to Avram on consolations, facts & the logic behind it all

[Guest guest]

My dear brother Arun,

 

I have been silently admiring all your mails so far... but this mail is so

beautiful and touching in its childlike faith that I had to reply saying

"thanks" and "congrats"

 

"Thanks" for this sweet mail showering nectar like love and devotion.

 

"Congrats" for having this childlike faith.

 

yes you are right.. what do we know about our Kali Ma there? Amma is beyond

our minds and petty logic.. as if the Universal Wisdom that created this time

and space bound non linear chaos can be understood by our silly linear

thinking?... "Buddhikkum mele mevum Maheshi" as the bhajan says.

 

Usually it has been our experience that Amma's words always come true at some

level or another- this time in boston, Amma joked with me, said something. Then

She said " I was only joking.. that is not true".

 

To which I replied "Amma , even if you say something jokingly, that becomes the

truth, no?"

 

To which She laughed.

 

thanks Arun.

 

I hope that our other brother Arun in the hospital is recovering well. I was

very sad to see the photo of the metal detector in the ashram..kali yuga ..

what else, can I say?

 

Today you must be enjoying Krishna Jayanthi there... do whisper a prayer for

all of us who arent there.

 

bala

 

 

 

 

 

 

Arun Raj <jaimaa wrote:

Namah Sivaya Avram!

 

i appreciate that question. i used to question Amma this way when i was little

kid. She would laugh & look deep into my eyes. then the answer would come up by

itself. i suggest you ask Her yourself.

 

there have been times when She said, that a particular soul has departed to a

higher plane. one devotee who stayed near my home, was said to have gone to a

higher plane for further practices.

 

lets not doubt Kali's ability to absorb karma. there have been so many cases

when She has asked Her chldren, before they depart, whether they wish to return

to earth again.

 

from my experiences, i personally believe that, whenever She says something, She

means it (or it'll happens), however unbelievable it might be. our logic can

never measure up to Hers. it never will, how much hard you might try (i've

tried, only to fall at Her Feet). you might need to have all your charkas

energized & view the fundamental universe from your "center", to have a kid's

idea of way the cosmic logic works. She is beyond even the Rishis* meditating on

Her for eons. i guess its so complicated bcoz, there are just too many

parameters in Her calculations, most of which are beyond human perception.

 

*Amma says She does nothing. its all the Rishi's work. but the Rishi's feel

that,they're nothing more than Her instruments.

 

at Her Lotus Feet,

Her baby : )

 

-

sprose1

Ammachi

Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:42 PM

Re: Digest Number 1691

 

 

In a message dated 8/25/2005 12:11:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Ammachi writes:

Message: 8

Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:24:53 -0000

"leokomor" <leokomor

Re: Here at Amritapuri

 

Dear Iswari:

 

It gives me goose bumps that your are in India with Ammachi.

 

Thank you for the report.

 

The Dutch boy appears to have had only a tiny bit of karma to work

out. Once he burned off all of his negative karma (in his very short

incarnation) he left the body and merged with the absolute.

 

Amma said he attained so why should I doubt it. The parents with

proper understanding could be happy for him.

 

With Love,

I hate to be controversial, but ever notice She says this about every devotee

who dies? I am not sure if it is consolation or fact. --Avram

 

 

 

 

 

Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

 

 

 

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Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Arun:

 

Thank you for the insightful observations below. It is best to have

the faith you detail.

 

The Rishis have thrown their arms up in dismay. What is the point of

our mental gymnastics in postulating on the Indescribable.

 

But to this son, Her word is supreme. In a nutshell I feel that

there is nothing that Amma cannot do. Faulty human logic will not

scrape the surface of Kali's leela.

 

Namah Shivaya,

 

GeorgeSon

 

Ammachi, "Arun Raj" <jaimaa@g...> wrote:

> Namah Sivaya Avram!

>

> i appreciate that question. i used to question Amma this way when i

was little kid. She would laugh & look deep into my eyes. then the

answer would come up by itself. i suggest you ask Her yourself.

>

> there have been times when She said, that a particular soul has

departed to a higher plane. one devotee who stayed near my home, was

said to have gone to a higher plane for further practices.

