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Ammachi, Mike Brooker <patria1818> wrote:

> Forwarding the following item FYI and as requested..

>

> Keval

>

> >

> > Greetings & Namaste,

> >

> > I've just completed a major paper on the question of

> > whether or not

> > Hinduism actually teaches that all religions are the

> > same, an idea that I

> > call Radical Universalism. This issue has become

> > the most paralyzing and

> > crucial philosophical issue that Hinduism has faced

> > in the last 200 years.

> >

> > The on-line version of the paper is located here:

> >

> > http://www.dharmacentral.com/universalism.htm

 

Namaste,

 

His first mistep is considering Hinduism as a Religion

> in the Western sense, when in fact it is an umbrella. He talks

about

> not persecuting Jews or Parsees without understanding that

Hinduism

> or Sanathana Dharma predates Religion. Nor does he mention the

persecution of castes and other religions, by fundamentalists.

>

> It is only in the last few thousand years of human history that

> organised religion became a fact. More particularly in the last

two

> thousand years with especially Judaism, Islam and Christianity.

One

> cannot measure this as a template against Hinduism for Hinduism is

a

> spiritual more than a religious base.

>

> He obviously doesn't understand what Hindus mean when they say all

> religions are equal. He has no idea of who and what Ramakrishna

was

> or even Vivekananda. He even misreads the idea of Jesus who became

> the Christ.

>

> He misunderstands the attitude of the British Colonialists during

> this time as well. Some of the more evangelical types no doubt

> considered any non Christian religion, or their version anyway, as

> idolatry, and there was much racism as well. However many of the

Colonialists understood well the

> situation, learned the languages and Sanskrit, and even

participated

> in the establishment of pre-independence movements.

>

> I haven't finished going over it but so far it seems more suitable

> to the academic rather than the practitioner. Not that this is

wrong

> but it is just apples and oranges. From an academic point of view

it

> is no doubt a good paper.

 

Frank also omits the millions killed in communal riots in the 1940s,

but he does mention the RSS. The RSS, Bal Thackery's Siva Sena and

the BJP, who were the last government, have many members who espouse

the Hindtva or Hindu Fundamentalism combined with Nationalism. This

is against the all inclusiveness of Sanathana Dharma, and has

resulted in the last ten years,in the sacking of the Mosque at,

Ayodhya, the buring of Mosques and massacre of Muslims in W.India

and the burning of Churches and massacre of Christians, particularly

in South India. I remember an entire Australian family were

massacred and they had been doing charity work for many, many years.

This fundamentalist tva is putting the Sudras/Vaisyas in the chair,

which is of course the norm in the West anyway.It goes against all

the traditions of Sanathana Dharma really.

 

Frank goes on about the only true Hindu is a follower of the Veda.

Well that'll cause a lot of trouble for many sects that haven't read

them. Also Siva probably predates the Vedas as written down.

Although the Upanishads reveal the truth. I don't know what he

thinks of Buddha being regarded as one of the Dasa-Avatars either.

 

Frank seems to be much in the Hindutva camp and as such IMO

> > is missing the essence of Sanathana Dharma. As you know this

type of

> > thinking, Bal Thackery etc, has brought nothing but sectarian

riots

> > and killings in India, particularly in the last ten years or so,

> > beginning with the Mosque at Ayodhya. I found it rather non

> > representative of Hinduism. In fact anything that creates

> > fundamentalism and exclusiveness where there was none before is

> > unhealthy.......I really don'nt think he has penetrated the

Dharma for

> > meaning notwithstanding the fact he does pujas......Universalism

is the essence of Sanathana Dharma not

Fundamentalism.......ONS..Tony.

 

ONS....Tony.

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Dear Keval,

 

I'm curious why you posted this here, and what you believe Amma would say about

it?

 

Namah Shivaya,

Iswari

 

Ammachi, Mike Brooker <patria1818> wrote:

> Forwarding the following item FYI and as requested..

>

> Keval

>

> > While the paper is

> > certainly meant to be read by each and every

> > concerned Hindu, it has been

> > especially created with Hindu leaders, Hindu

> > intellectuals and Hindu

> > activists as its main audience.

> >

> > If you find the paper helpful and informative, I

> > would ask that you please

> > assist me in distributing it to as large and wide an

> > audience as possible.

> >

> > Please forward this information to any friends,

> > lists or discussion groups

> > that would find it interesting

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Tony,

I have been reading news on India pretty

regulalrly.One mosque had been borught down(the one in

ayodhya) yo claim burining of mosques(infact it is

just one).As far as burning of churches,massacre of

chirstians in S India where did you get the news.I am

from S India there has been no massacre of chirstians

there or burinign of churches.Yes 2 missionaries where

killed in Orissa(only one such incident happened in

the last 10 years or so).But it doesnt amount to

massacre.2 christians getting killed is not a

massacre.Please get your facts checked up.

Rajan

Frank also omits the millions killed in communal riots

in the 1940s,

but he does mention the RSS. The RSS, Bal Thackery's

Siva Sena and

the BJP, who were the last government, have many

members who espouse

the Hindtva or Hindu Fundamentalism combined with

Nationalism. This

is against the all inclusiveness of Sanathana Dharma,

and has

resulted in the last ten years,in the sacking of the

Mosque at,

Ayodhya, the buring of Mosques and massacre of Muslims

in W.India

and the burning of Churches and massacre of

Christians, particularly

in South India. I remember an entire Australian family

were

massacred and they had been doing charity work for

many, many years.

This fundamentalist tva is putting the Sudras/Vaisyas

in the chair,

which is of course the norm in the West anyway.It goes

against all

the traditions of Sanathana Dharma really.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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