courageous conversation about race: always two sides for balance -Mike

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OM NAMAH SIVAYA

 

please don't take offense to any of this, it's only my 2 cents. i

think the "privilege" you speak of is another word for economics.

and most don't even realize the advantages they have. there is a

poor tax in the US that many of us don't even know about. for

example many people in the inner cities must use currency exchanges

because they don't have bank accounts. they must pay cash for

everything because they have no credit or pay loan shark interest

rates for financing. car loans and even mortgages cost the poor

more because they are considered higher risks. poor kids go to

schools that have 30 students in a class yet maybe only 10 to 12

show up on any given day. kids are in schools where they don't have

enough textbooks for everyone. and children do well in their high

school only to go to college to find out how far behind they really

are. the list goes on and on. and as for the racial slur thing how

you spelled out some words and **** others is an example of the

ingrained power of some words over others. words gain power over

time, the more they're used, and through the intention of their use.

that's why Amma stresses japa so much. millions have used these

mantras for thousands of years with the intention of realizing God.

 

i think it is important to try to walk in the other persons shoes to

have the proper perspective. not just try to relate from our own.

since we can't experience it all the same way, our only chance to

all come together is through the common bonds, Love and compassion.

 

JAI MA

 

Ammachi, Mike Brooker <patria1818> wrote:

>

>

> > Immigrants to the US

> > are far better off here than other countries of the

> > world.

>

> Probably including Canada.. at least most immigrants

> with advanced professional qualifications have a

> pretty good chance of getting work in their fields in

> the U.S.. in Canada, foreign-trained doctors and

> engineers usually end up driving cabs or flipping

> burgers.

>

> >

> > We all know Amma is color blind, and that is the

> > reality.

>

> As they say in Sanskrit: VASUDHAIVA KUTUMBAKAM (the

> world is one family).

>

> >

> > Stereotyping any race is racism, including the

> > stereotyping of

> > the "greedy corporate", "colonialist", "privileaged"

> > white people.

> >

>

> Slagging white people, particularly white,

> heterosexual males, seems to be tolerated.. and is

> virtually de rigueur among the über-politically

> correct, liberal-leftist university campus crowd who

> pump out verbiage on "white privilege" and such..

> shouldn't have to remind anyone that words like

> "whitey" and "honky" are just as offensive as n*****

>

> FWIW, I've been coming to Amma's Michigan programs

> every year since that first program in a hockey rink

> in Ann Arbor (1999) and I am always surprised at how

> few black people I see coming for darshan --

> considering that the city of Detroit is around 75%

> African American.

>

> Keval

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Ammachi, "ecjensen_us" <ecjensen_us>

wrote:

>

> OM NAMAH SIVAYA

>

> please don't take offense to any of this, it's only my 2 cents. i

> think the "privilege" you speak of is another word for economics.

> and most don't even realize the advantages they have. there is a

> poor tax in the US that many of us don't even know about. for

> example many people in the inner cities must use currency

exchanges

> because they don't have bank accounts. they must pay cash for

> everything because they have no credit or pay loan shark interest

> rates for financing. car loans and even mortgages cost the poor

> more because they are considered higher risks. poor kids go to

> schools that have 30 students in a class yet maybe only 10 to 12

> show up on any given day. kids are in schools where they don't

have

> enough textbooks for everyone. and children do well in their high

> school only to go to college to find out how far behind they

really

> are. the list goes on and on. and as for the racial slur thing

how

> you spelled out some words and **** others is an example of the

> ingrained power of some words over others. words gain power over

> time, the more they're used, and through the intention of their

use.

> that's why Amma stresses japa so much. millions have used these

> mantras for thousands of years with the intention of realizing

God.

>

> i think it is important to try to walk in the other persons shoes

to

> have the proper perspective. not just try to relate from our

own.

> since we can't experience it all the same way, our only chance to

> all come together is through the common bonds, Love and

compassion.

>

> JAI MA

 

Thanks for responding..

 

Banks give out loans and credit cards based on income (W-2 and

otherwise) and credit score. Period. They could care less what color

you are.

