Guest guest Posted December 24, 2005 Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 Temba wrote: ....IT IS A SENSITIVE SUBJECT FOR HIM BECAUSE IT SEEMS THAT MOST PEOPLE CONSIDER "SUCH PEOPLE",TO ALMOST NOT "BE PEOPLE".AMMAs son considers himself to be one of those "SUCH PEOPLE" AS he also considers himself to be one with humanity... Dear Temba, Sweta and all ~ I followed this thread with interest and was glad to see Sweta catching her own word use. I have found myself doing that more often recently. Some of these concepts are so ingrained in us culturally as well as perhaps by our families that we can find that we may say something and not even realize it until the word has gone from our lips. But Amma is giving us the swift awareness to "see" or "hear" ourselves more quickly and to acknowledge this cultural conditioning. When I was working, I was not one of "such people," if I had ever thought of them that way. Mostly, I don't think I did. In one of my jobs I worked with victims whose family members had been brutally murdered or attacked. I did not deal with the ones who had committed the attacks, but aside from the occasional empathetic emotional pain and anger I felt with the victims, I did not think of the ones who committed the acts as different from myself. I had seen my own dark side; in fact that job was part of what brought it to the fore and helped me make peace with that part of myself. But now that I'm on the other side of the economic fence, I find myself feeling like one of "those people," poor, living in hardscrabble circumstances, ill ... and it is very difficult for me not to judge myself badly for ending up in this situation. Part of it was trusting the wrong people (my parents); part of it was the vicious judgement and actions they directed toward me; and part of it is my dependence of the government to have even any kind of living at all, and my dependence on my hubby. I have always been independent. My illness and inability to work has put me in the position of feeling like one of "those people." In my family, they would have called people like me "poor white trash." Sometimes I wonder if they think of me that way, or if they have any awareness at all of how their actions (wooing me away from my home in Maryland with many promises, now broken, and taking a significant amount of my inheritance) have affected me. I don't think they do, and that is a mystery to me. They live in total denial. Everything is still a party, but it's a party I'm no longer invited to. So where, in my past, my sensitivity and empathy, led me to not view any group of people as "other," this same sensitivity is causing me to judge myself as "other." I cry out to Amma to help me accept my illness with grace, to accept my living circumstances with happiness that I have a place to live, and to not give up on myself. Sometimes it seems like the hardest thing I've ever had to do. But then, every time I've dealt with something sticky (like my own darkness), I always feel, "this is the hardest thing I've ever done." LOL So there is always more learning. Blessings to all, to all, to all of us, for we are One family, One with the Divine, One Jai Ma ~ Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2005 Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 Namah Shivaya Linda, Now that you are one of "such people" are you any different on the inside than you were? Of course not. It is only the outer circumstances that have changed. You have lost a lot, but you are still the person you always have been on the inside. Probably even better because you have had to go through such hard times and pain with your illness. You are not your outer circumstances. You are still who you always have been. Anyone who judges you is doing so for their own stuck reasons. Pranams, Prasadini > humanity... > Dear Temba, Sweta and all ~ I followed this thread with interest and was > glad to see Sweta catching her own word use. I have found myself doing > that more > often recently. Some of these concepts are so ingrained in us > culturally as > well as perhaps by our families that we can find that we may say > something and > not even realize it until the word has gone from our lips. But Amma is > giving us the swift awareness to "see" or "hear" ourselves more > quickly and to > acknowledge this cultural conditioning. > > When I was working, I was not one of "such people," if I had ever > thought of > them that way. Mostly, I don't think I did. In one of my jobs I worked > with > victims whose family members had been brutally murdered or attacked. I > did not > deal with the ones who had committed the attacks, but aside from the > occasional empathetic emotional pain and anger I felt with the > victims, I did not > think of the ones who committed the acts as different from myself. I > had seen > my own dark side; in fact that job was part of what brought it to the > fore and > helped me make peace with that part of myself. > > But now that I'm on the other side of the economic fence, I find myself > feeling like one of "those people," poor, living in hardscrabble > circumstances, > ill ... and it is very difficult for me not to judge myself badly for > ending up > in this situation. Part of it was trusting the wrong people (my parents); > part of it was the vicious judgement and actions they directed toward > me; and > part of it is my dependence of the government to have even any kind > of living > at all, and my dependence on my hubby. > > I have always been independent. My illness and inability to work has > put me > in the position of feeling like one of "those people." In my family, > they > would have called people like me "poor white trash." Sometimes I > wonder if they > think of me that way, or if they have any awareness at all of how their > actions (wooing me away from my home in Maryland with many promises, > now broken, > and taking a significant amount of my inheritance) have affected me. > I don't > think they do, and that is a mystery to me. They live in total denial. > Everything is still a party, but it's a party I'm no longer invited to. > > So where, in my past, my sensitivity and empathy, led me to not view any > group of people as "other," this same sensitivity is causing me to > judge myself > as "other." I cry out to Amma to help me accept my illness with grace, to > accept my living circumstances with happiness that I have a place to > live, and to > not give up on myself. Sometimes it seems like the hardest thing I've > ever > had to do. But then, every time I've dealt with something sticky > (like my own > darkness), I always feel, "this is the hardest thing I've ever done." > LOL So > there is always more learning. > > Blessings to all, to all, to all of us, for we are One family, One > with the > Divine, One > Jai Ma ~ Linda > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > ------ > > > * Visit your group "Ammachi > <Ammachi>" on the web. > > * > Ammachi > <Ammachi?subject=Un> > > * Terms of > Service <>. > > > ------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2005 Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 thankyou my beautiful brothers and sisters for sharing this with everyone.this is AMMAs childs spin on this. WHEN MOTHER TERESA RENOUNCED THE COMFORTS OF HER GROUP TO BE CONSIDERED ONE OF THE "SUCH PEOPLE"BY THE SUCH PEOPLE ,SHE DID IT SO THAT THEY WOULD FEEL HER AND RELATE TO HER AS ONE OF THEM.SHE DID IT OUT OF LOVE FOR THE "SO-CALLED SUCH PEOPLE".SHE STILL MAINTAINED HER INNER IDENTIFICATION WITH GODS LOVE.SHE ONLY WANTED TO THE" POOREST OF THE POOR" TO NOW THAT THEY WERE LOVED AND THE INTRODUCTION TO THAT WAS TO HUMBLY BE AMONGS THEM AS THEM. THIS IS THE SAME THING THAT JESUS DID AND THE SAME THING THAT AMMA DOES. THE SUCH PEOPLE ARE LOOKED DOWN AT BY THE WORLD AND THEREFORE GOD MAKES SURE THAT HE/SHE GIVES THEM SPECIAL ATTENTION. JESUS SAID "TO THE LEAST OF MY BROTHERS YOUR DID IT TO THAT YOU DID IT TO ME." "FOR I WAS HUNGRY AND YOU AND YOU FED ME,I WAS THIRSTY AND YOU GAVE ME DRINK,I WAS A STRANGER AND YOU INVITED ME IN,I WAS NAKED AND YOU CLOTHED ME,I WAS SICK AND YOU LOOKED AFTER ME,I WAS IN "PRISON"(CIRCLE OF LOVE INSIDE) AND YOU CAME TO VISIT ME. THEN THE RIGHTOUS ANSWERED AND SAID "LORD WHEN DID WE DO ALL OF THIS ?"AND JESUS SAYS "TO THE LEASTOF MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS THAT YOU DID IT TO ,YOU DID IT TO ME" YOU CAN READ THIS YOURSELF IN THE BOOK OF MATHEW:CHAPTER 25 VERSES 31 THROUGH 40 TO BE CONSIDRED "such people"is a honor and a blessing.IF ONE HOLDS THE CORRECT AWARENESS IN THIS ,IT IS A TRUE ACT OF GODS GRACE. WHEN A PERSON REACHES OUT TO LOVE "SUCH PEOPLE" THEY GO DEEPER IN THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH AMMAs LOVE.THESE "SUCH PEOPLE" ARE A BLESSING TO THIS WORLD, IF ONE HAS THE EYE TO SEE IT. THIS ISNT ABOUT A SAD STORY ,THIS IS ABOUT