Guest guest Posted September 22, 2004 Report Share Posted September 22, 2004 Namah Shivaya I have heard of one case, when the person( a westerner) had NO money to pay for his renunciate fee, and Amma asked him to join the ashram anyway and not worry about money. Also i have seen Amma call a few people to join the ashram there anyway in various capacities- they didnt pay a fee , but they work for Amma's various educational/charitable projects for free thus becoming Her ashram residents. Some time ago a friend of mine joined Amma's ashram/educational institution. He offerred to work for free- but Amma insisted that he take a salary from the institution just because he had some personal financial committments. Thus not only did he NOT pay any fee- but he is actually getting paid ! Yes if you want to go there, and NOT work for any institution like AIMS etc, and just want to stay there yes you most probably will have to pay the fee . But even then , Amma will find a way for out if you ask Her for help. Also, we should try and develop the attitude that all our money, and possessions and even our body and mind is God's/Amma's to start with. Where is the question of offering Her anything, when everything we have , including ourselves is Hers ? Finally, Amma knows best what we should be doing etc. Amma is easily the most compassionate selfless being on the planet right now, and Amma is our mother. Therefore let us just trust Her. Jai Ma bala sprose1 wrote: In a message dated 9/21/04 4:45:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Ammachi writes: > Well, 12 thousand dollars is more than I "earn" in a year. Not all > Americans are rich. I'm retired on a Disability pension. As a > renunciate, I guess Amma's ashram would provide me with a roof over my > head and daily meals. In return I'd be doing seva around the ashram. > But I find it ironic that I don't have enough money to become a > "renunciate." > > -- Len/ Kalipadma That IS funny. If you already renounced, you have nothing to renounce with. At 12000 dollars, they really make sure that you pull your own weight, and then some. A lot. Avram Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ Ammachi vote. - Register online to vote today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Dear Bala, Are you renunciate in Ashram ? Take care Jai Ma Ajith - balakrishnan Shankar Ammachi Thursday, September 23, 2004 12:26 AM renunciate fee Namah Shivaya I have heard of one case, when the person( a westerner) had NO money to pay for his renunciate fee, and Amma asked him to join the ashram anyway and not worry about money. Also i have seen Amma call a few people to join the ashram there anyway in various capacities- they didnt pay a fee , but they work for Amma's various educational/charitable projects for free thus becoming Her ashram residents. Some time ago a friend of mine joined Amma's ashram/educational institution. He offerred to work for free- but Amma insisted that he take a salary from the institution just because he had some personal financial committments. Thus not only did he NOT pay any fee- but he is actually getting paid ! Yes if you want to go there, and NOT work for any institution like AIMS etc, and just want to stay there yes you most probably will have to pay the fee . But even then , Amma will find a way for out if you ask Her for help. Also, we should try and develop the attitude that all our money, and possessions and even our body and mind is God's/Amma's to start with. Where is the question of offering Her anything, when everything we have , including ourselves is Hers ? Finally, Amma knows best what we should be doing etc. Amma is easily the most compassionate selfless being on the planet right now, and Amma is our mother. Therefore let us just trust Her. Jai Ma bala sprose1 wrote: In a message dated 9/21/04 4:45:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Ammachi writes: > Well, 12 thousand dollars is more than I "earn" in a year. Not all > Americans are rich. I'm retired on a Disability pension. As a > renunciate, I guess Amma's ashram would provide me with a roof over my > head and daily meals. In return I'd be doing seva around the ashram. > But I find it ironic that I don't have enough money to become a > "renunciate." > > -- Len/ Kalipadma That IS funny. If you already renounced, you have nothing to renounce with. At 12000 dollars, they really make sure that you pull your own weight, and then some. A lot. Avram Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Sponsor Links Ammachi/ Ammachi vote. - Register online to vote today! Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ b.. Ammachi c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 i wish! no i am not. i live in the US. bala Ajith Nair <ajithnair03 wrote: Dear Bala, Are you renunciate in Ashram ? Take care Jai Ma Ajith - balakrishnan Shankar Ammachi Thursday, September 23, 2004 12:26 AM renunciate fee Namah Shivaya I have heard of one case, when the person( a westerner) had NO money to pay for his renunciate fee, and Amma asked him to join the ashram anyway and not worry about money. Also i have seen Amma call a few people to join the ashram there anyway in various capacities- they didnt pay a fee , but they work for Amma's various educational/charitable projects for free thus becoming Her ashram residents. Some time ago a friend of mine joined Amma's ashram/educational institution. He offerred to work for free- but Amma insisted that he take a salary from the institution just because he had some personal financial committments. Thus not only did he NOT pay any fee- but he is actually getting paid ! Yes if you want to go there, and NOT work for any institution like AIMS etc, and just want to stay there yes you most probably will have to pay the fee . But even then , Amma will find a way for out if you ask Her for help. Also, we should try and develop the attitude that all our money, and possessions and even our body and mind is God's/Amma's to start with. Where is the question of offering Her anything, when everything we have , including ourselves is Hers ? Finally, Amma knows best what we should be doing etc. Amma is easily the most compassionate selfless being on the planet right now, and Amma is our mother. Therefore let us just trust Her. Jai Ma bala sprose1 wrote: In a message dated 9/21/04 4:45:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Ammachi writes: > Well, 12 thousand dollars is more than I "earn" in a year. Not all > Americans are rich. I'm retired on a Disability pension. As a > renunciate, I guess Amma's ashram would provide me with a roof over my > head and daily meals. In return I'd be doing seva around the ashram. > But I find it ironic that I don't have enough money to become a > "renunciate." > > -- Len/ Kalipadma That IS funny. If you already renounced, you have nothing to renounce with. At 12000 dollars, they really make sure that you pull your own weight, and then some. A lot. Avram Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Sponsor Links Ammachi/ Ammachi vote. - Register online to vote today! Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ b.. Ammachi c.. Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ Ammachi Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 But Bala is one of the most devoted people that you will ever meet. With love, Erica Ammachi, balakrishnan Shankar <balakrishnan_sh> wrote: > i wish! no i am not. i live in the US. > > bala > > Ajith Nair <ajithnair03> wrote: > Dear Bala, > > Are you renunciate in Ashram ? > > Take care > Jai Ma > Ajith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Dear Bala, I am really curious/wonder to know, why you did not renunciate since you explain about the same very nicely. I wish to tell to everybody that Amma is a person with good heart. But by telling fearful stories and preaching false stories, please don't let her value go down. Jai Ma Ajith - balakrishnan Shankar Ammachi Thursday, September 23, 2004 4:53 PM Re: renunciate fee i wish! no i am not. i live in the US. bala Ajith Nair <ajithnair03 wrote: Dear Bala, Are you renunciate in Ashram ? Take care Jai Ma Ajith - balakrishnan Shankar Ammachi Thursday, September 23, 2004 12:26 AM renunciate fee Namah Shivaya I have heard of one case, when the person( a westerner) had NO money to pay for his renunciate fee, and Amma asked him to join the ashram anyway and not worry about money. Also i have seen Amma call a few people to join the ashram there anyway in various capacities- they didnt pay a fee , but they work for Amma's various educational/charitable projects for free thus becoming Her ashram residents. Some time ago a friend of mine joined Amma's ashram/educational institution. He offerred to work for free- but Amma insisted that he take a salary from the institution just because he had some personal financial committments. Thus not only did he NOT pay any fee- but he is actually getting paid ! Yes if you want to go there, and NOT work for any institution like AIMS etc, and just want to stay there yes you most probably will have to pay the fee . But even then , Amma will find a way for out if you ask Her for help. Also, we should try and develop the attitude that all our money, and possessions and even our body and mind is God's/Amma's to start with. Where is the question of offering Her anything, when everything we have , including ourselves is Hers ? Finally, Amma