 

The education low income inner city people need is on how our system

works..how to improve your credit, how to open a bank account, how

to partner with others to start a business, how to get a mortgage,

etc. This is not racism, but figuring out how to make good decisions

and get ahead. The black church I am involved with does just this:

gives people a financial education.

 

The finger pointing politics and blame the white rascists type of

rhetoric only serves the leaders who are making alot of money

pandering to people's baser instincts.

 

It is definitely true that it is tough for low income people in the

city. And cities seem to punish folks with incessant parking tickets

and the like. Credit card companies and banks make huge amounts of

money off of late fees. This is corrected through education and

knowing your rights. Also living with shradda. Any of us who have to

get by with little know these struggles, but it is NOT racism.

 

The mess of inner city public schools has more to do with below par

standards being accepted by highly political teacher's unions, and a

school culture that does not foster self control or achievement.

 

Also with the crazy atmosphere that inner city kids grow up in:

drugs and sexual activity beginning before puberty and a culture

that worships phoney music idols and violence and horror. This is

the Hollywood MTV anything goes culture. How can a young

impressionable kid work his way through this maze of bad influences?

[Guest guest]

AMMAs son bows to these words.

 

 

>"ecjensen_us" <ecjensen_us

>Ammachi

>Ammachi

> Re: courageous conversation about race: always two sides

>for balance -Mike

>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 15:20:57 -0000

>

>OM NAMAH SIVAYA

>

>please don't take offense to any of this, it's only my 2 cents. i

>think the "privilege" you speak of is another word for economics.

>and most don't even realize the advantages they have. there is a

>poor tax in the US that many of us don't even know about. for

>example many people in the inner cities must use currency exchanges

>because they don't have bank accounts. they must pay cash for

>everything because they have no credit or pay loan shark interest

>rates for financing. car loans and even mortgages cost the poor

>more because they are considered higher risks. poor kids go to

>schools that have 30 students in a class yet maybe only 10 to 12

>show up on any given day. kids are in schools where they don't have

>enough textbooks for everyone. and children do well in their high

>school only to go to college to find out how far behind they really

>are. the list goes on and on. and as for the racial slur thing how

>you spelled out some words and **** others is an example of the

>ingrained power of some words over others. words gain power over

>time, the more they're used, and through the intention of their use.

>that's why Amma stresses japa so much. millions have used these

>mantras for thousands of years with the intention of realizing God.

>

>i think it is important to try to walk in the other persons shoes to

>have the proper perspective. not just try to relate from our own.

>since we can't experience it all the same way, our only chance to

>all come together is through the common bonds, Love and compassion.

>

>JAI MA

>

>Ammachi, Mike Brooker <patria1818> wrote:

> >

> >

> > > Immigrants to the US

> > > are far better off here than other countries of the

> > > world.

> >

> > Probably including Canada.. at least most immigrants

> > with advanced professional qualifications have a

> > pretty good chance of getting work in their fields in

> > the U.S.. in Canada, foreign-trained doctors and

> > engineers usually end up driving cabs or flipping

> > burgers.

> >

> > >

> > > We all know Amma is color blind, and that is the

> > > reality.

> >

> > As they say in Sanskrit: VASUDHAIVA KUTUMBAKAM (the

> > world is one family).

> >

> > >

> > > Stereotyping any race is racism, including the

> > > stereotyping of

> > > the "greedy corporate", "colonialist", "privileaged"

> > > white people.

> > >

> >

> > Slagging white people, particularly white,

> > heterosexual males, seems to be tolerated.. and is

> > virtually de rigueur among the über-politically

> > correct, liberal-leftist university campus crowd who

> > pump out verbiage on "white privilege" and such..

> > shouldn't have to remind anyone that words like

> > "whitey" and "honky" are just as offensive as n*****

> >

> > FWIW, I've been coming to Amma's Michigan programs

> > every year since that first program in a hockey rink

> > in Ann Arbor (1999) and I am always surprised at how

> > few black people I see coming for darshan --

> > considering that the city of Detroit is around 75%

> > African American.

> >

> > Keval

> >

> >

> >

> > ________

> > DSL – Something to write home about.

> > Just $16.99/mo. or less.

> > dsl.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

 

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