Guest guest Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Well, having just read this I'm wondering if the author is suggesting this as a psychological technique. It's my opinion that Amma already knows how all of us were as children, teenagers, etc. In fact, she stunned me once by offhandedly referring to an incident that took place when I was ten years old. She already knows everything, so any benefit from this must be psychological for the writer of the letter. Love, Jyotsna GeorgeSon <leokomor wrote: Dear Sisters and Brothers: I am sad to see suffering pour out on these pages. I too am burdened with physical and psychological pain. The Amma leaves North America pain only adds to this.. "The Path of the Mother" book gives a detailed instruction on how to write to Mother. I just read this a few minutes ago for the first time. Has anyone in this Satsang tried Savrtia Bess' letter writing sadhana? Please click: http://www.pathofthemother.com/play3.html Spiritual life can be difficult. What can I say. With Pain Mixed With Gratitude, GeorgeSon Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Beliefs of hinduism Different religions beliefs Hinduism religion Ammachi Hinduism Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. Ammachi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Dear Jyotsna: Om Namah Shivaya Shanti Peace Peace Peace Jyotsna wrote: "It's my opinion that Amma already knows how all of us were as children, teenagers, etc. In fact, she stunned me once by offhandedly referring to an incident that took place when I was ten years old. She already knows everything, so any benefit from this must be psychological for the writer of the letter." This was exactly my reaction as well. Why does Ms. Bess have us go through all of this decade by decade rehashing for Amma. What for? I totally agree that Amma already knows our past. Not just in this lifetime but the previous as well. If Savrita Bess is a member of this Satsang I invite you to explain your lengthy methodology, if it pleases you. My mind - that monkey - wants to express some conjecture. Perhaps Amma sees that we are Tamasic (lazy) We want to have Amma clean our vasanas with little or no effort on our part. The teenage boy has a room like a pig sty. Magazines on the floor. Dirty football uniform tossed on top of an end table. This imaginary boy expects his mother to clean and tidy the mess without even asking. Perhaps Savrita Bess recognizes that we have to exact strenuous effort effort before Amma showers Her grace upon our letters. This is my educated guess. Perhaps we need to invest more energy and pathos before we can expect Grace. The monkey mind giggles. With Monkey Giggles, GeorgeSon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 leokomor <leokomor wrote: Dear Jyotsna: ..... Perhaps Savrita Bess recognizes that we have to exact strenuous effort effort before Amma showers Her grace upon our letters. This is my educated guess. Perhaps we need to invest more energy and pathos before we can expect Grace. Dear George, You may be right, but I just this summer "got it" that Amma keeps telling us (over and over) that we're like the guy on the train who keeps running up and down the aisle with his suitcase. So I'm opting for sitting down on the train this year--(grin)-- until Amma lets me know otherwise, of course. Love and peace, Jyotsna Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Beliefs of hinduism Different religions beliefs Hinduism religion Ammachi Hinduism Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. Ammachi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Om Namah Shivaya: Jai Ma Jai Sadguru Jai! Dear Jyotsna: Gangaji said that Satsang is a place where we can air out our stuff. I can appear argumentative. Please do not take my response as an argument. Argumentation comes from the ego; i.e. - I am right - You are wrong. NO NO - THAT IS NOT MY INTENTION. Let us dialogue and jointly attain SAT CHIT ANANDA. I will settle for SAT. No this is not a reference to Scholastic Aptitude Exam. Jyotsna wrote: "You may be right, but I just this summer "got it" that Amma keeps telling us (over and over) that we're like the guy on the train who keeps running up and down the aisle with his suitcase. So I'm opting for sitting down on the train this year--(grin)-- until Amma lets me know otherwise, of course." My response to this Sister Jyotsna is do as you please. Sit on the train enjoy the view and