Guest guest Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 Tom wrote: Ram Das's and his use of hallucinogenic aids was unwarranted considering their options (in other words, it wasn't a lasat resort use). Adharma all the way... and the expected result. Dear Tom ~ as far as I know Ram Das gave up his use of hallucinogens after meeting and accepting Baba as his Guru. I am not sure why you feel it's so important to negatively judge him. Why not just accept your own perception as true for you, and allow that others' perceptions are true for them? Jai all teachers and Gurus ~ Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 Not to pick on you, but to address some of the other posts: FACT: In Fierce Grace their is footage of Ram Dass leading a large group of people in meditation and giving teachings, with most of the testimonials of his friends glorifying him. People on the film seek out his advice in general counseling, versus spiritual practice. So the fact that he's not actively seeking followers is nothing. I've had plenty of 'teachers' try to seduce me to be a follower through the years, subtly, as any politician would. FACT: It's a western path to choose "teachers" (upa gurus) versus picking one sadguru. This has very specific effects, versus picking one and doing sadhana. FACT: When you glorify someone who isn't worthy, you hurt both them and you. The difference is if you serve someone who may not be complete, but DOES know the way, as described in Swami Paramatmaananda's autobiography, part1 (then you benefit). What one person sees as invalid or unnecessary criticism, the discriminitive sadhak sees as fact-finding rather than blind acceptance. tom > Dear Tom ~ as far as I know Ram Das gave up his use of hallucinogens after > meeting and accepting Baba as his Guru. I am not sure why you feel it's so > important to negatively judge him. Why not just accept your own perception as > true for you, and allow that others' perceptions are true for them? Jai all > teachers and Gurus ~ Linda] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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