Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Namah Shivaya all First of all- thanks Arun so much for your email regd your fantastic experience. Thank you for sharing your experience. I got back yesterday from Chicago- Amma was in green again ... a great blessing again -almost as if in answer to all our discussions about Mother Meenakshi the emerald green Mother- I wanted to tell you the nayanar swami story and the Meenakshi temple incident. I think the incident that yogaman related was a different one. The nayanar swami story that i read (from vol 4 Awaken children) is different. It seems there was an avadhuta called Nayanar swami who lived in a small room upstairs in a house... He rarely came out of his room and lived in a strange way- (avadhutas are enlightened beings who sometimes live in a strange "crazy" way .. )- his room was full of wooden blocks etc.. Once when Amma and her disciples were going on a trip in south india, Amma's van happened to pass bt the house where Nayanar swami lived. all of a sudden the swami came running out of his house and started jumping on the road, gesticulating for the van to stop. Amma, who was in the van also shouted" there is nayanar swami, stop the van". the van stopped and Amma got down.. Nayanar swami was looking at Her and saying "Kali Kali, the deathless One, Kali Bhadrakali". he then ran to his room and Amma and her other disciples followed. there in th room, Amma sat down on the floor facing Nayanar Swami. He kept saying "kali Kali". All of a sudden, Amma's eyes bulged out, Her toungue came out and an unbroken sound "HRIM" came out from deep within Her. Her hands formed mudras .... and Amma even slighltly levitated. Her body was a few inches above the floor.Seeing Her like this, with tongue hanging out, eyes huge and bulging, and the sound "Hrim" coming out of her throat, many of Amma's disciples got scared. Some even started crying. Nayanar Swmai himself was thoroughly blissful . After a few moments, Amma came back to Her normal state and She left . The swami came out and waited till She got into the van and left. Amma later said that Nayanar swami was a great mahatma, and that She had gone into Kali bhava because the avadhuta wanted to see the bhava. She also said that He himself was in "Shiva bhava" at that time. Amm also said that the avadhuta would leave his body in a couple of years. True enough, in a couple of years, Nayanar swami passed away.The family in whose house he was staying upstairs, later told Amma that after Amma left in the van, the swami was staring in the direction the van went for a long time. He had told the family " Do you know who that was? That was Kali, BhadraKali ". thats the Nayanr swami story. The Meenakshi temple story was as Yogaman related. Only thing in Vol 7 , there is no mention of Amma's father having taken her there. It was a different family. It seems a family of devotees coaxed Amma on going to the Meenakshi temple. She first refused then agreed to go. On entering the temple, the moment Amma saw the Sanctum of the Divine Mother, Amma went into samadhi. The only thing was, Her body was in the standing in the same pose as the statue of the Divine Mother - one leg bent, one hand raised , the other along the side- all exactly as the Idol of the Divine Mother Meenakshi. The family was stunned. They didnt know what to do. Amma was standing like that for 1.5 hours! as Yogaman said, the pujari came and did Arati to mma . ( a family who lives in madurai told me that the Pujari even put Mother Meenakshi's crown on Amma! wow. ) Amma was standing like that for an hour or so, when all of a sudden an old lady came on the scene. She told the family "What ?Dont you know that THAT ONE( pointing to the Idol of Mother Meenakshi), and THIS ONE ( pointing to Amma) are one and the same? Chant the Meenakshi stotram ( a hymn in praise of Mother Meenakshi. The family slowly started chanting the famous hymn to Meenakshi : " shrI vidye shiva-vAma-bhAga-nilaye shrIrAjarAjArchite shrInAthAdi guru svarUpa vibhave chintAmaNi pIThike | shrIvANi girijA nutA.nghrikamale shrI shAMbavi shrI shive madhyAhne maladhvAjAdhipa sudhe mAM pAhi mInAmbike ". And as the family was chanting, the old lady who came from nowhere, fell at Amma's feet, hugging Her feet. Slowly Amma came out of samadhi,bent down , hugged the old lady and returned to Her normal state. The old lady suddenly went away- no one knows who she