Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Dear Bala: I am in total agreement with Bala's assertion that Amma can have no birthday. How can Amma have a birthday? She was never born. She can never die.. Bala recalls the Tacoma Retreat question and answer correctly. At the Tacoma 2005 retreat Amma evaded the question of who She was in a previous birth. Big Swami has never trapped Amma into answering this. I feel this was not evasion. The truth is She is totally birth-less. Brothers and Sisters who read this post are also Birth-less and Death-less in your true form. The Apparent You dies. The Real You was never born and cannot die. The Great Rishi/Saint and author of the Mandukya Karika Of Gaudapada, Sri Gaudapada came to this conclusion : The supreme truth is this: there is no birth and no dissolution, no aspirant to liberation and no liberated, and no one who is in slavery» (Mandukyakarika, II, 32). Sri Krisnna in the Bhagavad Gita tells Arjuna about the Soul: " It is never born, nor does it die: after coming to be, it does not cease to be; it is without birth, eternal, imperishable and timeless; it is not destroyed with the destruction of the body." When Arjuna was fearful of killing his relatives Sri Krishna said: .. "He who thinks it (the soul) to be the slayer and he who thinks it to be the slain, both of them know nothing; for it neither slays nor is slain. It is never born, nor doth it ever die; nor, having existed, will it exist no more. Unborn, unchangeable, eternal, and ancient, it is not slain upon the body being perished. That man who knoweth it to be indestructible, unchangeable, without decay, how and whom can he slay or cause to be slain? As a man, casting off robes that are worn out, putteth on others that are new, so the Embodied (soul), casting off bodies that are worn out, entereth other bodies that are new. Weapons cleave it not, fire consumeth it not; the waters do not drench it, nor doth the wind waste it. It is incapable of being cut, burnt, drenched, or dried up. It is unchangeable, all-pervading, stable, firm, and eternal. It is said to be imperceivable, inconceivable and unchangeable. Therefore, knowing it to be such, it behooveth thee not to mourn (for it). " In the Great Tao scripture the Tao Te Ching the verse reads: The Tao is infinite, eternal. Why is it eternal? It was never born; thus it can never die. Why is it infinite? It has no desires for itself; thus it is present for all beings. Of course I am a hypocrite writing the above. I fear death. I do not have faith in Saints like Gaudapada and Ammachi. They say the truth. We cannot die etc. yet I do not gut check this. It will not sink in. Faith is lacking. With Love, GeorgeSon Start your day with - make it your home page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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