To Kalika on Ammas' prediction for Dec. 26,2005 ~ words not reality ~ Amma

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Kalika wrote:

 

....She told me things many years ago during darshan in answer to a

question I asked of Her (Her answer to me was translated by one of

the Swamis to me), that didn't come true in my life, and now this

Dec. 26, 2005 prediction apparently didn't happen either.

 

Namaste Kalika,

 

Your concerns, doubts, etc are understandable. We all have them and

we all deal with them differently. My view is that my doubts,

disappointments, anger, etc are all thoughts in my head.

 

>From Amma's teachings and my own experience 35 years ago it seems

that the head is unreliable ~ it wants to understand everything but

it cannot, it gets confused, frustrated, doubtful, fearful, angry,

etc. The only refuge I find is resting in the heart where there is

Silence, Love, Amma and NO WORDS, NO THOUGHTS.

 

Here is Amma's quote referring to WORDS( thoughts ) in Scripture, but

it seems this is applicable to all words( all thoughts in the head ).

 

"Theory [studying scriptures] can help, but there is a limit to its

value. After a certain point, words or speech become a hindrance, a

great hindrance. Eventually, you will have to drop the words. But

this is not possible if you study them without the correct attitude.

Don't be bound by the words of the scriptures. Study them with the

attitude, 'This is not the reality, and therefore, I should not feel

attached to it.'" - Ammachi, Awaken Children, Vol.4, p122 (0126)

 

This is not so simple ~ we all have to deal with our thoughts and our

doubts as best as possible until we are free of our thoughts and our

doubts. Meanwhile, we can use words to pray, to praise God, to

provide helpful/inspirational info to others, to work, etc.

 

Below is what helped me to realize not to take my words or anyone

else's words too seriously and that what I may consider as a "fact"

is really colored by my own perceptions distorted by my thoughts in

the head.

 

I was once a physicist 35 years ago.

Thanks to the deepest grief in my life, I started my spiritual quest.

Lost 40 lbs, meditated a lot, ate veggies and fruit and nuts, spend a

month with Maharishi, fasted, read spiritual books for the first time

instead of technical books, enjoyed nature, had an ice cream cone

single dip once per month, etc.

 

One day, I determined to solve all my doubts, uncertainties,

indecisions by formulating a cosmic formula ~ in my head appeared

beautiful mathematical logical thoughts of symmetries, infinities,

point values

~ BUT STILL NO CLUE WHETHER IT'S DHARMIC TO EAT THE ICE CREAM OR NOT.

 

Mind completely exhausted descended from head to rest in the heart.

~ PEACE, STILLNESS, SILENCE

~ then something unusual, unfamiliar ?

~ what is this ?

~ could it really be after 31 years of life ?

~ for the first time ?

~ the non-verbal answer was

~ YES THIS IS GOD'S LOVE IN ITS PURITY ! very softly

~ so subtle yet so powerful

~ seemingly permeating, maintaining all

 

For a second, the head asserted itself with this doubt :

~ oh yeh! can the heart tell if it is dharmic to eat the ice cream or

not ?

~ doubt followed by great fear

~ realizing the great danger of staying in the HEAD

~ quickly took refuge in the HEART

 

God's Love still there.

~ started so gently so silently

~ yet expanding ?

~ later exploding in BLISS, in LIGHT

~ yet peace, stillness, silence still undisturbed

 

This was God's Gift to me who doubted His existence but several

months before.

~ a vision of my spiritual goal

~ a guarantee of sorts ?

 

On this journey, sometimes disappointments, doubts, anger, etc at

myself, at God still do appear.

~ o God, o Amma, why so long ?

~ what lessons still to learn ?

~ all seems in vain

~ all seems so clear

~ distance from head to heart so near

 

"To experience spiritual bliss, the head must fall down into the

heart." ~ Amma( Berkeley video )

 

The burdensome thoughts in the head still struggle while offering

themselves to Amma's Love in the heart. Having touched Amma's Feet

several years past, let the mind and all its doubts gradually

dissolve according to Amma's Invisible Plan for me.

 

Hope these words help but don't take them too seriously.

 

Amma's Blessings from my Heart to Your Heart,

amarnath

~lokaha samastaha sukhino bhavantu (3x)

~om santi santi santihi

~MAY ALL BEINGS EVERYWHERE BE PEACEFUL AND HAPPY !

~THANK YOU AMMA !

[Guest guest]

Thank you deeply for sharing your journey. May we all fall into our

hearts at the feet of Amma.

 

 

On Jan 7, 2006, at 2:57 AM, amarnath wrote:

 

> Kalika wrote:

>

> ...She told me things many years ago during darshan in answer to a

> question I asked of Her (Her answer to me was translated by one of

> the Swamis to me), that didn't come true in my life, and now this

> Dec. 26, 2005 prediction apparently didn't happen either.

>

> Namaste Kalika,

>

> Your concerns, doubts, etc are understandable. We all have them and

> we all deal with them differently. My view is that my doubts,

> disappointments, anger, etc are all thoughts in my head.