knows best what we should be doing etc. Amma is easily the most compassionate selfless being on the planet right now, and Amma is our mother. Therefore let us just trust Her. Jai Ma bala sprose1 wrote: In a message dated 9/21/04 4:45:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Ammachi writes: > Well, 12 thousand dollars is more than I "earn" in a year. Not all > Americans are rich. I'm retired on a Disability pension. As a > renunciate, I guess Amma's ashram would provide me with a roof over my > head and daily meals. In return I'd be doing seva around the ashram. > But I find it ironic that I don't have enough money to become a > "renunciate." > > -- Len/ Kalipadma That IS funny. If you already renounced, you have nothing to renounce with. At 12000 dollars, they really make sure that you pull your own weight, and then some. A lot. Avram Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Sponsor Links Ammachi/ Ammachi vote. - Register online to vote today! Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Sponsor Links Ammachi/ b.. Ammachi c.. Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Sponsor Links Ammachi/ Ammachi Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ b.. Ammachi c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Dear Ajith Please explain -what fearful story did I tell? what false story did I preach? !!!!!!?????? bala Ajith Nair <ajithnair03 wrote: Dear Bala, I am really curious/wonder to know, why you did not renunciate since you explain about the same very nicely. I wish to tell to everybody that Amma is a person with good heart. But by telling fearful stories and preaching false stories, please don't let her value go down. Jai Ma Ajith - balakrishnan Shankar Ammachi Thursday, September 23, 2004 4:53 PM Re: renunciate fee i wish! no i am not. i live in the US. bala Ajith Nair <ajithnair03 wrote: Dear Bala, Are you renunciate in Ashram ? Take care Jai Ma Ajith - balakrishnan Shankar Ammachi Thursday, September 23, 2004 12:26 AM renunciate fee Namah Shivaya I have heard of one case, when the person( a westerner) had NO money to pay for his renunciate fee, and Amma asked him to join the ashram anyway and not worry about money. Also i have seen Amma call a few people to join the ashram there anyway in various capacities- they didnt pay a fee , but they work for Amma's various educational/charitable projects for free thus becoming Her ashram residents. Some time ago a friend of mine joined Amma's ashram/educational institution. He offerred to work for free- but Amma insisted that he take a salary from the institution just because he had some personal financial committments. Thus not only did he NOT pay any fee- but he is actually getting paid ! Yes if you want to go there, and NOT work for any institution like AIMS etc, and just want to stay there yes you most probably will have to pay the fee . But even then , Amma will find a way for out if you ask Her for help. Also, we should try and develop the attitude that all our money, and possessions and even our body and mind is God's/Amma's to start with. Where is the question of offering Her anything, when everything we have , including ourselves is Hers ? Finally, Amma knows best what we should be doing etc. Amma is easily the most compassionate selfless being on the planet right now, and Amma is our mother. Therefore let us just trust Her. Jai Ma bala sprose1 wrote: In a message dated 9/21/04 4:45:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Ammachi writes: > Well, 12 thousand dollars is more than I "earn" in a year. Not all > Americans are rich. I'm retired on a Disability pension. As a > renunciate, I guess Amma's ashram would provide me with a roof over my > head and daily meals. In return I'd be doing seva around the ashram. > But I find it ironic that I don't have enough money to become a > "renunciate." > > -- Len/ Kalipadma That IS funny. If you already renounced, you have nothing to renounce with. At 12000 dollars, they really make sure that you pull your own weight, and then some. A lot. Avram Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Sponsor Links Ammachi/ Ammachi vote. - Register online to vote today! Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Sponsor Links Ammachi/ b.. Ammachi c.. Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Sponsor Links Ammachi/ Ammachi Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ b.. Ammachi c.. Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ Ammachi Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Dear Bala, I didn't mean that you are telling fearful story. For the misunderstanding I request your excuse. But some other people are making the same. Take care Jai Ma Ajith - balakrishnan Shankar Ammachi Thursday, September 23, 2004 10:09 PM Re: renunciate fee Dear Ajith Please explain -what fearful story did I tell? what false story did I preach? !!!!!!?????? bala Ajith Nair <ajithnair03 wrote: Dear Bala, I am really curious/wonder to know, why you did not renunciate since you explain about the same very nicely. I wish to tell to everybody that Amma is a person with good heart. But by telling fearful stories and preaching false stories, please don't let her value go down. Jai Ma Ajith - balakrishnan Shankar Ammachi Thursday, September 23, 2004 4:53 PM Re: renunciate fee i wish! no i am not. i live in the US. bala Ajith Nair <ajithnair03 wrote: Dear Bala, Are you renunciate in Ashram ? Take care Jai Ma Ajith - balakrishnan Shankar Ammachi Thursday, September 23, 2004 12:26 AM renunciate fee Namah Shivaya I have heard of one case, when the person( a westerner) had NO money to pay for his renunciate fee, and Amma asked him to join the ashram anyway and not worry about money. Also i have seen Amma call a few people to join the ashram there anyway in various capacities- they didnt pay a fee , but they work for Amma's various educational/charitable projects for free thus becoming Her ashram residents. Some time ago a friend of mine joined Amma's ashram/educational institution. He offerred to work for free- but Amma insisted that he take a salary from the institution just because he had some personal financial committments. Thus not only did he NOT pay any fee- but he is actually getting paid ! Yes if you want to go there, and NOT work for any institution like AIMS etc, and just want to stay there yes you most probably will have to pay the fee .. But even then , Amma will find a way for out if you ask Her for help. Also, we should try and develop the attitude that all our money, and possessions and even our body and mind is God's/Amma's to start with. Where is the question of offering Her anything, when everything we have , including ourselves is Hers ? Finally, Amma knows best what we should be doing etc. Amma is easily the most compassionate selfless being on the planet right now, and Amma is our mother. Therefore let us just trust Her. Jai Ma bala sprose1 wrote: In a message dated 9/21/04 4:45:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Ammachi writes: > Well, 12 thousand dollars is more than I "earn" in a year. Not all > Americans are rich. I'm retired on a Disability pension. As a > renunciate, I guess Amma's ashram would provide me with a roof over my > head and daily meals. In return I'd be doing seva around the ashram. > But I find it ironic that I don't have enough money to become a > "renunciate." > > -- Len/ Kalipadma That IS funny. If you already renounced, you have nothing to renounce with. At 12000 dollars, they really make sure that you pull your own weight, and then some. A lot. Avram Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Sponsor Links Ammachi/ Ammachi vote. - Register online to vote today! Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Sponsor Links Ammachi/ b.. Ammachi c.. Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Sponsor Links Ammachi/ Ammachi Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Sponsor Links Ammachi/ b.. Ammachi c.. Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Sponsor Links Ammachi/ Ammachi Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ b.. Ammachi c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Dear OTA, You are RIGHT. International students come here for the good education and earning power that comes with that good education. However, I disagree that most of these students come from richer families. I understand that you were probably making a generalization, but others should be aware that some families save everything that they can, or even put ancestral property up as collateral, and take out loans, etc. to pay for school here in the US. I suppose I understand the reasoning behind raising rates for international students (want to keep the enrollment of such students under control), but I also feel gouged by that, as I am currently paying my husband's debt from school. We are also sending money to India to pay off the loans there. He came here for his masters and it was not free. Yes, he had an assistantship, but that did not cover 100%. And yes, he is still unemployed, almost two years later. But he came here and got something sooo much better than even a masters degree. He got me! I don't think that the renunciate fee is a lot to ask for a lifetime of room and board. But I don't understand the comparison between Indian cost of living and the cost of living here in USA. If one were to look at this cost of living as a