Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Prajnaji's bottom line "Sometimes Amma speaks to me in dreams, sometimes > through life situations, through pain and longing and > bhakti and jnana and even through other masters. But I > believe, with all my heart, [Here's the bottom line] "that EVERYTHING that is happening is coming from Her." Jai Maa! i bow and humbly immerse my head in that 'River of Love' your sister swimming in Maa's Nectar, muktimaa -- In Ammachi, "muktimaa" <muktimaa@a...> wrote: > -Dear ones, > Your souls are all so beautiful! i bow to your open, wise > hearts. And to you specifically, Prajna, your post frankly has me > weeping out of it's shear beauty. i also have had the great privilige > and joy to have sat at the Feet [actually] with some, and others > through their teachings in the 54 years i have walked this earth this > lifetime. > i think that Swamiji Satyananda Saraswati sums it up very well in > this excerpt from the introduction to his translation of the Guru > Gita. [which is contained in the book The Guru and the Goddess > published by the Devi Mandir.] > > He says: "The Guru is actually the Supreme Divinity, and therefore, > we bow down to the respected Guru. Through all the teachers, guides, > inspirations, examples, of every realm of heaven and earth, the > principle of Guru is what has shown forth. The Guru is actually the > Supreme Divinity, and ALL OTHER EXPRESSIONS WERE LINKS IN THE CHAIN > WHICH BROUGHT US TO THAT REALIZATION. > > Is it possible to have a confusion of loyalties to the Guru? > Certainly not. If the Guru is Actually the Supreme Divinity, then all > the expressions of that Divinity must be respected, where my > allegiance must be towards God/Goddess. [muktimaa interjects 'our > beloved Amma!'] > > Jai Guru! Jai Amma! Everything rests on YOUR LAP! Jai Maa! > Dissolving in Mother's Love and cherishing Her Divine Smile,Healing > Caress, and Sacred purifying Kiss, > Your grateful child, > muktimaa Aum Amriteshwariyai Namaha! -- In Ammachi, Prajna - Brianna <prajnaji> wrote: > > Michele, Linda, Bala, > > > > I've had the pleasure of having the darshan of several > > masters, and this is my impression; > > > > Some of them really move and inspire me, but never > > towards "themselves," only closer to my own beloved > > Amma. Reading about Neem Karoli Baba has inspired me > > to be more playful and childlike in my relationship > > with Amma. Never have I considered that he was my real > > Guru, but often I get the feeling that Amma "sent" him > > to me. > > > > The same feeling I have for Nisargadatta Maharaj, from > > whom I have learned to have faith in Amma (he attained > > moksha in three years because of his unshakable faith > > in his Guru and his Guru's teaching). > > > > Ramana Maharshi has taught me the value of silence and > > inquiry, so that I could "Be still and know that I am > > God." > > > > Anandamayi Ma showed me how to let love guide me, how > > to bring bliss into the realm of daily experience. > > > > Karunamayi taught me that this is a dream. > > > > Krishna made me fall in love with God. > > > > Rama showed me what real dharma is. > > > > Still other masters I feel almost no "connection" > > with, like Christ, but I understand that they are not > > for me. I strongly believe that one's own master will > > guide one into the right place at the right time. I've > > never wondered if someone else is my Guru, for me > > there is only Amma, and Amma in the form of Neem > > Karoli Baba, Amma in the form of Anandamayi Ma, etc. > > > > We were all sort of anxious about the extremely > > strange location of Devi Bhava in LA. A persian > > wedding had outbid us for the hotel ballroom, so we > > ended up in this wierd, underground, basement > > conference room, with a really low ceiling and giant > > mirrored pillars everywhere. Dayamrita Swami, when > > questioned about it, said, "We should learn to see > > everything that occurs in our lives as coming directly > > from Amma." And DB turned out just beautifully. > > > > There are no accidents in the life of one who is > > surrendering to a Sat Guru. If we feel drawn to or > > inspired by another master, surely it is our own > > beloved calling us there, for aren't they all > > embodiments of the same principle? > > > > Sometimes Amma speaks to me in dreams, sometimes > > through life situations, through pain and longing and > > bhakti and jnana and even through other masters. But I > > believe, with all my heart, that EVERYTHING that is > > happening is coming from Her. > > > > OK, now that's more like my five or six cents.... > > > > all my love, > > > > Prajna > > > > > > > > > > --- Michele Doane Greenstein <ganesh1008@c...> > > wrote: > > > > > nierika@a... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >Michele wrote: > > > > > > > >I know how you feel about "cheating", Erica, I > > > have the same conflict. > > > >But Ram Dais, Neem Karoli Baba > > > >(who I also adore), etc., are so irresistible. As > > > Prajna says - where > > > >does Mother's lap end?.................. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Michele and Prajna ~ I completely understand > > > how you feel. I had to > > > >drop out of the Shree Maa digest, not only because > > > I felt I should make a > > > >choice, but because I just couldn't keep up with > > > all the digests and two somewhat > > > >varied approaches. However, should Shree Maa and > > > Swami come out of seclusion > > > >and tour again, I would not hesitate to see them, > > > just as I would not hesitate > > > >to see Karunamyi or Ram Dass or read books about > > > Neem Karoli Baba and other. > > > >For are we not told that part of spiritual growth > > > is to seek and spend time > > > >in the company of saints and gurus? I don't feel > > > that choosing Amma (or Her > > > >choosing me) as my guru negates the possibility > > > that I visit other Great Souls > > > >if I have the chance. The more Bhava, the better. > > > Jai Ma ~ Linda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Linda, > > > I am in total agreement with you. I think that when > > > we can be with > > > divinity, we should imbibe it > > > (there's that word again) :-) whether is't in the > > > form of the actual > > > saint, or books, or chants, or whatever. It's just > > > that I find myself > > > holding back somehow - not giving that "God in human > > > form" an open > > > heart, as I do with Mother. I was able to be with > > > Karunamayi for a few > > > hours last week, and while it was wonderful, and She > > > is incredible, my > > > heart wasn't as open. I wasn't as much "In love". I > > > did, however, feel > > > myself mellow out and get in touch with the > > > sweetness inside much more > > > than my usual state. That is to say that She did > > > have a big impact on my > > > inner being, and raised me up.I realize that it is > > > my own hang-up. It is > > > incredible grace to be in the company of a realized > > > soul, no matter what > > > body they are in. When I can see them all as the > > > same, and I mean really > > > feel the love and the connection with all divine > > > souls - nay, with > > > everyone and everything, then, well, what more could > > > a person want? > > > Jai Ma! > > > Prasadini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Namah Shivaya, muktimaa and Prajna, I think you both said what we were trying to say - at least what this child was trying to say - but the thoughts, words, wouldn't come. Thank you. Pranams to my brothers and sisters. in gratitude, prasadini muktimaa wrote: > Prajnaji's bottom line > >"Sometimes Amma speaks to me in dreams, sometimes > > >>through life situations, through pain and longing and >>bhakti and jnana and even through other masters. But I >>believe, with all my heart, >> >> > >[Here's the bottom line] "that EVERYTHING that is happening is coming >from Her." > >Jai Maa! i bow and humbly immerse my head in that 'River of Love' > your sister swimming in Maa's Nectar, > muktimaa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- In Ammachi, "muktimaa" <muktimaa@a...> wrote: > > >>-Dear ones, >>Your souls are all so beautiful! i bow to your open, wise >>hearts. And to you specifically, Prajna, your post frankly has me >>weeping out of it's shear beauty. i also have had the great >> >> >privilige > > >>and joy to have sat at the Feet [actually] with some, and others >>through their teachings in the 54 years i have walked this earth >> >> >this > > >>lifetime. >>i think that Swamiji Satyananda Saraswati sums it up very well in >>this excerpt from the introduction to his translation of the Guru >>Gita. [which is contained in the book The Guru and the Goddess >>published by the Devi Mandir.] >> >>He says: "The Guru is actually the Supreme Divinity, and therefore, >>we bow down to the respected Guru. Through all the teachers, >> >> >guides, > > >>inspirations, examples, of every realm of heaven and earth, the >>principle of Guru is what has shown forth. The Guru is actually the >>Supreme Divinity, and ALL OTHER EXPRESSIONS WERE LINKS IN THE CHAIN >>WHICH BROUGHT US TO THAT REALIZATION. >> >>Is it possible to have a confusion of loyalties to the Guru? >>Certainly not. If the Guru is Actually the Supreme Divinity, then >> >> >all > > >>the expressions of that Divinity must be respected, where my >>allegiance must be towards God/Goddess. [muktimaa interjects 'our >>beloved Amma!'] >> >>Jai Guru! Jai Amma! Everything rests on YOUR LAP! Jai Maa! >>Dissolving in Mother's Love and cherishing Her Divine Smile,Healing >>Caress, and Sacred purifying Kiss, >> Your grateful child, >> muktimaa Aum Amriteshwariyai Namaha! >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-- In Ammachi, Prajna - Brianna <prajnaji> >> >> >wrote: > > >>>Michele, Linda, Bala, >>> >>>I've had the pleasure of having the darshan of several >>>masters, and this is my impression; >>> >>>Some of them really move and inspire me, but never >>>towards "themselves," only closer to my own beloved >>>Amma. Reading about Neem Karoli Baba has inspired me >>>to be more playful and childlike in my relationship >>>with Amma. Never have I considered that he was my real >>>Guru, but often I get the feeling that Amma "sent" him >>>to me. >>> >>>The same feeling I have for Nisargadatta Maharaj, from >>>whom I have learned to have faith in Amma (he attained >>>moksha in three years because