beyond it, no longer need it or recommend it. Kalika Ammachi, "D" <dises05@c...> wrote: > > Shamans of various cultures have used marijuana for thousands of years to awaken spiritual experiences, among them it seems the sadhu of India. > > I honestly think it is something that if approached in a spiritual, trained manner acknowledging the sacredness of it that it can be beneficial. However, I do not think the majority of people have this specific training (myself included) so it is not truly beneficial to our spiritual growth. > > My personal view is that it amplifies whatever you are feeling at the moment, and so if you are in a spiritual state of being then perhaps it will amplify and take you deeper into that state. > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! a.. Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. b.. Ammachi c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Namah Shivaya, I used to experience that booze amplified whatever state I was in. A friend recently told me that a study was done in which brain scans were done to study the effects of marijuana. Basically the brain was pretty well non functional. I asked if the person was stoned or not during the scan and he didn't know. I guess that would explain the catatonic-like states I used to experience. I used to partake of both booze and dope, as well as cigarettes. None of it really did me any harm - it was a tick that did me in! As Rosanna Dana Dana used to say "if it's not one thing it's another!" Just before I met my first guru I quit all of my "vices". There are still plenty of "vices" left in this mind. Jai Ma! Prasadini > > > > My personal view is that it amplifies whatever you are feeling at > the moment, and so if you are in a spiritual state of being then > perhaps it will amplify and take you deeper into that state. > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > ------ > > > * Visit your group "Ammachi > <Ammachi>" on the web. > > * > Ammachi > <Ammachi?subject=Un> > > * Terms of > Service <>. > > > ------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 on 1/8/06 4:09 PM, jmcs_06 at jmcs_06 wrote: > Yes, many shamans use it but many shamans also move beyond it, no > longer need it or recommend it. Kalika That's what Don Juan told Carlos Castañeda. He used drugs to knock him loose in the beginning but then warned that their continued use would be detrimental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Ammachi, Rick Archer <rick@s...> wrote: > > on 1/8/06 4:09 PM, jmcs_06 at jmcs_06 wrote: > > > Yes, many shamans use it but many shamans also move beyond it, no > > longer need it or recommend it. Kalika > > That's what Don Juan told Carlos Castañeda. He used drugs to knock him loose > in the beginning but then warned that their continued use would be > detrimental. was that really drugs (as in artificially created)? I thought it was a natural extract called "peyotl" or "peyote" (Aldous Huxley's "Doors of perception" has a different name than Castaneda). Huxley also claimed that it was non-addictive and not really harmful. who knows? my experience with all this is vicarious only (i.e. reading). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Peyote is certainly much stronger than marijuana. Both are "natural". - manoj_menon Ammachi Sunday, January 08, 2006 4:10 PM Re: Marijuana Ammachi, Rick Archer <rick@s...> wrote: > > on 1/8/06 4:09 PM, jmcs_06 at jmcs_06 wrote: > > > Yes, many shamans use it but many shamans also move beyond it, no > > longer need it or recommend it. Kalika > > That's what Don Juan told Carlos Castañeda. He used drugs to knock him loose > in the beginning but then warned that their continued use would be > detrimental. was that really drugs (as in artificially created)? I thought it was a natural extract called "peyotl" or "peyote" (Aldous Huxley's "Doors of perception" has a different name than Castaneda). Huxley also claimed that it was non-addictive and not really harmful. who knows? my experience with all this is vicarious only (i.e. reading). Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Mata amritanandamayi a.. Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. b.. Ammachi c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 >From the 108 names of Amma… OM STEYA-HIMSA-SURAPANADYA-SESADHARMA-VIDVISE NAMAH …who is strongly disapproving of bad qualities like stealing, injuring others, using intoxicants, etc. ¸..• ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.•´ .•´¨¨)) ((¸¸.•´ ..•´ -:¦:- ..::Brightest Blessings::.. -:¦:- ((¸¸.•´.¸..•` ..::Bela::.. "Like nectar in the fresh morning flower, let goodness fill you. The heart that unfolds all its petals spreading the fragrance of goodness is the choicest offering at the altar of God" - Amma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 A friend of mine has overdosed, unfortunately, several times on peyote. (Even more unfortunate is that he continues to consume it.) Yes, it is much stronger than marijuana, from what I understand… ¸..• ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.•´ .•´¨¨)) ((¸¸.•´ ..•´ -:¦:- ..::Brightest Blessings::.. -:¦:- ((¸¸.•´.¸..•` ..::Bela::.. "Like nectar in the fresh morning flower, let goodness fill you. The heart that unfolds all its petals spreading the fragrance of goodness is the choicest offering at the altar of God" - Amma _____ Ammachi [Ammachi] On Behalf Of Mahamuni Sunday, January 08, 2006 7:40 PM Ammachi Re: Re: Marijuana Peyote is certainly much stronger than marijuana. Both are "natural". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 on 1/8/06 6:10 PM, manoj_menon at ammademon wrote: > Ammachi, Rick Archer <rick@s...> wrote: >> >> on 1/8/06 4:09 PM, jmcs_06 at jmcs_06 wrote: >> >>> Yes, many shamans use it but many shamans also move beyond it, no >>> longer need it or recommend it. Kalika >> >> That's what Don Juan told Carlos Castañeda. He used drugs to knock > him loose >> in the beginning but then warned that their continued use would be >> detrimental. > > > was that really drugs (as in artificially created)? I thought it was > a natural extract called "peyotl" or "peyote" (Aldous > Huxley's "Doors of perception" has a different name than Castaneda). > Huxley also claimed that it was non-addictive and not really harmful. Peyote is as natural as marijuana, which is what we've been talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 I read Castaneda's books, too. This is interesting. The Indians (or Native Americans) who use peyote (still do)believe in the spirit of Mescalito that lives in the plant. Ingesting the peyote opens the door to greeting him as well as other experiences as described in the book. For those who don't know, Castaneda was writing his master's thesis on Shamanism and the Native American (actually he was in Mexico so is that Indian?)took him in as an apprentice. Very intriguing books that he wrote on his journey to becoming a shaman. As for me...Thankfully we have IAM meditation...! -- In Ammachi, Rick Archer <rick@s...> wrote: > > on 1/8/06 6:10 PM, manoj_menon at ammademon@g... wrote: > > > Ammachi, Rick Archer <rick@s...> wrote: > >> > >> on 1/8/06 4:09 PM, jmcs_06 at jmcs_06 wrote: > >> > >>> Yes, many shamans use it but many shamans also move beyond it, no > >>> longer need it or recommend it. Kalika > >> > >> That's what Don Juan told Carlos Castañeda. He used drugs to knock > > him loose > >> in the beginning but then warned that their continued use would be > >> detrimental. > > > > > > was that really drugs (as in artificially created)? I thought it was > > a natural extract called "peyotl" or "peyote" (Aldous > > Huxley's "Doors of perception" has a different name than Castaneda). > > Huxley also claimed that it was non-addictive and not really harmful. > > Peyote is as natural as marijuana, which is what we've been talking about. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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