Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 What does Amma say to devotees who come to her who are worried about money? I couldn't find anything on her website and its seems like a common issue that people face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Ammachi, "S. Crypps" <scrypps> wrote: > > > What does Amma say to devotees who come to her who are worried about money? I couldn't find anything on her website and its seems like a common issue that people face. Good questions. I offer you an asnwer here, based only on my understanding of Amma's actions; I am not quoting from any published material for this post. Here is the best part. Amma neither condemns that desire nor rejoices. She is simply a Saakshi (impersonal witness) to the tormented soul's desire for money; desire being so much that (s)he could not create it (her)himself and had to come to Amma to ask for blessings. Once the problem is understood (the cause for the worry), the matru bhava (Compassionate Motherhood feeling) wells up and She offers the most appropriate solution to ease the child's burden. This relates to an interesting point. The words you use while you are asking the question are very important, and even more so the intent and the feeling packed behind the words. So if you ask "Amma I need money", she will likely say "ok". Note - Saakshi Bhava in action. Since you did not say that you expect Amma to provide you the money, She will recognize your need but likely not act on it. if you ask "Amma will you bless me with more money in my life?", she will likely say "Amma will do a sankalpa for you to satisfy your desire" or something like "try your hand at .... to make money" if you ask "is money good for me?" she will give the answer based on what she looks in you and for your best future interests. if you ask "is money good for me SPIRITUALLY?" (the differntiator in the question), she will give the answer based on what she looks in you and for your best future interests. (usually the answer will be "no" but it could be a "yes" for a few interesting souls too) if you ask "what should be my attitude regarding money?" she will give another appropriate answer based on your samskaras and your unique life-paradigm. ...... You get the picture, don't you? MORAL OF THE STORY: 1. Be careful about what you are asking for, you might just get it! 2. Around a non-personality like Amma (i.e. devoid of personal motivations and selfish gains), questions need to be asked with the highest humility, respect, and after deep thought and analysis, and with the best choice of words that represent your need. Based on how we ask the question, we may invoke the Impersonal Witness (Saakshi), the Compassionate (Karuna) Mother , the Mischievous (Lalita) Mother, or if the question is really disrespectful of what She holds dear (i.e. devotees), then the terrifying Kali Ma too could manifest. There could be other moods that get manifested too. Don't get carried away by the names of the Goddess; I don't mean to say that these Goddesses will be manifested (and now that I have said it, who knows they might very well manifest just to teach me a lesson in humility); I only meant to say the Bhava (mood) represented by these Goddesses is manifested in Amma. 3. The 2nd moral basically means that Amma is a reflection of what we want Her to be! The dynamic manifestations of the various bhavas based on our inputs are, to my mind, her finest performance of the Saakshi-bhava attitude! Jai Ma! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Please read the section on Lalithasahasranama(it is at www.ammachi.org??). I think you will find the answer there. -yogaman Ammachi, "S. Crypps" <scrypps> wrote: > > > What does Amma say to devotees who come to her who are worried about money? I couldn't find anything on her website and its seems like a common issue that people face. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Jai Ma, i think the explanation given by you is just perfect. i understand what u mean here. There has been alot of instances when i have also prayed to amma to solve financial problems not ask for money and she will somehow give you an answer atleast you will manage to solve that problem at that moment . Of course financial problems are always ever;lasting but i donno i will somehow manage. Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha manoj_menon <ammasmon wrote: Ammachi, "S. Crypps" <scrypps> wrote: > > > What does Amma say to devotees who come to her who are worried about money? I couldn't find anything on her website and its seems like a common issue that people face. Good questions. I offer you an asnwer here, based only on my understanding of Amma's actions; I am not quoting from any published material for this post. Here is the best part. Amma neither condemns that desire nor rejoices. She is simply a Saakshi (impersonal witness) to the tormented soul's desire for money; desire being so much that (s)he could not create it (her)himself and had to come to Amma to ask for blessings. Once the problem is understood (the cause for the worry), the matru bhava (Compassionate Motherhood feeling) wells up and She offers the most appropriate solution to ease the child's burden. This relates to an interesting point. The words you use while you are asking the question are very important, and even more so the intent and the feeling packed behind the words. So if you ask "Amma I need money", she will likely say "ok". Note - Saakshi Bhava in action. Since you did not say that you expect Amma to provide you the money, She will recognize your need but likely not act on it. if you ask "Amma will you bless me with more money in my life?", she will likely say "Amma will do a sankalpa for you to satisfy your desire" or something like "try your hand at .... to make money" if you ask "is money good for me?" she will give the answer based on what she looks in you and for your best future interests. if you ask "is money good for me SPIRITUALLY?" (the differntiator in the question), she will give the answer based on what she looks in you and for your best future interests. (usually the answer will be "no" but it could be a "yes" for a few interesting souls too) if you ask "what should be my attitude regarding money?" she will give another appropriate answer based on your samskaras and your unique life-paradigm. ....... You get the picture, don't you? MORAL OF THE STORY: 1. Be careful about what you are asking for, you might just get it! 2. Around a non-personality like Amma (i.e. devoid of personal motivations and selfish gains), questions need to be asked with the highest humility, respect, and after deep thought and analysis, and with the best choice of words that represent your need. Based on how we ask the question, we may invoke the Impersonal Witness (Saakshi), the Compassionate (Karuna) Mother , the Mischievous (Lalita) Mother, or if the question is really disrespectful of what She holds dear (i.e. devotees), then the terrifying Kali Ma too could manifest. There could be other moods that get manifested too. Don't get carried away by the names of the Goddess; I don't mean to say that these Goddesses will be manifested (and now that I have said it, who knows they might very well manifest just to teach me a lesson in humility); I only meant to say the Bhava (mood) represented by these Goddesses is manifested in Amma. 3. The 2nd moral basically means that Amma is a reflection of what we want Her to be! The dynamic manifestations of the various bhavas based on our inputs are, to my mind, her finest performance of the Saakshi-bhava attitude! Jai Ma! Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ Ammachi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Dear S., this is a big topic, about what Amma says about money. Money is a difficult and practical issue that we all have to try and and deal with in a correct way; anyway the issue is difficult for me, and has been so for my whole life. Amma says that if we want to change the environmental circumstances we are in, or a situation, we should first change ourselves and our attitude, and then the circumstances will change automatically. She says that most of the time people are working first at trying to change the circumstances without changing themselves, and that this is the incorrect approach. I do not remember where I read this but if it is important to you, I will try to find an exact reference. Amma's words are the guidlines for my life. I , myself, am always trying to work on myself, and leaving it in Her hands to take care of the circumstances and situations in my life. And as an aside, I might add that I do not live in fairy tale land and life is a rough go for me on a daily basis, especially because of my physical illnesses and limitations. Here is something Amma said about money: Quoted from Amma's message in Matruvani, June 2004, page 4. OFFERRING TO GOD (title of article) "... What brings any act to fruition is grace. That is why we should have the attitude of offering everything to God before accepting it. ... Through this action, we are expressing the awareness that life doesn't revolve around us alone but involves sharing with others. It is also an act of surrendering what our mind is attached to. Look at what our minds are attached to: in 90% of the cases we will see that the attachment is to money. At the time of dividing the family property, if we get 10 coconut trees less than our share entitles us to, we will not hesitate to drag even our mother to court. A prospective groom does not just consider the bride's family background; he also inquires into how much wealth the family has. Exceptions to this are rare. So, the mind is attached to wealth. Freeing the mind from this attachment is no simple matter. An easier way is to offer our mind to God. When we offer our mind to God, it gets purified. ..." Hope this helps. In Amma's Love, sarama - -- In Ammachi, "S. Crypps" <scrypps> wrote: > > What does Amma say