>

> From Amma's teachings and my own experience 35 years ago it seems

> that the head is unreliable ~ it wants to understand everything but

> it cannot, it gets confused, frustrated, doubtful, fearful, angry,

> etc. The only refuge I find is resting in the heart where there is

> Silence, Love, Amma and NO WORDS, NO THOUGHTS.

>

> Here is Amma's quote referring to WORDS( thoughts ) in Scripture, but

> it seems this is applicable to all words( all thoughts in the head ).

>

> "Theory [studying scriptures] can help, but there is a limit to its

> value. After a certain point, words or speech become a hindrance, a

> great hindrance.  Eventually, you will have to drop the words.  But

> this is not possible if you study them without the correct attitude. 

> Don't be bound by the words of the scriptures.  Study them with the

> attitude, 'This is not the reality, and therefore, I should not feel

> attached to it.'"  - Ammachi, Awaken Children, Vol.4, p122 (0126)

>

> This is not so simple ~ we all have to deal with our thoughts and our

> doubts as best as possible until we are free of our thoughts and our

> doubts. Meanwhile, we can use words to pray, to praise God, to

> provide helpful/inspirational info to others, to work, etc.

>

> Below is what helped me to realize not to take my words or anyone

> else's words too seriously and that what I may consider as a "fact"

> is really colored by my own perceptions distorted by my thoughts in

> the head.

>

> I was once a physicist 35 years ago.

> Thanks to the deepest grief in my life, I started my spiritual quest.

> Lost 40 lbs, meditated a lot, ate veggies and fruit and nuts, spend a

> month with Maharishi, fasted, read spiritual books for the first time

> instead of technical books, enjoyed nature, had an ice cream cone

> single dip once per month, etc.

>

> One day, I determined to solve all my doubts, uncertainties,

> indecisions by formulating a cosmic formula ~ in my head appeared

> beautiful mathematical logical thoughts of symmetries, infinities,

> point values

> ~ BUT STILL NO CLUE WHETHER IT'S DHARMIC TO EAT THE ICE CREAM OR NOT.

>

> Mind completely exhausted descended from head to rest in the heart.

> ~ PEACE, STILLNESS, SILENCE

> ~ then something unusual, unfamiliar ?

> ~ what is this ?

> ~ could it really be after 31 years of life ?

> ~ for the first time ?

> ~ the non-verbal answer was

> ~ YES THIS IS GOD'S LOVE IN ITS PURITY ! very softly

> ~ so subtle yet so powerful

> ~ seemingly permeating, maintaining all

>

> For a second, the head asserted itself with this doubt :

> ~ oh yeh! can the heart tell if it is dharmic to eat the ice cream or

> not ?

> ~ doubt followed by great fear

> ~ realizing the great danger of staying in the HEAD

> ~ quickly took  refuge in the HEART

>

> God's Love still there.

> ~ started so gently so silently

> ~ yet expanding ?

> ~ later exploding in BLISS, in LIGHT

> ~ yet peace, stillness, silence still undisturbed

>

> This was God's Gift to me who doubted His existence but several

> months before.

> ~ a vision of my spiritual goal

> ~ a guarantee of sorts ?

>

> On this journey, sometimes disappointments, doubts, anger, etc at

> myself, at God still do appear.

> ~ o God, o Amma, why so long ?

> ~ what lessons still to learn ?

> ~ all seems in vain

> ~ all seems so clear

> ~ distance from head to heart so near

>

> "To experience spiritual bliss, the head must fall down into the

> heart." ~ Amma( Berkeley video )

>

> The burdensome thoughts in the head still struggle while offering

> themselves to Amma's Love in the heart. Having touched Amma's Feet

> several years past, let the mind and all its doubts gradually

> dissolve according to Amma's Invisible Plan for me.

>

> Hope these words help but don't take them too seriously.

>

> Amma's Blessings from my Heart to Your Heart,

> amarnath

> ~lokaha samastaha sukhino bhavantu (3x)

> ~om santi santi santihi

> ~MAY ALL BEINGS EVERYWHERE BE PEACEFUL AND HAPPY !

> ~THANK YOU AMMA !

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Amarnath. This is very helpful.

 

amarnath wrote:

> Kalika wrote:

>

> ...She told me things many years ago during darshan in answer to a

> question I asked of Her (Her answer to me was translated by one of

> the Swamis to me), that didn't come true in my life, and now this

> Dec. 26, 2005 prediction apparently didn't happen either.

>

> Namaste Kalika,

>

> Your concerns, doubts, etc are understandable. We all have them and

> we all deal with them differently. My view is that my doubts,

> disappointments, anger, etc are all thoughts in my head.

>

> >From Amma's teachings and my own experience 35 years ago it seems

> that the head is unreliable ~ it wants to understand everything but

> it cannot, it gets confused, frustrated, doubtful, fearful, angry,

> etc. The only refuge I find is resting in the heart where there is

> Silence, Love, Amma and NO WORDS, NO THOUGHTS.

>

> Here is Amma's quote referring to WORDS( thoughts ) in Scripture, but

> it seems this is applicable to all words( all thoughts in the head ).

[snipped for brevity]

 

 

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"Naan Amme Snehikkunnu"

Be Love,

Egyirba