was, where she came from or where she went. After this the family realised that Amma is The Divine Mother Herself, and that there was no point in trying to take Amma to the temple- as She Herself is the deity being worshipped there! Thats the Meenakshi temple story. and now for MY little story from YESTERDAY! yesterday Amma was in green in Chicago Devi bhava. .when I went up for darshan , I happened to tell Amma "Amma looks so beautiful in green" .. to which Amma playfully replied to my wife " He ( one of the swamis) used to say I am Meenakshi !!!!! ". wow. Jai Meenakshi Amriteshwari. Namah Shivaya bala "B. Arun Raj" <arunraj wrote: Dear siblings of Amma... as promised, here is the first of this child's experiences of Amma's Divine form... first, let me relate something from my childhood... i started learning yoga at school at the age of 9, after my father insisted its good for health. i enjoyed it a lot & practiced meditation at home & at our family's Kali temple at my mother's native home. sometimes, when the meditation sessions were particularly intense, i remember hearing two distinct sounds, that were simply unforgettable. as i child, i never knew what they were, nor did i ask anyone, as i found it difficult to express them. one sounded like a earth shattering growl & another sounded like the word "hum" (with the "u" as it sounds in "boom"). it sounded frightening at times... but never bothered to enquire, as i got accustomed to hearing it.. just considered it as another passing cloud. several years later... it was vacation time at college.. and like all vacations, our gang of young devotees doing our graduation at cochin (where Amma's 50th birthday celebrations were held) fled to Amritapuri (which was hardly 2 hours drive away) to spent time there. but, for me this vacation was slightly different from the earlier ones, bcoz... i just dont know what got into me, all i could think of was about performing Kali sadhana (special practices done after midnight to appease Kali). i took it for just another chilish spiritual adventure, and did not give it much regard. one morning during the stay at Amma's Ashram, i was going to the thidappali (where prasad is made for the puja in the Kalari temple), when i suddenly stood still, i kind of lost my senses... my head was spinning.. it could be from the lack of rest & sleep, i thought... but, within a few moments, forgot the world around me, even the body no longer seem to be there. all i could feel was some strong messages within... one of which was to perform Kali Sadhana & and that i had been with Amma in my previous births. after this brief loss, rested in front of the Kalari for few moments until i regained my composure & went back to work in the press. i had decided that i'll meet Swamiji later that day (i do not prefer to reveal his name... i chose to meet him, bcoz, i knew he had seen Amma's Kali form before). later that day, met him in his room & expressed my intense desire to perform practices related to Kali. He looked at me for a while & said that i had done practices in a previous birth. but, do not recommend any at this time, as the practices might adversely effect my engineering graduation studies. He was excited as he spoke a lot about Kali & mentioned that Amma is Kali Herself. the conversation with Swamiji that night left a deep impression in my heart.. something had changed within.. i was determined.. now, i just had to see Her.. my Divine Mother, Kali. all i could think of was meeting Her in person. at that point in time, i did not have the slightest idea about what i was going to experience. i was aware that Amma knew my every thought, but, could not gain any darshan in Her Kali form during the period of my stay at the Ashram. maybe She wanted to see how dedicated i was. we received Amma's darshan as usual & left for cochin after a week. the next saturday, i was attending the weekly bhajans at the local ashram branch. the final bhajan was "jhilam jhilam..." which was about Ma Kali. i was seated at the back end of the hall, with no one near me. it was about the middle of the song when, the lights went out. the speakers were running on battery. i felt an intense longing to see Amma.. with eyes closed, i called Her with all my heart. at one point, i felt a growing presense before me.. it was so strong, it forced me to come out of the state of absorption i was in & opened my eyes..... i could not see any of