HER COMPASSION WORKING IN THE MOST AWSOME WAY.MA MA MA MA MA MA MA MA MA MA MA AMAMA AMMMA I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE IS AMMA IS LOVE LOVE MA MA MA MA MA MAMA MA MA MA AMA IS LOVE IS "YOU" ARE LOVE.. >Prasadini <ganesh1008 >Ammachi >Ammachi >Re: Re: To Temba & Sweta on "such people" (Amma's help & >advice) >Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:21:42 -0800 > >Namah Shivaya Linda, > >Now that you are one of "such people" are you any different on the >inside than you were? Of course not. It is only the outer circumstances >that have changed. You have lost a lot, but you are still the person you >always have been on the inside. Probably even better because you have >had to go through such hard times and pain with your illness. > >You are not your outer circumstances. You are still who you always have >been. Anyone who judges you is doing so for their own stuck reasons. > >Pranams, >Prasadini > > humanity... > > Dear Temba, Sweta and all ~ I followed this thread with interest and was > > glad to see Sweta catching her own word use. I have found myself doing > > that more > > often recently. Some of these concepts are so ingrained in us > > culturally as > > well as perhaps by our families that we can find that we may say > > something and > > not even realize it until the word has gone from our lips. But Amma is > > giving us the swift awareness to "see" or "hear" ourselves more > > quickly and to > > acknowledge this cultural conditioning. > > > > When I was working, I was not one of "such people," if I had ever > > thought of > > them that way. Mostly, I don't think I did. In one of my jobs I worked > > with > > victims whose family members had been brutally murdered or attacked. I > > did not > > deal with the ones who had committed the attacks, but aside from the > > occasional empathetic emotional pain and anger I felt with the > > victims, I did not > > think of the ones who committed the acts as different from myself. I > > had seen > > my own dark side; in fact that job was part of what brought it to the > > fore and > > helped me make peace with that part of myself. > > > > But now that I'm on the other side of the economic fence, I find myself > > feeling like one of "those people," poor, living in hardscrabble > > circumstances, > > ill ... and it is very difficult for me not to judge myself badly for > > ending up > > in this situation. Part of it was trusting the wrong people (my >parents); > > part of it was the vicious judgement and actions they directed toward > > me; and > > part of it is my dependence of the government to have even any kind > > of living > > at all, and my dependence on my hubby. > > > > I have always been independent. My illness and inability to work has > > put me > > in the position of feeling like one of "those people." In my family, > > they > > would have called people like me "poor white trash." Sometimes I > > wonder if they > > think of me that way, or if they have any awareness at all of how their > > actions (wooing me away from my home in Maryland with many promises, > > now broken, > > and taking a significant amount of my inheritance) have affected me. > > I don't > > think they do, and that is a mystery to me. They live in total denial. > > Everything is still a party, but it's a party I'm no longer invited to. > > > > So where, in my past, my sensitivity and empathy, led me to not view any > > group of people as "other," this same sensitivity is causing me to > > judge myself > > as "other." I cry out to Amma to help me accept my illness with grace, >to > > accept my living circumstances with happiness that I have a place to > > live, and to > > not give up on myself. Sometimes it seems like the hardest thing I've > > ever > > had to do. But then, every time I've dealt with something sticky > > (like my own > > darkness), I always feel, "this is the hardest thing I've ever done." > > LOL So > > there is always more learning. > > > > Blessings to all, to all, to all of us, for we are One family, One > > with the > > Divine, One > > Jai Ma ~ Linda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > * Visit your group "Ammachi > > <Ammachi>" on the web. > > > > * > > Ammachi > > <Ammachi?subject=Un> > > > > * Terms of > > Service <>. > > > > > > ------ > > > _______________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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