Amma Experience

[Guest guest]

Sweta-ji,

 

Thanks for this post and also thanks in advance for the all the posts

that you/others can write up about events at San Ramon. The last

retreat there was a guy who would translate amma's conversations and

announce it over the loudspeaker to all the retreatants; and believe

me it was hilarious and very entertaining. It will be nice if someone

can act as a translator and announcer, most of the time (doubly nice

if this can be reported here as well). I actually remember most of

the conversation that occured the last time and can repost it here if

anyone is interested.

 

 

>visualizing the relationship as healed, & everything as it should

>be. I think this is a very good suggestion.

 

This is an excellant technique; people with chronic diseases, and

financial problems will be probabilistically to a large extent be

having visual images of disease and poverty, so they are literally in

a rut by having these images reinforcing outer reality.

 

This is also a good technique to practice when doing prayers for

others(I thought you were going to ask Amma on how to pray

effectively, if so can you also ask if we can do any fancy

visualization techniques as well); my concern is that disease and

temporary problems are a learning curve for many people and by

helping them indirectly, to what extent am I hampering their

learning??

 

Thanks again and

Aum Namasivaya,

-yogaman

 

ps. Bala, please do not be inhibited in recounting conversations even

if you are in doubt:-)

[Guest guest]

Dear Yogaman,

 

> I actually remember most of the conversation that occured the last

> time and can repost it here if anyone is interested.

 

Please do. I, for one,would be most interested. I rarely get more than

a homeopathic (tiny) dose of Amma anecdotes from this group or other

sources. Always hungry for more.

 

> ps. Bala, please do not be inhibited in recounting conversations even

> if you are in doubt:-)

 

Balaji is the boss of course, but I second Yogaman's request. Would

gratefully absorb any first person accounts around Amma, especially

from intense devotees such as Balaji who have the good karma to soak

in Her presence.

 

To all other devotees:

Please share as much as you are able to. Every little bit helps.

 

Om Amriteshwaryai Namah

 

fg

[Guest guest]

>

> Please do. I, for one,would be most interested. I rarely get more

than

> a homeopathic (tiny) dose of Amma anecdotes from this group or other

> sources. Always hungry for more.

>

 

FG:

 

Your wish is my command, so here goes----

 

 

[the hall at San Ramon was packed to the brim, and as usual Amma was

multi-tasking - anwering people in the question line, joking with the

line monitors, chatting away with those who came for darshan.... a

young Malayali man was talking with Amma and announced a translation

of what Amma said in english]

 

 

There was a giant TV screen and it appeared to be a video of all the

3000(??) male brahmacharis at Amritapuri.In this video, they had

formed a long line waiting for their turn to be served lunch in a

steel plate, after getting lunch they all went to remain seated on

the floor; prior to beginning eating, they were chanting some mantras.

Consipicously everybody in the video appeared to be very grim and

serious, and possibly depressed. A lone widely smiling person shown

on the video evoked a lot of laughter from the crowd at San Ramon

ashram hall, since he definitely looked out of place from the rest of

the depressed people.

 

Amma "When I came back from the North Indian tour(??) to Amritapuri,

the next day morning I went to check the brahamcharis and I did not

see them in the meditation hall or anywhere in the ashram doing seva"

 

"I spotted all of them forming a large crowd on the beach and they

were all playing cricket with much gusto; it looked like they were

not interested in sadhana or seva and cricket on the beach seemed to

be a more enjoyable thing"

 

"I went there and called all these fellows; it also looked like they

were getting up late in the afternoon since I was not around to keep

an eye on them"

 

"I told them that this is unacceptable; you fellows cannot play

cricket and waste away time in this manner; there are lots of chores

remaining to be worked on and you should all be working on these

chores"

 

"Some asked if they can play cricket during their spare time and I

told them NO cricket; when you have spare time, go and meditate in

your room, ponder over the upanishads that you were taught in classes

here and remain in Mouna"

 

"All the brahmacharis reluctantly agreed and before I left for the US

tour I warned them not to laze around; they all agreed with great

sorrow"

 

"So in order to convince me that they were doing sadhana and seva,

they took a video presentation of how they were spending their time

and send it over to San Ramon so that I can monitor what they are

doing" [this was the video presentation mentioned with all the

depressed looking people lining up for lunch]

 

"Clearly they are not very happy in following the regimen that I told

them to follow; but someone has to do the job of educating them"

 

[the topic then kind of straddled around the behaviour of Male

sisyas, attitudes of Indian people towards Males....]

 

Amma, "In India, most housewives do not let their male children do

any housework because traditionally it is the male who has to go out

and earn a living, and his wife takes care of all the household

matters"

 

"But these days since both men and women are working, we need to have

a different approach" [Amma then went on to cite her oft-repeated

parable/guideline on husband/wife preparing coffee when the

wife/husband first comes home from work]

 

" So when Indian males come to the US, they are in a big dilemma;

since they have never done any housework, some of them dont even wash

their clothes"

 

"Even when the swamis were living in the ashram during the early

days, I used to wash all their clothes, since they never did this in

their lives"

 

Someone asked why females have to walk behind males as per tradition.

 

Someone interjected that this was because the females had to collect

all the money that fell out from the pockets of their husbands and

Amma laughed very heartily at this.

 

Amma, "this is all old tradition "[something to the effect that it

was not that relevant today]

 

 

-

 

Ok at this point, I am juggling my grey cells as to what else

happened. I will post when I can remember the rest.

 

 

AUM NAMASIVAYA

-yogaman

[Guest guest]

my concern is that disease and

> temporary problems are a learning curve for many people and by

> helping them indirectly, to what extent am I hampering their

> learning??

>

> Thanks again and

> Aum Namasivaya,

> -yogaman

>

 

Dear Yogaman,

 

I don't think you have to worry about hampering the

learning of those suffering by praying for them. My

personal experience is that if you HAVE to experience the

suffering you WILL!! On the other hand I have spoken

to Mother or written to Her about people who are

suffering, and presto! They are healed. All of these

people had no idea I was praying for them, and still

don't know. So it was their karma to get better. If it is not

a person's karma for their situation to improve,

it won't, no matter who prays how hard. Then again,

you never know when your prayer is what is needed

for a person!

 

Namah Shivaya

prasadini