Guest guest Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 Adriane wrote: >> ...Suddenly I "remembered" Amma! I smiled and became VERY happy! >> I thought, I'm going to have FUN even if they are mad! And I'm just >> going to be myself and not worry about if anyone is angry. I walked >> in, happy and smiling, ho ho ho-ing and all (that always helps-to be >> very Santa-like). My family and I laughed all day and night. WE had a >> BLAST! We even had a wrapping paper fight (balled it up and started >> throwing!). It was NUTS! >> We truly laughed our heads off. At one point, I was laughing so hard >> I could not talk. (I've been having LOTS of these spells. I know that >> my friends and family think I'm losing my mind! But sometimes >> everything is so incredibly funny that I just "lose it!" Is anyone >> else having this Amma induced symptom??) Dear Adriane ~ what a wonderful story ... and so many themes running through it, but the one that struck me the most was your decision to have FUN no matter what your family might be doing. And you did ... and they didn't even get mad. And the Christmas paper throwing party sounds like it was really great. It is true, though it is so easy to forget, that despite how other people are behaving we can still "have fun,behave well,be loving,enjoy the movie," etc. It really is just changing your mind. How simple. How impossible. That is the paradox. I'm so glad you had such a good time. Hugs ~ Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 Dear Adriane and REAL FAMILY out there: Why do we consider our birth parents to be our real family? We did not get to chose them. Some received alcoholic fathers/mothers. Others attained absentee fatherless/motherless homes etc. Some of us were abused by brothers/sisters. Some had highly spiritual devotee parentage. Others had highly evolved siblings around us. Did we chose these "parents/brothers/sisters/ aunts/uncles/cousins. Some of us even had STEP-PARENTAGE. I feel we are actually all orphans. Amma alone is our parent. This means that devotees of Her satsang are our REAL brothers and sisters. All Amma devotees are my family because I chose AMMA. This is not aery gooey new agey talk. IT IS A FACT. IT IS ABSOLUTE TRUTH, (IMHO) or more accurately in my Minds humble opinion. Respect your parents? Absolutely YES!! Amma instructs that our birth parents are our first gurus. Nevertheless a devotee reading this is closer to me than any birth brother and sister. I am an only child so I have adopted you. Lets try expansiveness here. ANY devotee of God whether He/She is Hindu/Jewish/Islamic (dot dot dot) are my spiritual brothers and sisters. I CHOSE AMMA. I did not chose my birth parents. This extrapolates outwards toward Amma's devotee children because I chose Amma thus HER CHILDREN are my true brothers and sisters. Any Realized Soul's children can have this status with me. Ramana Maharshi/Sri Ramakrishna/Jesus? It does not matter to me. Does this mean that atheistic/agnostic Children are lesser relations? Not at all. They are also my brothers and sisters as well. We have a disconnect - somehow. We could relate better - that's all. This does not mean they are lesser than quote unquote "Amma people". Brothers can be linked on a guru disciple extrapolation. Sisters can be linked in exactly the same way. Om Peace. GeorgeSon P.S. Here comes my disclaimer. I do NOT feel this way toward even Amma's children. You all annoy me at times on this list. I get into spats with Amma people doing Seva. Sometimes I deeply resent Amma people leave alone devotees from other orders. Thus goes Maya perhaps. But first comes Right Thinking and hopefully I can take action appropriately with the Guru's grace in proper time. Ammachi, nierika@a... wrote: > > > Adriane wrote: > > >> ...Suddenly I "remembered" Amma! I smiled and became VERY happy! > >> I thought, I'm going to have FUN even if they are mad! And I'm just > >> going to be myself and not worry about if anyone is angry. I walked > >> in, happy and smiling, ho ho ho-ing and all (that always helps- to be > >> very Santa-like). My family and I laughed all day and night. WE had a > >> BLAST! We even had a wrapping paper fight (balled it up and started > >> throwing!). It was NUTS! > > >> We truly laughed our heads off. At one point, I was laughing so hard > >> I could not talk. (I've been having LOTS of these spells. I know that > >> my friends and family think I'm losing my mind! But sometimes > >> everything is so incredibly funny that I just "lose it!" Is anyone > >> else having this Amma induced symptom??) > > > > > Dear Adriane ~ what a wonderful story ... and so many themes running through > it, but the one that struck me the most was your decision to have FUN no > matter what your family might be doing. And you did ... and they didn't even get > mad. And the Christmas paper throwing party sounds like it was really great. > It is true, though it is so easy to forget, that despite how other people > are behaving we can still "have fun,behave well,be loving,enjoy the > movie," etc. It really is just changing your mind. How simple. How impossible. > That is the paradox. I'm so glad you had such a good time. Hugs ~ Linda > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 > They are also my brothers and sisters > as well. We have a disconnect - somehow. > We could relate better - that's all. > This does not mean they are lesser than > quote unquote "Amma people". > > >I find your whole post very to the point, but I particularly like the > above paragraph. My own daughter who is named Ananda and was raised in a spiritual home comes to mind. I prayed for her conception for seven years. I prayed to God to give me a soul who desired a spiritual path. She has turned out to be highly ethical and compassionate but not at all interested in moving ahead spiritually. She is very antagonistic toward my path and uses every chance she can get to tear down gurus. She had the blessing of Amma's darshan when she was only 17 (on Amma's first tour of North America), but barely has any respect for our Divine Mother. I love her deeply as a mother loves her only child. But it is frustrating to be confronted by her anger and resentment. Obviously, this is a deep lesson for me. But I do feel so much closer to all of Amma's precious children that I meet on this forum. Also the children of Shree Maa and Swami Satyananda Saraswati who are my root teachers. It seems strange that one's biological family often puts up such a fight regarding belief in God and spiritual practice. But read the stories of the lives of Amma and Shree Maa and Swamiji and we find that we are not alone. Perhaps the disconnect we feel with our biological families serves to turn us to our eternal families. With deepest love to all my divine brothers and sisters, Pahari Maa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 Hello Linda! A girl's just gotta have fu-un....(song)Life is good. Amma says we can choose to be happy or sad in any moment. So I usually am happy most of the time. But I'm like all people, I have my days. Here's a funny story: I was such a happy teenager-kind of came out of my shell. I had been incredibly shy. DOWNRIGHT petrified of people...Well, my mom didn't think my being so happy was "normal" so they sought out a psychiatrist to help me try to realize that i really was depressed. Now THAT depressed me!..But it's SO funny now! ROTFL...NOW I realize that being happy all the time was a GOOD thing! THEY had it wrong. But it really, really cracks me up. I am probably even WORST now with being happy than ever-thanks to Amma. But I'm very close to my biological family. I am most fortunate. We are not perfect but we truly love one another deeply. I know, I know...some of you are thinking, yep, that girl is a little "off" a little bit WACKY!.....Amma has made me just CRAZY about Her! Loved your description of where you live. Some of the places some of you live sound just breathtakingly beautiful..sigh... I'm currently living in Middle Earth.. in Missouri-center of the universe. smile...! I do love it here. But they took paradise and put up a parking lot...Many farms are going the route of housing as our area is booming with people. One of the fastest growing counties in the U.S. Is that good or bad? Well, good for me and my business. And I do love people but would prefer more farms sticking around. adriane Ammachi, nierika@a... wrote: > > > Adriane wrote: > > >> ...Suddenly I "remembered" Amma! I smiled and became VERY happy! > >> I thought, I'm going to have FUN even if they are mad! And I'm just > >> going to be myself and not worry about if anyone is angry. I walked > >> in, happy and smiling, ho ho ho-ing and all (that always helps- to be > >> very Santa-like). My family and I laughed all day and night. WE had a > >> BLAST! We even had a wrapping paper fight (balled it up and started > >> throwing!). It was NUTS! > > >> We truly laughed our heads off. At one point, I was laughing so hard > >> I could not talk. (I've been having LOTS of these spells. I know that > >> my friends and family think I'm losing my mind! But sometimes > >> everything is so incredibly funny that I just "lose it!" Is anyone > >> else having this Amma induced symptom??) > > > > > Dear Adriane ~ what a wonderful story ... and so many themes running through > it, but the one that struck me the most was your decision to have FUN no > matter what your family might be doing. And you did ... and they didn't even get > mad. And the Christmas paper throwing party sounds like it was really great. > It is true, though it is so easy to forget, that despite how other people > are behaving we can still "have fun,behave well,be loving,enjoy the > movie," etc. It really is just changing your mind. How simple. How impossible. > That is the paradox. I'm so glad you had such a good time. Hugs ~ Linda > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 Dear GeogeSon, Well, as Amma says, we all belong to God ultimately. We are just borrowed from God. And we are all connected as brothers and sisters- from birth family, to everyone in our lives. And I wonder if we did not choose our biological family before coming to earth? I think we probably did! I think we probably created our own lives for our evolution. Since the seed of God consciousness resides within, we are probably a part of that planning, that creation from the beginning. Do I understand all of this? No! adriane -- In Ammachi, "leokomor" <leokomor> wrote: > > Dear Adriane and REAL FAMILY out there: > > Why do we consider our birth parents > to be our real family? > We did not get to chose them. > Some received alcoholic > fathers/mothers. Others attained > absentee fatherless/motherless > homes etc. Some of us > were abused by brothers/sisters. > Some had highly spiritual devotee parentage. > Others had highly evolved siblings around us. > > Did we chose these "parents/brothers/sisters/ > aunts/uncles/cousins. Some of us even > had STEP-PARENTAGE. I feel we are actually > all orphans. > > Amma alone is our parent. This > means that devotees > of Her satsang are our REAL brothers > and sisters. All Amma devotees are my > family because I chose AMMA. > This is not aery gooey new agey talk. IT IS > A FACT. IT IS ABSOLUTE TRUTH, (IMHO) > or more accurately in my Minds humble > opinion. > > Respect your parents? Absolutely YES!! > Amma instructs that our birth parents > are our first gurus. Nevertheless a > devotee reading this > is closer to me than any birth > brother and sister. I am an only > child so I have adopted you. > > Lets try expansiveness here. ANY devotee > of God whether He/She is Hindu/Jewish/Islamic > (dot dot dot) are my spiritual brothers and > sisters. > > I CHOSE AMMA. I did not > chose my birth parents. This > extrapolates outwards toward Amma's > devotee children because I chose Amma thus > HER CHILDREN are my true > brothers and sisters. Any Realized Soul's > children can have this status with me. > Ramana Maharshi/Sri Ramakrishna/Jesus? > > It does > not matter to me. > > Does this mean that atheistic/agnostic > Children are lesser > relations? Not at all. > > They are also my brothers and sisters > as well. We have a disconnect - somehow. > We could relate better - that's all. > This does not mean they are lesser than > quote unquote "Amma people". > > Brothers can be linked on a guru > disciple extrapolation. > Sisters can be linked in exactly > the same way. > > Om Peace. > > GeorgeSon > > P.S. Here comes my disclaimer. I do > NOT feel this way toward even Amma's children. > You all annoy me at times on this list. > I get into spats with Amma people doing Seva. > Sometimes I deeply resent Amma people leave > alone devotees from other orders. Thus goes > Maya perhaps. But first comes Right Thinking > and hopefully I can take action appropriately > with the Guru's grace in proper time. > > Ammachi, nierika@a... wrote: > > > > > > Adriane wrote: > > > > >> ...Suddenly I "remembered" Amma! I smiled and became VERY > happy! > > >> I thought, I'm going to have FUN even if they are mad! And I'm > just > > >> going to be myself and not worry about if anyone is angry. I > walked > > >> in, happy and smiling, ho ho ho-ing and all (that always helps- > to be > > >> very Santa-like). My family and I laughed all day and night. WE > had a > > >> BLAST! We even had a wrapping paper fight (balled it up and > started > > >> throwing!). It was NUTS! > > > > >> We truly laughed our heads off. At one point, I was laughing so > hard > > >> I could not talk. (I've been having LOTS of these spells. I > know that > > >> my friends and family think I'm losing my mind! But sometimes > > >> everything is so incredibly funny that I just "lose it!" Is > anyone > > >> else having this Amma induced symptom??) > > > > > > > > > > Dear