drink a lemonade. Big Swami during this Summer's tour relayed Amma's parable of the ice cream cone. The Guru does the heavy lifting. Rest assured. But Amma says, the disciple HAS TO MAKE SOME EFFORT. Amma said: If you desire an ice cream cone you have to get out of bed. Get dressed. Get in the car. Drive to Baskin and Robbins. Stand on the line. Pay the cashier. It is necessary to earn the money to pay for the cone as well. Big Swami said that you do not get the ice cream cone delivered to your room via room service all expenses paid. (I am paraphrasing here) Jyotsnaji, using the train metaphor don't you have to drive to Amtrak. Stand on line. Earn the money for the fare? Just my two rupees opinion. I may be off here. With Love, GeorgeSon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Dear Leokomor: It is interesting to me what Gangaji said. I went to have her darshan once in Marin County. After about 15 minutes, my friend and I walked out. Gangaji said jokingly "was it something I said". I didn't answer, but I wanted to say "no, it's your whole concept of satsang." It all seemed like a performance. Sort of a combination of therapy and confrontation orchestrated by a beautiful Western woman. The contrast to Amma couldn't have been greater. Pahari Maa On Aug 9, 2005, at 1:11 PM, leokomor wrote: > Om Namah Shivaya: > > Jai Ma Jai Sadguru Jai! > > Dear Jyotsna: > > Gangaji said that Satsang is a place where we can air out our stuff. > I can appear argumentative. Please do not take my response as an > argument. Argumentation comes from the ego; i.e. - I am right - You > are wrong. > > NO NO - THAT IS NOT MY INTENTION. Let us dialogue and jointly attain > SAT CHIT ANANDA. I will settle for SAT. No this is not a reference > to Scholastic Aptitude Exam. > > Jyotsna wrote: > > "You may be right, but I just this summer "got it" that > Amma keeps telling us (over and over) that we're like > the guy on the train who keeps running up and down > the aisle with his suitcase. So I'm opting > for sitting down on the train this year--(grin)-- > until Amma lets me know otherwise, of course." > > My response to this Sister Jyotsna is do as you please. Sit on the > train enjoy the view and drink a lemonade. > > Big Swami during this Summer's tour relayed Amma's parable of the ice > cream cone. > > The Guru does the heavy lifting. Rest assured. But Amma says, the > disciple HAS TO MAKE SOME EFFORT. > > Amma said: If you desire an ice cream cone you have to get out of > bed. Get dressed. Get in the car. Drive to Baskin and Robbins. > Stand on the line. Pay the cashier. It is necessary to earn the > money to pay for the cone as well. Big Swami said that you do not > get the ice cream cone delivered to your room via room service all > expenses paid. (I am paraphrasing here) > > > Jyotsnaji, using the train metaphor don't you have to drive to > Amtrak. Stand on line. Earn the money for the fare? > > Just my two rupees opinion. I may be off here.  > > With Love, > > GeorgeSon Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > > Beliefs of hinduism > Different religions beliefs > Hinduism religion > > Ammachi > Hinduism > > > > > > ▪  Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. >  > ▪  >  Ammachi >  > ▪  Terms of > Service. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Ammachi, "E. Lamb" <jyotsna2> wrote: > Well, having just read this I'm wondering if the author is > suggesting this as a psychological technique. It's my > opinion that Amma already knows how all of us were as > children, teenagers, etc. In fact, she stunned me once > by offhandedly referring to an incident that took place > when I was ten years old. She already knows everything, > so any benefit from this must be psychological for the > writer of the letter. > > Love, > Jyotsna I agree that Amma knows everything. Trying to understand how she knows all of our thoughts, all at the same time, all over the world is a concept beyond the mind (GOD). I believe that writing as is described in the Path of the Mother (a book I read not too long ago-thanks,Robin)- is an exercise to purify your own mind. It certainly isn't for Amma-as I'm sure we all know. But I think it is simply another process so that you can clear out more thoughts and make room for that space of bliss and nothingness. in devotion and service to Amma Adriane > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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