Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Dear Brothers and Sisters, Please don't consider 'Schitoor' as a flamer or an exception. He is acting only as per the instructions of his political masters. Of late there have been continuous 'Aethist' onslaughts against AMMA and Her esteemed organisation. A powerful political party (CPM) has identified a serous threat to it due to the fact that more and more Keralites are turning to spirituality and availing it's eternal benefits. Also a group of 'selfish religious heads' have identified 'AMMA' as a threat to their legacy. These vested interests are using selfish persons like Sukumar Azhikkode (His fee for a meeting is Rs. 2000 plus petrol for car), Sacharia ( He wants to sell his books at any cost) as well as 'remote-controlled' organisations like DYFI and the political -slave Kairali-TV to lead series of malicious campaigns against what they call 'Human Gods'. AMMA is a symbol of the renowned Indian Spirituality. She has never claimed Herself to be a Goddess (Those who know sriptures accept GURU to be equal to God). However, millions of Her followers have experienced Her divine grace in thier day-to-day lives. Just prior to the 'Psunami disaster' about 5000 of AMMA's disciples were watching near Amrita-puri sea-shore the strange withdrwal of Sea. Suddenly AMMA had a divine feeling of the disaster and called back all Her devotees from sea-shore. Also She gave instructions to move the parked vehicles to safe places. As a result of these quick actions, AMMA's devotees were saved from sure death ( See attached article of Kerala Kaumudi). People like E.M.S and Nayanar had taught 'Aethism' to their followers, but the wives and children of these two leaders have followed ' IDOL WORSHIP ' in letter and spirit. EMS dutifully escorted his wife to Guruvayoor and NAYANAR's cremation was done as per Hindu rituals. These leaders failed miserably to convince Aethism to their own families !. However, their followers have kept a blind eye towards these events and are spoiling themselves. You all can see in the attached article how AMMA and Her followers have helped the victims of 'Psunami'. On the other hand the immensely rich CPM is forcibly collecting Rs.I crore from the public to help the Victims ( They don't find it necessary to spend from their party fund)!!. AMMA has never forced any one to follow her ideology. AMMA has not asked money from any one . She has never tried to strengthen Her organissation by the merciless way of creating 'matryrs' . She has not killed anoyone or destroyed any single family. She has not created religious rivalry. Still , millions of Indians and Foreigners are adoring this huble Saint. People belonging to all religions are benefiting from Her charity. Even CPM 's 'revolutionary' State Secretary's children are in Her professional colleges . If AMMA does not have Supernatural power who has ?. Krishnan Aaroamal <aaroamal wrote: Dear Members, I happy to share with you some background to this flamer "schittoor". He is evidently a regular flamer in other groups too, where I am member. So, please ignore him, if at all you happen to cross his postings in future. Looks like he lives in the virtual world, rather than amidst reality on the ground. I appreciate Keval's moderation style, as he explained in one of the last messages. Please let Keval maintain freedom of _expression, which is the basis of any civilized society. Love Aaroamal Ammachi, "chembalacnair" <chembalacnair> wrote: > > > Ammachi, "schittoor" <schittoor> wrote: > > Dear Moderator.... > > I don't understand why are you allowing Schitoor to SHIT again and > again. Just disable his membership. > > In response to his recent posting - although it's negative - I would > like to note down something that Amma quoted once: > > "Those who truly absorb spirituality and live according to Dharma do > not experience sorrow. What is the use of just sitting and crying if > your hand is cut? You have to apply a salve to the wound. If you > just sit and cry, the wound could become infected and you could even > die. Suppose someone verbally abuses you and you react by sitting in > a corner and crying. You are unhappy because you have accepted the > abuse. If you don't accept it, it becomes that person's problem, not > yours. So you have to disown it. If you act with discrimination in > this way, you will attain freedom from suffering." > > Chandran-Dubai > Ever in Amma's Service > > Ammachi, "ammasiswari" <ammasiswari> > wrote: > > > > I don't understand why this person is posting here. I have no > issue with people asking > > questions about Amma (e.g., "could She have forseen the > disaster?") or writing about > > difficulties in their relationship with Amma, but this post just > seems downright hostile, > > implying some kind of nefarious scheming on Amma's part, in > offering relief aid to victims > > of the tsunami...and referring to Her ashram as a *crime > syndicate*, for goodness sake! > > > > Finally, does it matter whether or not Amma was in the "forefront" > of the relief efforts > > immediately (in terms of total cost of aid offered)? She was > unquestionably in the trenches. > > > > Namah Shivaya, > > Iswari > > > > Ammachi, "schittoor" <schittoor> wrote: > > > > > > 100 crores (=1 billion rupees = 1000 million rupees) is > comparable to > > > the amounts promised by some of the rich nations. 