Adriane ~ what a wonderful story ... and so many themes > running through > > it, but the one that struck me the most was your decision to have > FUN no > > matter what your family might be doing. And you did ... and they > didn't even get > > mad. And the Christmas paper throwing party sounds like it was > really great. > > It is true, though it is so easy to forget, that despite how other > people > > are behaving we can still "have fun,behave well,be > loving,enjoy the > > movie," etc. It really is just changing your mind. How simple. How > impossible. > > That is the paradox. I'm so glad you had such a good time. Hugs ~ > Linda > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 In 1960 I took a trip with my fiance to the Ozarks and St. Louis. We had a great time. The Ozarks were very beautiful then. In St. Louis we heard lots of jazz and blues and even heard Judy Collins before she became famous. My sister attended Southeast Missouri State College in Cape Girardeau and I visited there a few times. I was born and raised in Chicago. I met Amma in Madison, WI in 1987. So I have a lot of midwestern roots. Pahari Maa On Dec 27, 2005, at 6:06 PM, Adriane wrote: > Hello Linda! > A girl's just gotta have fu-un....(song)Life is good. Amma says we > can choose to be happy or sad in any moment. So I usually am happy > most of the time. But I'm like all people, I have my days. > > Here's a funny story: I was such a happy teenager-kind of came out of > my shell. I had been incredibly shy. DOWNRIGHT petrified of > people...Well, my mom didn't think my being so happy was "normal" so > they sought out a psychiatrist to help me try to realize that i > really was depressed. Now THAT depressed me!..But it's SO funny now! > ROTFL...NOW I realize that being happy all the time was a GOOD thing! > THEY had it wrong. But it really, really cracks me up. I am probably > even WORST now with being happy than ever-thanks to Amma. But I'm > very close to my biological family. I am most fortunate. We are not > perfect but we truly love one another deeply. I know, I know...some > of you are thinking, yep, that girl is a little "off" a little bit > WACKY!.....Amma has made me just CRAZY about Her! > > Loved your description of where you live. Some of the places some of > you live sound just breathtakingly beautiful..sigh... > > I'm currently living in Middle Earth.. in Missouri-center of the > universe. smile...! I do love it here. But they took paradise and put > up a parking lot...Many farms are going the route of housing as our > area is booming with people. One of the fastest growing counties in > the U.S. Is that good or bad? Well, good for me and my business. And > I do love people but would prefer more farms sticking around. > > adriane > > Ammachi, nierika@a... wrote: > > > > > > Adriane wrote: > > > > >> ...Suddenly I "remembered" Amma! I smiled and became VERY > happy! > > >> I thought, I'm going to have FUN even if they are mad! And I'm > just > > >> going to be myself and not worry about if anyone is angry. I > walked > > >> in, happy and smiling, ho ho ho-ing and all (that always helps- > to be > > >> very Santa-like). My family and I laughed all day and night. WE > had a > > >> BLAST! We even had a wrapping paper fight (balled it up and > started > > >> throwing!). It was NUTS! > > > > >> We truly laughed our heads off. At one point, I was laughing so > hard > > >> I could not talk. (I've been having LOTS of these spells. I > know that > > >> my friends and family think I'm losing my mind! But sometimes > > >> everything is so incredibly funny that I just "lose it!" Is > anyone > > >> else having this Amma induced symptom??) > > > > > > > > > > Dear Adriane ~ what a wonderful story ... and so many themes > running through > > it, but the one that struck me the most was your decision to have > FUN no > > matter what your family might be doing. And you did ... and they > didn't even get > > mad. And the Christmas paper throwing party sounds like it was > really great. > > It is true, though it is so easy to forget, that despite how other > people > > are behaving we can still "have fun,behave well,be > loving,enjoy the > > movie," etc. It really is just changing your mind. How simple. How > impossible. > > That is the paradox. I'm so glad you had such a good time. Hugs ~ > Linda > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > > ▪  Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. >  > ▪  >  Ammachi >  > ▪  Terms of > Service. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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