Guest guest Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 Dear Christopher ~ Namaste, Your reply seems to say that you have decided Avram needs some tough love. And you think that I was suggesting pampering. My words were written after I had read your and Avram's posts and a wave of compassion came over me which I assumed were from Amma. As I was writing tears were flowing from my eyes. To me it felt as Amma's Presence & Guidance. Just for fun try rereading my email( below ) as if it were from Amma. My reading of Avram is completely different from yours. Did you not notice how worried and concerned he gets at the dangers Amma has to face? Did you not notice how Avram adds a postscript after his name( "confused", "despairing," etc ). Did you not notice that Avram asked someone to speak with over the phone during some disturbing event? All that we find displeasing in Avram's( or others ) posts we can simply ignore unless we can reply in a useful loving way. All of this indicates to me that Avram wants to understand and is calling out for compassion. I hope you don't get offended, but I also interpret your "tough love" approach as a calling out for real love also. Is it not what all of us want? The Real Love that Amma is. Does not Amma wants us to realize that our true identity is “I AM LOVE” ? Does not Amma wants us to express that Love as compassion towards others? Of course each of us will find our own ways of expressing and in some cases “tough love” may indeed be appropriate but first we should try to make sure it is Love and not our ego that wants to be tough. Please excuse any part of above containing my troublesome burdensome ego. oooooooom santi, amarnath "Humility will come as one progresses in sadhana. Humility means seeing God in everything or perceiving one's own Self everywhere. Humility means accepting the Will of the Supreme." - Ammachi, Awaken Children, Vol.4, p49 (0054) Christopher Keniley <ckeniley2003 wrote: Dear Amarnath, Avram is a tough bird, so you do not need to feel sorry for him. He posts all the time at Amma free speech and I have had numerous discussions with him there. I believe that many of his posts are not appropriate for a satsang environment. maybe it is good for his wings to be clipped and to understand what is acceptable and what isn't. I don't think he needs to be pampered. Peace! Chris --- amarnath wrote: om santi, dear chris, i think it will be a shame if avram leaves this group as he said he would so that you don't have to. i think he needs the opposite of what you( we ) are offering. i think you( we ) are passing up a chance of real seva right in front of your( our ) nose. just my opinion. i too may have contributed inappropriately by not replying with enough love to avram ~ i ask everyone's forgiveness. dharma cannot be dictated real dharma comes from pure love pure love tolerates quite a bit pure love is constantly self-sacrificing i think avram really loves amma a lot. and i know amma love avram. when avram says "has there ever been a year without bad?" we can reply "dear avram, has there ever been a year without any good?" you( we ) choose, may amma bless us and guide us, amarnath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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