23 million > dollars. > > > Even the USA's initial contribution was only 35 million dollars! > In > > > the carefully rehersed press conference Mata was asked how she > > > couldn't foresee the disaster. She said " I have never claimed > to > > > have such powers. I am only doing charity work!". Also Mayi was > > > checking with her assistants on things like place names as > famous > > > as 'Velanakanni'. Here you see an ordinary woman talking. So > powers, > > > no sidhis, no magic. Confronted directly Mayi runs away from the > > > mircale claims. > > > As for the aid of 100 crores, the mata Ashram was cleverly > waiting > > > for almost a week. Mata Mayi groups were NOT in the forefront of > the > > > relief efforts in the early days. Many others were. Mata is > coming, > > > when people have already started leaving the camps. Mata Mayi > Mafia > > > have estimated the damage. Besides the human casualties economic > > > damage in Kerala is not very big... at least easily manageable > by the > > > Govt and the aids already promised. Mata Mayi is diving in now > > > knowing that not even a fraction of the promised 100 crores will > be > > > really used/required. > > > > > > -Posted in another site by I Junior Ezhavas/ Ezhavas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 I dont remember which volume of Awaken Children it was that Amma did not want to perform a miracle but finally under circumstances performed one in front of people . However Amma is not about lavishing miracles such is true nature of true master as not to mesmerize crowds with sheer siddhis abilities . Amma mentioned it few times that a true Guru should not go around materializing things to show off , that is not what She came here for . I also don't think she will satisfy appetites of the curious once proclaiming I am the God of the ages to save humanity , Amma stays humble under all kinds of circumstances and gives us the benefit of doubt . She gives us answers as true master of Zen , master that teaches students through questions rather than materializing quick shiny answers . Her answer is rather simple it is my children who did the work . Many times when asked about if she is Kali her response is I am to my children whatever they want me to be . Namaste , Joanna P All your favorites on one personal page – Try My Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Joanna-ji, Miracles happen all the time around Amma. In my experience it happens when you least expect it, or have no expectations of anything miraculous happening. The moment the thought of "Amma, please show me a miracle" arises, I am very sure that at that time nothing will happen. If someone wants a miracle from Amma, then my own opinion is to earnestly pray to Amma for it, and then to totally forget it; it will happen when you LEAST expect it. When Devi Herself comes in human form, how can She not perform a few miracles for Her beloved children. As you have correctly pointed out, Amma does not run public magic shows like producing trinkets out of thin air- there are plenty of other people doing that, so why Amma need to do it. -yogaman/Vijay Ammachi, joanna pollner <joannapollner> wrote: > I dont remember which volume of Awaken Children it was > that > Amma did not want to perform a miracle but finally > under circumstances performed one in front of people . > However Amma is not about lavishing miracles such is > true nature of true master as not to mesmerize crowds > with sheer siddhis abilities . Amma mentioned it few > times that a true Guru should not go around > materializing things to show off , that is not what > She came here for . I also don't think she will > satisfy appetites of the curious once proclaiming I am > the God of the ages to save humanity , Amma stays > humble under all kinds of circumstances and gives us > the benefit of doubt . She gives us answers as true > master of Zen , master that teaches students through > questions rather than materializing quick shiny > answers . Her answer is rather simple it is my > children who did the work . Many times when asked > about if she is Kali her response is I am to my > children whatever they want me to be . > > Namaste , Joanna P > > > > > > All your favorites on one personal page – Try My > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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