the devotees in front.. just effulgent light ....then 2 huge bare legs emerged from it a few meters ahead of me... the figure loomed high.. it was tall, maybe around 30 feet or more, i had to strain my head as i looked up... was simply petrified when i saw it..... it was THE FORM... a dark female form with disheavelled hair... bones & skulls hanging down.. i cannot describe how dreadful it looked.. wished i could run away.. but my body would'nt budge... it felt like a immoveable corpse...the body would'nt respond. at the same time, felt an electric shock pass thought my whole system... like a thunderbolt had struck me. as i watched Her... She was moving... the tongue was hanging down from Her mouth... it was so awsome, i had no choice but to surrender.... soon my mind accepted the Form.. knew it was Amma.. from Her eyes, just knew it was Her. soon the fear boiled down & was replaced with love... Her intense compassion overwhelmed me. i too felt intense love develop towards Her. then, saw Swamiji near Her left leg... who looked very small in front of Her... saw him get absorbed into Her form. i could feel my nervous system overflowing with energy.. as if blocked pipes all got open suddenly & was flowing with light. what i felt within is inexpressible. felt like i longer was there... it was just Her. it was so so moving (was not aware of it then, but one of my friends told me later that i was crying continously during & after the Kali bhajan). dont remember how long it went. when i opened my eyes... the lights were back & saw the last of the devotees receive their prasad... the bhajans were over & prasad distribution almost complete. the body was still not responding to my commands. sat there with eyes closed for quite some time. after everyone left, slowly got up, collected prasad from the plate near Amma's photo & went home. on the way, eventhough it was dark, i felt only light within & without... as if the whole world was Ma Kali's form & felt it was overflowing with a heart warming effulgence everywhere i looked. knew i was in love with Her. from that day, i started addressing Amma as "Kali Amma". even today, that massive Form brings chills all over. but, m no longer frightened, bcoz m in love with Her. later came to know more about the sounds i used to hear during the meditation sessions as a kid... that which sounded like a growl was Her laugher & "hum" was the mantra syllable Kali utters.. when She awakens the kundalini. if Amma wishes, will post more experiences in the future. at Her Lotus Feet, Her child. 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Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 > > The family slowly started chanting the famous hymn > to Meenakshi : > > " shrI vidye shiva-vAma-bhAga-nilaye > shrIrAjarAjArchite > shrInAthAdi guru svarUpa vibhave chintAmaNi pIThike > | > shrIvANi girijA nutA.nghrikamale shrI shAMbavi shrI > shive > madhyAhne maladhvAjAdhipa sudhe mAM pAhi mInAmbike > ". The above transliteration, with a mix of upper and lower case, looks like Klingon In Klingon, upper and lower case letters represent different phonetic values, giving the Klingon alphabet effectively 56 letters. I'm not a die-hard Trekkie; my interest in Klingon is for linguistic purposes only. For more on Klingon, visit the Klingon Language Institute http://www.kli.org/ Keval (awaiting Amma's Klingon version of Iswar Tumhi!) __ Start your day with - make it your home page http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 > > He kept saying "kali Kali". >Amma's disciples got scared. Some even started crying. > Ah! So there is Kali and Hrim again-have been some discussion of Kali and hrim lately. Bala, I must have been talking about the same story-read it many years ago. The Meenakshi story was recounted by Amma's father and it is on amritapuri.org site- but certainly Amma's fathers recapitulation was not as good as yours !!! > > yesterday Amma was in green in Chicago Devi bhava. .when I went >up for darshan , I happened to tell Amma "Amma looks so beautiful in >green" .. to which Amma playfully replied to my wife " He ( one of >the swamis) used to say I am Meenakshi !!!!! ". > LOLllllllllllllllllll!! For some reason I associate the color green with Meenakshi - not sure if it is from some dhyana sloka or from the movie -Madhurai Meenakshi:-). -yogaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Well i go the transliteration from