of his unshakable faith >>>in his Guru and his Guru's teaching). >>> >>>Ramana Maharshi has taught me the value of silence and >>>inquiry, so that I could "Be still and know that I am >>>God." >>> >>>Anandamayi Ma showed me how to let love guide me, how >>>to bring bliss into the realm of daily experience. >>> >>>Karunamayi taught me that this is a dream. >>> >>>Krishna made me fall in love with God. >>> >>>Rama showed me what real dharma is. >>> >>>Still other masters I feel almost no "connection" >>>with, like Christ, but I understand that they are not >>>for me. I strongly believe that one's own master will >>>guide one into the right place at the right time. I've >>>never wondered if someone else is my Guru, for me >>>there is only Amma, and Amma in the form of Neem >>>Karoli Baba, Amma in the form of Anandamayi Ma, etc. >>> >>>We were all sort of anxious about the extremely >>>strange location of Devi Bhava in LA. A persian >>>wedding had outbid us for the hotel ballroom, so we >>>ended up in this wierd, underground, basement >>>conference room, with a really low ceiling and giant >>>mirrored pillars everywhere. Dayamrita Swami, when >>>questioned about it, said, "We should learn to see >>>everything that occurs in our lives as coming directly >>>from Amma." And DB turned out just beautifully. >>> >>>There are no accidents in the life of one who is >>>surrendering to a Sat Guru. If we feel drawn to or >>>inspired by another master, surely it is our own >>>beloved calling us there, for aren't they all >>>embodiments of the same principle? >>> >>>Sometimes Amma speaks to me in dreams, sometimes >>>through life situations, through pain and longing and >>>bhakti and jnana and even through other masters. But I >>>believe, with all my heart, that EVERYTHING that is >>>happening is coming from Her. >>> >>>OK, now that's more like my five or six cents.... >>> >>>all my love, >>> >>>Prajna >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>--- Michele Doane Greenstein <ganesh1008@c...> >>>wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>nierika@a... wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Michele wrote: >>>>> >>>>>I know how you feel about "cheating", Erica, I >>>>> >>>>> >>>>have the same conflict. >>>> >>>> >>>>>But Ram Dais, Neem Karoli Baba >>>>>(who I also adore), etc., are so irresistible. As >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Prajna says - where >>>> >>>> >>>>>does Mother's lap end?.................. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Dear Michele and Prajna ~ I completely understand >>>>> >>>>> >>>>how you feel. I had to >>>> >>>> >>>>>drop out of the Shree Maa digest, not only because >>>>> >>>>> >>>>I felt I should make a >>>> >>>> >>>>>choice, but because I just couldn't keep up with >>>>> >>>>> >>>>all the digests and two somewhat >>>> >>>> >>>>>varied approaches. However, should Shree Maa and >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Swami come out of seclusion >>>> >>>> >>>>>and tour again, I would not hesitate to see them, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>just as I would not hesitate >>>> >>>> >>>>>to see Karunamyi or Ram Dass or read books about >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Neem Karoli Baba and other. >>>> >>>> >>>>>For are we not told that part of spiritual growth >>>>> >>>>> >>>>is to seek and spend time >>>> >>>> >>>>>in the company of saints and gurus? I don't feel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>that choosing Amma (or Her >>>> >>>> >>>>>choosing me) as my guru negates the possibility >>>>> >>>>> >>>>that I visit other Great Souls >>>> >>>> >>>>>if I have the chance. The more Bhava, the better. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Jai Ma ~ Linda >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Dear Linda, >>>>I am in total agreement with you. I think that when >>>>we can be with >>>>divinity, we should imbibe it >>>>(there's that word again) :-) whether is't in the >>>>form of the actual >>>>saint, or books, or chants, or whatever. It's just >>>>that I find myself >>>>holding back somehow - not giving that "God in human >>>>form" an open >>>>heart, as I do with Mother. I was able to be with >>>>Karunamayi for a few >>>>hours last week, and while it was wonderful, and She >>>>is incredible, my >>>>heart wasn't as open. I wasn't as much "In love". I >>>>did, however, feel >>>>myself mellow out and get in touch with the >>>>sweetness inside much more >>>>than my usual state. That is to say that She did >>>>have a big impact on my >>>>inner being, and raised me up.I realize that it is >>>>my own hang-up. It is >>>>incredible grace to be in the company of a realized >>>>soul, no matter what >>>>body they are in. When I can see them all as the >>>>same, and I mean really >>>>feel the love and the connection with all divine >>>>souls - nay, with >>>>everyone and everything, then, well, what more could >>>>a person want? >>>>Jai Ma! >>>>Prasadini >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > >Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > Links > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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