to devotees who come to her who are worried about money? I couldn't find anything on her website and its seems like a common issue that people face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 > -- In Ammachi, "S. Crypps" <scrypps> wrote: > > > > What does Amma say to devotees who come to her who are worried about > money? I couldn't find anything on her website and its seems like a > common issue that people face. It is my feeling that no-one is attached to money per se. One imagines that money will give one power/companionship/security etc. What one is more attached to is freedom from fear. If/when one sees that money doesn't really remove fear, or causes more mental unrest than it cures, then it is dropped readily. I did ask Amma on her last tour how I could overcome my slavery to money. She told me that it has to come as a behavioral change (character change, perhaps; I am trying to translate what she said), and cannot be done all at once. Good luck with your money issues, if you have any. Nandu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Manoj Your answer is simply profound. Not only with regard to money, but in everything Amma's answer can differ according to the need/hour/bhava of the questioner. Very well put. also thanks for the beauiful phrase "a non-personality like Amma"... i would rather say a an "Impersonality lke Amma".. The fact that Amma is Impersonal enables Her to be many personalities all at once- from sweet Lalitha to mischievous Krishna to Furious Kali .. but yet She remains in all these the same Impersonal Love. thanks! bala manoj_menon <ammasmon wrote: Ammachi, "S. Crypps" <scrypps> wrote: > > > What does Amma say to devotees who come to her who are worried about money? I couldn't find anything on her website and its seems like a common issue that people face. Good questions. I offer you an asnwer here, based only on my understanding of Amma's actions; I am not quoting from any published material for this post. Here is the best part. Amma neither condemns that desire nor rejoices. She is simply a Saakshi (impersonal witness) to the tormented soul's desire for money; desire being so much that (s)he could not create it (her)himself and had to come to Amma to ask for blessings. Once the problem is understood (the cause for the worry), the matru bhava (Compassionate Motherhood feeling) wells up and She offers the most appropriate solution to ease the child's burden. This relates to an interesting point. The words you use while you are asking the question are very important, and even more so the intent and the feeling packed behind the words. So if you ask "Amma I need money", she will likely say "ok". Note - Saakshi Bhava in action. Since you did not say that you expect Amma to provide you the money, She will recognize your need but likely not act on it. if you ask "Amma will you bless me with more money in my life?", she will likely say "Amma will do a sankalpa for you to satisfy your desire" or something like "try your hand at .... to make money" if you ask "is money good for me?" she will give the answer based on what she looks in you and for your best future interests. if you ask "is money good for me SPIRITUALLY?" (the differntiator in the question), she will give the answer based on what she looks in you and for your best future interests. (usually the answer will be "no" but it could be a "yes" for a few interesting souls too) if you ask "what should be my attitude regarding money?" she will give another appropriate answer based on your samskaras and your unique life-paradigm. ....... You get the picture, don't you? MORAL OF THE STORY: 1. Be careful about what you are asking for, you might just get it! 2. Around a non-personality like Amma (i.e. devoid of personal motivations and selfish gains), questions need to be asked with the highest humility, respect, and after deep thought and analysis, and with the best choice of words that represent your need. Based on how we ask the question, we may invoke the Impersonal Witness (Saakshi), the Compassionate (Karuna) Mother , the Mischievous (Lalita) Mother, or if the question is really disrespectful of what She holds dear (i.e. devotees), then the terrifying Kali Ma too could manifest. There could be other moods that get manifested too. Don't get carried away by the names of the Goddess; I don't mean to say that these Goddesses will be manifested (and now that I have said it, who knows they might very well manifest just to teach me a lesson in humility); I only meant to say the Bhava (mood) represented by these Goddesses is manifested in Amma. 3. The 2nd moral basically means that Amma is a reflection of what we want Her to be! The dynamic manifestations of the various bhavas based on our inputs are, to my mind, her finest performance of the Saakshi-bhava attitude! Jai Ma! Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ Ammachi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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