Guest guest Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 namah sivaya, wonderful reply by Devi ~ good for contemplation not for avoidance. everything we write comes either from the heart or the head or a mixture of both. unfortunately, most of us, including myself, are still stuck in the head too much. and so we have these exchanges. these allow us to see the nature of out egoic minds which we desperately want to get rid of so that we can rest in the heart. meanwhile, it may be well to practice embracing the egoic minds of others as Mother does( with Love and Light ) ~ or as you would the mistakes of you own child ~ with firmness and LOVE ~ an example is Devi's reply to Christopher below also, imho, let us all pray( especially before posting ) : "Amma please come into my heart guide me in all the details of my life and never leave me alone in the head even for a moment thank You Amma." Om, amarnath PS ~ we love you chris! Ammachi, Devi's Daughter <devi.daughter@g...> wrote: > > Namah Sivaya Ckeniley2003, > > What are you talking about? What hyped political rhetoric? The prison > industrial complex mirrors the former plantation system in this country. > Companies are investing in prisons, building prisons, and using the > labor of the prisoners for their own benefit. The parallels between > these two systems are uncanny. Perhaps *you *should do the research. > > And your rhetoric is not hyped? It is certainly emotional and > polarizing! Your name-calling and insults masquerading as "intelligent" > critique and commentary or advice does not serve the purpose of 'good > seva' of which you speak. > > I do acknowledge that prison systems elsewhere may be horrid (I can't > imagine any penal system that would not be). However, we are not talking > about prison systems in other countries, we are talking about the USA. > If we consider ourselves a democratic nation reflecting an ideal that we > think the world should emulate, then we must clean up our own backyard > first. If our prison system is faulty, then ought we not get about > remedying the problems? Prison abuses and corruption is no secret. > There is plenty scholarly work on this subject. > > No one is suggesting that those who have committed crimes ought not be > punished and pay their debt to society. While I haven't been "raped or > attacked at gunpoint," I certainly have compassion for those that have. > I also have compassion for the police officers that have to face the > gang violence permeating so many communities. But part of the system > problems include locking up individuals who have been mistaken for > others and therefore, unlawfully imprisoned. There are just so many > examples of problems with our justice system. Certainly you are aware of > the recent release of people exonerated by DNA evidence? The point is > the system is very problematic. Anyone being incensed about that is not > necessarily "feeling good by complaining" by using "half-baked > politically based criticisms." Frankly, that sounds to me like what you > are doing. Even those who are rightly imprisoned would still be loved > and shown compassion by our Mother.There are just so many examples of > her doing this kind of thing. > > I have watched your response to many subjects over the months and I have > to wonder where your compassion is and just when you reflect Amma's > love. It would be nice to see it sometime in your commentary. > > > Egyirba > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Thank you Amarnath for your sweet spirit and for giving Eqyirba some support. I spoke with her on the phone as she was on her way to her Amma satsang. She is such a beautiful woman with a huge heart, excellent intellect and inclusive spirit. I haven't met her in person yet, but I look forward to the day when this Amma's daughter can give and receive a big hug from Devi's Daughter. Pahari Maa On Dec 9, 2005, at 7:29 PM, amarnath wrote: > namah sivaya, > wonderful reply by Devi ~ good for contemplation not for avoidance. > > everything we write comes either from the heart or the head or a > mixture of both. unfortunately, most of us, including myself, are > still stuck in the head too much. and so we have these exchanges. > these allow us to see the nature of out egoic minds which we > desperately want to get rid of so that we can rest in the heart. > > meanwhile, it may be well to practice embracing the egoic minds of > others as Mother does( with Love and Light ) ~ or as you would the > mistakes of you own child ~ with firmness and LOVE ~ an example is > Devi's reply to Christopher below > > also, imho, let us all pray( especially before posting ) : > "Amma please come into my heart > guide me in all the details of my life > and never leave me alone in the head even for a moment > thank You Amma." > > Om, > amarnath > PS ~ we love you chris! > > Ammachi, Devi's Daughter <devi.daughter@g...> > wrote: > > > > Namah Sivaya Ckeniley2003, > > > > What are you talking about? What hyped political rhetoric? The > prison > > industrial complex mirrors the former plantation system in this > country. > > Companies are investing in prisons, building prisons, and using the > > labor of the prisoners for their own benefit. The parallels between > > these two systems are uncanny. Perhaps *you *should do the research. > > > > And your rhetoric is not hyped? It is certainly emotional and > > polarizing! Your name-calling and insults masquerading > as "intelligent" > > critique and commentary or advice does not serve the purpose > of 'good > > seva' of which you speak. > > > > I do acknowledge that prison systems elsewhere may be horrid (I > can't > > imagine any penal system that would not be). However, we are not > talking > > about prison systems in other countries, we are talking about the > USA. > > If we consider ourselves a democratic nation reflecting an ideal > that we > > think the world should emulate, then we must clean up our own > backyard > > first. If our prison system is faulty, then ought we not get about > > remedying the problems? Prison abuses and corruption is no secret. > > There is plenty scholarly work on this subject. > > > > No one is suggesting that those who have committed crimes ought not > be > > punished and pay their debt to society. While I haven't been "raped > or > > attacked at gunpoint," I certainly have compassion for those that > have. > > I also have compassion for the police officers that have to face > the > > gang violence permeating so many communities. But part of the > system > > problems include locking up individuals who have been mistaken for > > others and therefore, unlawfully imprisoned. There are just so many > > examples of problems with our justice system. Certainly you are > aware of > > the recent release of people exonerated by DNA evidence? The point > is > > the system is very problematic. Anyone being incensed about that is > not > > necessarily "feeling good by complaining" by using "half-baked > > politically based criticisms." Frankly, that sounds to me like what > you > > are doing. Even those who are rightly imprisoned would still be > loved > > and shown compassion by our Mother.There are just so many examples > of > > her doing this kind of thing. > > > > I have watched your response to many subjects over the months and I > have > > to wonder where your compassion is and just when you reflect Amma's > > love. It would be nice to see it sometime in your commentary. > > > > > > Egyirba > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > > ▪  Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. >  > ▪  >  Ammachi >  > ▪  Terms of > Service. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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