ambaa.org- the special mix of upper and lower case is to ensure proper pronunciation of the syllables "A" is "aa" ( as in aah), and "a" is "shiva". bala Mike Brooker <patria1818 wrote: > > The family slowly started chanting the famous hymn > to Meenakshi : > > " shrI vidye shiva-vAma-bhAga-nilaye > shrIrAjarAjArchite > shrInAthAdi guru svarUpa vibhave chintAmaNi pIThike > | > shrIvANi girijA nutA.nghrikamale shrI shAMbavi shrI > shive > madhyAhne maladhvAjAdhipa sudhe mAM pAhi mInAmbike > ". The above transliteration, with a mix of upper and lower case, looks like Klingon In Klingon, upper and lower case letters represent different phonetic values, giving the Klingon alphabet effectively 56 letters. I'm not a die-hard Trekkie; my interest in Klingon is for linguistic purposes only. For more on Klingon, visit the Klingon Language Institute http://www.kli.org/ Keval (awaiting Amma's Klingon version of Iswar Tumhi!) __ Start your day with - make it your home page http://www./r/hs Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Beliefs of hinduism Different religions beliefs Hinduism religion Ammachi Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. Ammachi Start your day with - make it your home page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Yogaman, Meenakshi is always depicted in green. In fact the shade of green that She wears and Her compexion itself is that shade is called "Meenakshi pachai" in tamil ( "pachai" is tamil for green.) Mata Maragata shyama matangi .... Maragata is "emerald". if I am not mistaken the statue itself in the Madurai Meenakshi temple is made of emerald. bala childofdevi <childofdevi wrote: > > He kept saying "kali Kali". >Amma's disciples got scared. Some even started crying. > Ah! So there is Kali and Hrim again-have been some discussion of Kali and hrim lately. Bala, I must have been talking about the same story-read it many years ago. The Meenakshi story was recounted by Amma's father and it is on amritapuri.org site- but certainly Amma's fathers recapitulation was not as good as yours !!! > > yesterday Amma was in green in Chicago Devi bhava. .when I went >up for darshan , I happened to tell Amma "Amma looks so beautiful in >green" .. to which Amma playfully replied to my wife " He ( one of >the swamis) used to say I am Meenakshi !!!!! ". > LOLllllllllllllllllll!! For some reason I associate the color green with Meenakshi - not sure if it is from some dhyana sloka or from the movie -Madhurai Meenakshi:-). -yogaman Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. Ammachi Start your day with - make it your home page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Bala, Yes maybe thats what I am thinking of. Meenakshi being of green hue. Visited the temple many years ago, absolutely wonderful. How much more wonderful it would have been with Amma there!! -yogaman Ammachi, balakrishnan Shankar <balakrishnan_sh> wrote: > Yogaman, > > Meenakshi is always depicted in green. In fact the shade of green that She wears and Her compexion itself is that shade is called "Meenakshi pachai" in tamil ( "pachai" is tamil for green.) > > Mata Maragata shyama matangi .... Maragata is "emerald". if I am not mistaken the statue itself in the Madurai Meenakshi temple is made of emerald. > > bala > > > > childofdevi <childofdevi> wrote: > > > > > He kept saying "kali Kali". > >Amma's disciples got scared. Some even started crying. > > > > Ah! So there is Kali and Hrim again-have been some discussion of Kali > and hrim lately. > > Bala, I must have been talking about the same story-read it many > years ago. The Meenakshi story was recounted by Amma's father and it > is on amritapuri.org site- but certainly Amma's fathers > recapitulation was not as good as yours !!! > > > > > > yesterday Amma was in green in Chicago Devi bhava. .when I went > >up for darshan , I happened to tell Amma "Amma looks so beautiful in > >green" .. to which Amma playfully replied to my wife " He ( one of > >the swamis) used to say I am Meenakshi !!!!! ". > > > > LOLllllllllllllllllll!! For some reason I associate the color green > with Meenakshi - not sure if it is from some dhyana sloka or from the > movie -Madhurai Meenakshi:-). > > -yogaman > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > > > Visit your group "Ammachi" on the web. > > > Ammachi > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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