Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 OM NAMAH SIVAYA its funny you post on this as i was just thinking about this. to me this is where Amma's words about having faith help me. i personally think it is not possible to explain or understand that which is unlimited(Divine Mother) with our limited capacity(or mine anyway). Muktimaa once wrote, "words are at BEST a mere reflection of Truth." Truth, Ma, Energy is the One. it is the essence of the many. just as lemons are the essence of lemonade. grapes are the essence of wine. but lemonade is not the same as lemons. and wine is not the same as grapes. they have other ingredients as well. to me in the same way the energy of God is our essence but we have other ingredients, namely the mind and the ego (that i know for sure as i am long on both.) so for me when i pray it is really my "other" praying to my essence. prayer must be something because if it wasn't it would be nothing. prayer IS more than nothing. and once i know it's something all i can do is have faith as Amma says. JAI MA Ammachi, GeorgeSon <leokomor> wrote: > Dear One(s): > > Much of the collective energy of this List based Satsang is directed toward praying. > > In Advaita Vedanta it is contended that the one unit is appearing as the many. > > Amma says in the Deccan Herald (a Bangalore Newspaper) Sunday May 1, 2005) > > I don't think of myself as doing things for people, I am not separate, I am like the limbs of the body, if I come to the aid of the unfortunate, it's really like one hand caressing the other when it hurts. I teach my children to be prepared to do anything." > > So when we pray to Amma to stop a hurricane who is praying to whom? How is She different from the wind, rain and the victims on the ground. How is the Divine Mother separate from even a virus like West Nile? We in our ignorant condition feel that we are down here and She is up there. The deluded ones (myself very much included) cry for help. Who is crying to whom? > > With Love, > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Dear Eric: Your explanation was quite articulate. I appreciate your insight. The lemon and grape example you offer can be meditated upon. Amma starts evey Satsang bowing to everyone in the hall. This is because She see's "us" as brahman or pure consciousness manifesting as objects. Amma sees the unity in diversity. We are part and parcel of Her holy limbs. There is no doubt that Amma or any Realized Mahatma is in- comprehensible to personages (like me)tormented by the MIND/BODY/EGO complex. Swami Vivekananda aptly called this the "apparent man" Who then is Real? I sm walking about in a daze within a mirage. Nevetheless Brahman is Brahman. Brahman alone Is. Ouspensky said "EVERYTHING IS" Cutting edge quantum physics unification theorists are scientifically validating the ancient Rishis and the Rg Veda's claims. Gold is gold. We may make it into a ring. Another may craft gold into a bracelet. Some dental crowns are made of gold. Onc can view gold as representing terror if viewed to be a golden sword or golden bullet. Melt them down, Eric. What remains? A lemon, a grape and/or a human body are primarily composed of H2O. Go deeper and you will find that within their sub-stratum they are consciousness or Chit. "Chit" is appearing as the many. Consciousness is appearing as grape, lemon and gold, as well as you and I. Brahman alone is. Amma alone is. So ... for practical purposes plumber John will interact with customer GeorgeSon. If GeorgeSon needs a plumber I will not call a gardener. If my sink backs up I need a plumber. This and that must be done for practical purposes. I cannot sit in my bedroom meditating 24/7. A job is necessary to pay the plumber etc etc. We need to function properly within a empirical dream. For practical purposes we do our best within the confines of dream/illusion. Om Peace Peace. GeorgeSon Ammachi, "ecjensen_us" <ecjensen_us> wrote: > OM NAMAH SIVAYA > > its funny you post on this as i was just thinking about this. to me > this is where Amma's words about having faith help me. i personally > think it is not possible to explain or understand that which is > unlimited(Divine Mother) with our limited capacity(or mine anyway). > Muktimaa once wrote, "words are at BEST a mere reflection of > Truth." Truth, Ma, Energy is the One. it is the essence of the > many. just as lemons are the essence of lemonade. grapes are the > essence of wine. but lemonade is not the same as lemons. and wine > is not the same as grapes. they have other ingredients as well. to > me in the same way the energy of God is our essence but we have > other ingredients, namely the mind and the ego (that i know for sure > as i am long on both.) so for me when i pray it is really > my "other" praying to my essence. prayer must be something because > if it wasn't it would be nothing. prayer IS more than nothing. and > once i know it's something all i can do is have faith as Amma says. > > JAI MA > > Ammachi, GeorgeSon <leokomor> wrote: > > Dear One(s): > > > > Much of the collective energy of this List based Satsang is > directed toward praying. > > > > In Advaita Vedanta it is contended that the one unit is appearing > as the many. > > > > Amma says in the Deccan Herald (a Bangalore Newspaper) Sunday May > 1, 2005) > > > > I don't think of myself as doing things for people, I am not > separate, I am like the limbs of the body, if I come to the aid of > the unfortunate, it's really like one hand caressing the other when > it hurts. I teach my children to be prepared to do anything." > > > > So when we pray to Amma to stop a hurricane who is praying to > whom? How is She different from the wind, rain and the victims on > the ground. How is the Divine Mother separate from even a virus > like West Nile? We in our ignorant condition feel that we are down > here and She is up there. The deluded ones (myself very much > included) cry for help. Who is crying to whom? > > > > With Love, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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