>

> lets not doubt Kali's ability to absorb karma. there have been so

many cases when She has asked Her chldren, before they depart,

whether they wish to return to earth again.

>

> from my experiences, i personally believe that, whenever She says

something, She means it (or it'll happens), however unbelievable it

might be. our logic can never measure up to Hers. it never will, how

much hard you might try (i've tried, only to fall at Her Feet). you

might need to have all your charkas energized & view the fundamental

universe from your "center", to have a kid's idea of way the cosmic

logic works. She is beyond even the Rishis* meditating on Her for

eons. i guess its so complicated bcoz, there are just too many

parameters in Her calculations, most of which are beyond human

perception.

>

> *Amma says She does nothing. its all the Rishi's work. but the

Rishi's feel that,they're nothing more than Her instruments.

>

> at Her Lotus Feet,

> Her baby : )

>

> -

> sprose1@a...

> Ammachi

> Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:42 PM

> Re: Digest Number 1691

>

>

> In a message dated 8/25/2005 12:11:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> Ammachi writes:

> Message: 8

> Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:24:53 -0000

> "leokomor" <leokomor>

> Re: Here at Amritapuri

>

> Dear Iswari:

>

> It gives me goose bumps that your are in India with Ammachi.

>

> Thank you for the report.

>

> The Dutch boy appears to have had only a tiny bit of karma to

work

> out. Once he burned off all of his negative karma (in his very

short

> incarnation) he left the body and merged with the absolute.

>

> Amma said he attained so why should I doubt it. The parents with

> proper understanding could be happy for him.

>

> With Love,

> I hate to be controversial, but ever notice She says this about

every devotee

> who dies? I am not sure if it is consolation or fact. --Avram

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

>

>

>

> Beliefs of hinduism Different religions beliefs

Hinduism religion

> Ammachi Hinduism

>

>

> --

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>

>

> a.. Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web.

>

> b..

> Ammachi

>

> c.. Terms

of Service.

>

>

> --

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>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Namah Sivaya Avram!

 

i appreciate that question. i used to question Amma this way when i was little

kid. She would laugh & look deep into my eyes. then the answer would come up by

itself. i suggest you ask Her yourself.

 

there have been times when She said, that a particular soul has departed to a

higher plane. one devotee who stayed near my home, was said to have gone to a

higher plane for further practices.

 

lets not doubt Kali's ability to absorb karma. there have been so many cases

when She has asked Her chldren, before they depart, whether they wish to return

to earth again.

 

from my experiences, i personally believe that, whenever She says something, She

means it (or it'll happens), however unbelievable it might be. our logic can

never measure up to Hers. it never will, how much hard you might try (i've

tried, only to fall at Her Feet). you might need to have all your charkas

energized & view the fundamental universe from your "center", to have a kid's

idea of way the cosmic logic works. She is beyond even the Rishis* meditating on

Her for eons. i guess its so complicated bcoz, there are just too many

parameters in Her calculations, most of which are beyond human perception.

 

*Amma says She does nothing. its all the Rishi's work. but the Rishi's feel

that,they're nothing more than Her instruments.

 

at Her Lotus Feet,

Her baby : )

 

-

sprose1

Ammachi

Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:42 PM

Re: Digest Number 1691

 

 

In a message dated 8/25/2005 12:11:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Ammachi writes:

Message: 8

Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:24:53 -0000

"leokomor" <leokomor

Re: Here at Amritapuri

 

Dear Iswari:

 

It gives me goose bumps that your are in India with Ammachi.

 

Thank you for the report.

 

The Dutch boy appears to have had only a tiny bit of karma to work

out. Once he burned off all of his negative karma (in his very short

incarnation) he left the body and merged with the absolute.

 

Amma said he attained so why should I doubt it. The parents with

proper understanding could be happy for him.

 

With Love,

I hate to be controversial, but ever notice She says this about every devotee

who dies? I am not sure if it is consolation or fact. --Avram

 

 

 

 

 

Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

 

 

 

Beliefs of hinduism Different religions beliefs Hinduism

religion

Ammachi Hinduism

 

 

 

 

a.. Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web.

 

b..

Ammachi

 

c..