percentage vs. the actual number, we would see that the cost of living here in US is similar to elsewhere in the world. But if you look at it as being $13,000 for one year, it'll seem like it's too much. I don't understand this way of thinking when people come here to the US from other countries. It's impossible to think of things in terms of how many Rs. something would cost. I'm sure that if the average software engineer converted his/her salary to Rs, they'd be singing a different tune all together. Sorry that my msg got so far off-topic! With love, Erica Ammachi, "one_tiny_atom" <one_tiny_atom> wrote: > Avinashji, > Namah Shivaya. > > Kevalji has already apologized for the comment and we dont have to > keep reminding him about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Namah Shivaya Ajith Sorry- I misunderstood you. I apologise for reading the mail in a haste and misunderstanding what you meant. Well.. Amma is in charge of everything .. May Her Love prevail everywhere In Amma, bala Ajith Nair <ajithnair03 wrote: Dear Bala, I didn't mean that you are telling fearful story. For the misunderstanding I request your excuse. But some other people are making the same. Take care Jai Ma Ajith - balakrishnan Shankar Ammachi Thursday, September 23, 2004 10:09 PM Re: renunciate fee Dear Ajith Please explain -what fearful story did I tell? what false story did I preach? !!!!!!?????? bala Ajith Nair <ajithnair03 wrote: Dear Bala, I am really curious/wonder to know, why you did not renunciate since you explain about the same very nicely. I wish to tell to everybody that Amma is a person with good heart. But by telling fearful stories and preaching false stories, please don't let her value go down. Jai Ma Ajith - balakrishnan Shankar Ammachi Thursday, September 23, 2004 4:53 PM Re: renunciate fee i wish! no i am not. i live in the US. bala Ajith Nair <ajithnair03 wrote: Dear Bala, Are you renunciate in Ashram ? Take care Jai Ma Ajith - balakrishnan Shankar Ammachi Thursday, September 23, 2004 12:26 AM renunciate fee Namah Shivaya I have heard of one case, when the person( a westerner) had NO money to pay for his renunciate fee, and Amma asked him to join the ashram anyway and not worry about money. Also i have seen Amma call a few people to join the ashram there anyway in various capacities- they didnt pay a fee , but they work for Amma's various educational/charitable projects for free thus becoming Her ashram residents. Some time ago a friend of mine joined Amma's ashram/educational institution. He offerred to work for free- but Amma insisted that he take a salary from the institution just because he had some personal financial committments. Thus not only did he NOT pay any fee- but he is actually getting paid ! Yes if you want to go there, and NOT work for any institution like AIMS etc, and just want to stay there yes you most probably will have to pay the fee . But even then , Amma will find a way for out if you ask Her for help. Also, we should try and develop the attitude that all our money, and possessions and even our body and mind is God's/Amma's to start with. Where is the question of offering Her anything, when everything we have , including ourselves is Hers ? Finally, Amma knows best what we should be doing etc. Amma is easily the most compassionate selfless being on the planet right now, and Amma is our mother. Therefore let us just trust Her. Jai Ma bala sprose1 wrote: In a message dated 9/21/04 4:45:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Ammachi writes: > Well, 12 thousand dollars is more than I "earn" in a year. Not all > Americans are rich. I'm retired on a Disability pension. As a > renunciate, I guess Amma's ashram would provide me with a roof over my > head and daily meals. In return I'd be doing seva around the ashram. > But I find it ironic that I don't have enough money to become a > "renunciate." > > -- Len/ Kalipadma That IS funny. If you already renounced, you have nothing to renounce with. At 12000 dollars, they really make sure that you pull your own weight, and then some. A lot. Avram Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Sponsor Links Ammachi/ Ammachi vote. - Register online to vote today! Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Sponsor Links Ammachi/ b.. Ammachi c.. Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Sponsor Links Ammachi/ Ammachi Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ b.. Ammachi c.. Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ Ammachi Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ Ammachi vote. - Register online to vote today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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