Respect and Silence

[Guest guest]

This came today. It was posted by one of my ancestral people on the

East Coast of the US. It's very relevant to dealing with people who

are suffering or who have recently suffered. Listening and economy

of speech is best. Maybe others here will also be moved by this as

I was.

 

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Reference: "Honoring the Medicine" - The Essential Guide to Native

American Healing by Kenneth Bear Hawk Cohen

 

Under the chapter "The Power Of Silence" is a wealth of

information. I would like to share this one part entitled: DON'T

SPEAK TOO MUCH" Many of us with mixed backgrounds have a trouble

with silence when with someone..we feel we must converse, talk,

babble or whatever, and I am at fault on this also, so here goes

 

"Native American elders like to listen to what people don't say, to

the spaces before between, and after words. Words can lie, but

silence tells the truth. Anishinabe scholar and author Dr. Basil

Johnston says that using only as many words as the occasion demands -

sometimes no words at all - is "the first principle of credibility

and trust.". When I visited the great Cree medicine man Albert

Lightning at his home, he greeted me with a warm handshake. We sat

together in silence for about twenty minutes, neither of us speaking

a word.. Then Mosom ("Grandfather") began sharing stories and

teachings that lasted through the night. I had passed his "test."

In all indigenous cultures, silence is a token of respect, self-

control, patience, and humility.

 

In all settings, economy of speech encourages truthfulness.

The speaker is careful not to warp or exaggerate the truth or to go

beyond the limits of what he knows. Economy of speech also shows

common courtesy and respect for the listener. In Apache society,

one of the basic ways of displaying courtesy is laago yalti' "not

speaking too much." Attempting to fill silence by "making

conversation" or by asking many questions is rude. People who speak

too much are too preoccupied with their own ideas to act in

cooperation with others. Keith H. Basso, professor of anthropology

at the University of New Mexico, writes in his brilliant work on

Western Apache culture Wisdom Sits in Places:

 

A person who speaks too much - someone who describes too

busily, who supplies too many details, who repeats and qualifies too

many times - presumes without warrant on the right of hearers to

build freely and creatively on the speaker's own depiction. . . .In

other words, persons who speak too much insult the imaginative

capabilities of other people. . . ."

 

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It makes me think how I feel naturally silent when I come to Amma.

The closer I get the more silence feels natural.

Aikya

[Guest guest]

Om Namah Shivaya:

 

Aikya wrote:

 

"It makes me think how I feel naturally silent when I come to Amma.

The closer I get the more silence feels natural."

 

This has been my experience as well. Big Swami said during a retreat

this summer that Amma has the Swami's and Brahmacharini/Brahmachari

and devotee speakers give Satsang talks to exhaust their "talking

vasana"

 

It appears that this e-Satsang is an opportunity to exhaust my

talking with fingers vasana.

 

Why are we silent when we get close to Amma? It appears that the

reasons are many.

 

One postulation might contend that being in the presence of a Mahatma

raises ones consciousness up to its true dimension. Silence is God.

We are That. The Higher State is natural because it is the Real.

Noise is unreal? There I go again.

 

With Love,

 

George

GeorgeSon)

 

P.S.

 

Let us all be silent and see zero posts for three months? How nice!!!

OK I read your minds. You who thought let GeorgeSon practice this I

know who you are. How? Through my Tantric Siddha power. Woo Woo

 

Ammachi, "Aikya Param" <aikya> wrote:

> This came today. It was posted by one of my ancestral people on

the

> East Coast of the US. It's very relevant to dealing with people

who

> are suffering or who have recently suffered. Listening and economy

> of speech is best. Maybe others here will also be moved by this as

> I was.

>

> **********

> Reference: "Honoring the Medicine" - The Essential Guide to Native

> American Healing by Kenneth Bear Hawk Cohen

>

> Under the chapter "The Power Of Silence" is a wealth of

> information. I would like to share this one part entitled: DON'T

> SPEAK TOO MUCH" Many of us with mixed backgrounds have a trouble

> with silence when with someone..we feel we must converse, talk,

> babble or whatever, and I am at fault on this also, so here goes

>

> "Native American elders like to listen to what people don't say, to

> the spaces before between, and after words. Words can lie, but

> silence tells the truth. Anishinabe scholar and author Dr. Basil

> Johnston says that using only as many words as the occasion

demands -

> sometimes no words at all - is "the first principle of credibility

> and trust.". When I visited the great Cree medicine man Albert

> Lightning at his home, he greeted me with a warm handshake. We sat

> together in silence for about twenty minutes, neither of us

speaking

> a word.. Then Mosom ("Grandfather") began sharing stories and

> teachings that lasted through the night. I had passed his "test."

> In all indigenous cultures, silence is a token of respect, self-

> control, patience, and humility.

>

> In all settings, economy of speech encourages

truthfulness.

> The speaker is careful not to warp or exaggerate the truth or to go

> beyond the limits of what he knows. Economy of speech also shows

> common courtesy and respect for the listener. In Apache society,

> one of the basic ways of displaying courtesy is laago yalti' "not

> speaking too much." Attempting to fill silence by "making

> conversation" or by asking many questions is rude. People who

speak

> too much are too preoccupied with their own ideas to act in

> cooperation with others. Keith H. Basso, professor of anthropology

> at the University of New Mexico, writes in his brilliant work on

> Western Apache culture Wisdom Sits in Places:

>

> A person who speaks too much - someone who describes too

> busily, who supplies too many details, who repeats and qualifies

too

> many times - presumes without warrant on the right of hearers to

> build freely and creatively on the speaker's own depiction. . . .In

> other words, persons who speak too much insult the imaginative

> capabilities of other people. . . ."

>

> *******

>

> It makes me think how I feel naturally silent when I come to Amma.

> The closer I get the more silence feels natural.

> Aikya

[Guest guest]

on 9/15/05 12:54 PM, leokomor at leokomor wrote:

>

> Why are we silent when we get close to Amma? It appears that the

> reasons are many.

>

> One postulation might contend that being in the presence of a Mahatma

> raises ones consciousness up to its true dimension. Silence is God.

> We are That. The Higher State is natural because it is the Real.

> Noise is unreal? There I go again.

 

I think it's because Amma herself is pure silence. How else could she stand

the utter bedlam that surrounds her? She resides in a "cave of Being". Get

close to her and you enter that cave with her. You come into her aura and

your own aura or subtle body entrains to that. She's certainly not going to

entrain to yours, so something's got to give.

[Guest guest]

--- leokomor <leokomor wrote:

> OK I read your minds. You who thought let GeorgeSon

> practice this I

> know who you are. How? Through my Tantric Siddha

> power. Woo Woo

>

 

Oh, so you must be an advanced "Platinum" tantrik,

It's not been 7 days since the program was announced

to the public by HH Dubaji. How did you master it so

quickly? Any tips???