Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Namaste Everyone! I noticed not many people were writing these days? I know me, myself, and I are so busy since my girls have started school. I am about exhausted at this point. I am going though a lot right now, but I feel Amma is holding the weight of it. I have faith that she will bring me though each obstacle with great care. Where are you my dearest Supriti???? I worry!! Erica?? Brianna?? Kenna?? Barbara?? Ellen?? Anyone?? lol I miss you all so much, I wish I could live at the program with all of you. lol It felt like home. Even those of you I didn't meet I felt were there with me. Had always been. Now I just feel like we are a really big family and we all live in different places of the world! lol We like the really blissed out Brady Bunch! lol In all seriousness I am just concerned to know that everyone is alright. I know that we are all going through a very difficult time right now. But we all have to keep our chins up and KNOW that Amma is right there to catch us when we fall. Excerpt: After hearing and inner voice "Thousands and thousands of people in the world are steeped in misery. I have much for you to do. you who are one with me." It was after hearing this voice that Sudhamani manifested her inner identity with Lord Krishna to the villagers. Sudhamani continued, "I was able to know everything concerning everyone. I was fully conscious that I, myself, was Krishna, not only during that particular time of manifestation, but all the other times as well. When I saw people and knew their sufferings, I felt immense pity for them. I was conscious of devotees offering salutations to me and addressing me as "Lord". I could understand the sorrows of the devotees, even without being told." Take heart dearest brothers and sisters, out Mother will not leave her children in the dark! She knows every thought inside you. Every problem. Just pray to her. Erica how is the "connection" going? Are you singing bhajan's? If you ever feel like talking you have my number don't be afraid to call. Ellen I just wanted to say thank you for the books that you sent, once upon a time. They are coming in very handy with our new satsung. It seems that teaching myself to sing them is also coming in handy as a lot of people don't know how to pronounce them. The tapes are so worn and loved! I don't know what I would do without them. I remember at the time I was praying for some books and tapes to learn to sing bhajans, I had never asked anyone, but one day I had this package from you and opened it up and there they were! Oh Amma! Does anyone know of any great spiritual books, activities, online website, for children? I read several different books at one time, and a couple of days ago I read a passage of what Amma was doing on the morning of my birthday when I was two years old. The Holy Mother was lying in the front yard of the old temple gazing at the beautiful rising sun. Perhaps her mind soared to the heights of supreme bliss causing a semi-conscious mood. As she got up and walked into the shrine her steps were faltering like one intoxicated. Entering the temple, Mother started singling loudly calling out "Amma....Amma!" now and then. After a couple of minutes, the Mother abruptly stopped singing and, placing her head on the peetham, starting chanting OM. She became totally lost to this world and eventually she began rolling from side to side on this ground. One hour went by like this, then suddenly she got up and began dancing blissfully holding the image of Lord Krishna on her head........ I often wonder after reading that.... did she think about me that day....? What was I doing on that day? I feel like an era has come to a close for me, so sentimental. What will the next thirty years bring? I feel myself changing within. I can't explain it. Its funny because I am so emotional about it that I want to hold on to the past, but then I flipped through a booklet on Amma and she says "Getting older is not a time for brooding over the past. As with ever other changing circumstance, if we are ready to adapt to change-- as we must if we want to journey through life smoothly--getting older will certainly be a enriching experience." I keep holding on to the past. I don't want to let go, even though I know I must. I WEEP at getting older. WHY!? I don't understand why it is such a big deal to me. And it is SO silly to be making such a big deal about it. Why can't I just let go? HOW can I let go? The only thing I can think of is to grieve for the past that once was me and walk into the future with what is the new me and will be the new me. So As I walk a little unsteady into my next thirty years, I'll hold my head up and know that at least in the next thirty, I have Amma, and I wouldn't trade that for ANYTHING, not even to be young again. At Amma's Holy, Holy Lotus Feet, Prostration's to Amma Robin vote. - Register online to vote today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Hi Robin! Nice to get your "satsang" as usual. You are a breath of fresh air. I'm so glad you're enjoying the books and tapes! For myself, I haven't been in the mood to expound on the list. I'm wondering about practical things one can do before the possible world cataclysm. Forewarned is forearmed, as they say. Yogananda apparently also made some kind of dire prediction. However, unlike Amma, he suggested people have a garden and keep chickens, etc.; in other words have a sustainable lifestyle. Since I'm planning on retiring in 2005, this makes planning difficult for me. Right now I'm a "big city" gal. What would Amma say? Will the pension plan I'm in remain solvent? Will the fiat dollar survive? Should I buy a gas mask? How about a farm in Iowa? Ha, ha, I laugh at myself! There's so much to think about, in addition to all the prayers. Yes, Robin, just let those callow years of youth pass by. As the old saying goes, old age and treachery will overcome youth and inexperience every time!;-). Lots of love, Jyotsna I noticed not many people were writing these days? I know me, myself, and I are so busy since my girls have started school. I am about exhausted at this point. I am going though a lot right now, but I feel Amma is holding the weight of it. I have faith that she will bring me though each obstacle with great care. Where are you my dearest Supriti???? I worry!! Erica?? Brianna?? Kenna?? Barbara?? Ellen?? Anyone?? lol I miss you all so much, I wish I could live at the program with all of you. lol It felt like home. Even those of you I didn't meet I felt were there with me. Had always been. Now I just feel like we are a really big family and we all live in different places of the world! lol We like the really blissed out Brady Bunch! lol In all seriousness I am just concerned to know that everyone is alright. I know that we are all going through a very difficult time right now. But we all have to keep our chins up and KNOW that Amma is right there to catch us when we fall. Excerpt: After hearing and inner voice "Thousands and thousands of people in the world are steeped in misery. I have much for you to do. you who are one with me." It was after hearing this voice that Sudhamani manifested her inner identity with Lord Krishna to the villagers. Sudhamani continued, "I was able to know everything concerning everyone. I was fully conscious that I, myself, was Krishna, not only during that particular time of manifestation, but all the other times as well. When I saw people and knew their sufferings, I felt immense pity for them. I was conscious of devotees offering salutations to me and addressing me as "Lord". I could understand the sorrows of the devotees, even without being told." Take heart dearest brothers and sisters, out Mother will not leave her children in the dark! She knows every thought inside you. Every problem. Just pray to her. Erica how is the "connection" going? Are you singing bhajan's? If you ever feel like talking you have my number don't be afraid to call. Ellen I just wanted to say thank you for the books that you sent, once upon a time. They are coming in very handy with our new satsung. It seems that teaching myself to sing them is also coming in handy as a lot of people don't know how to pronounce them. The tapes are so worn and loved! I don't know what I would do without them. I remember at the time I was praying for some books and tapes to learn to sing bhajans, I had never asked anyone, but one day I had this package from you and opened it up and there they were! Oh Amma! Does anyone know of any great spiritual books, activities, online website, for children? I read several different books at one time, and a couple of days ago I read a passage of what Amma was doing on the morning of my birthday when I was two years old. The Holy Mother was lying in the front yard of the old temple gazing at the beautiful rising sun. Perhaps her mind soared to the heights of supreme bliss causing a semi-conscious mood. As she got up and walked into the shrine her steps were faltering like one intoxicated. Entering the temple, Mother started singling loudly calling out "Amma....Amma!" now and then. After a couple of minutes, the Mother abruptly stopped singing and, placing her head on the peetham, starting chanting OM. She became totally lost to this world and eventually she began rolling from side to side on this ground. One hour went by like this, then suddenly she got up and began dancing blissfully holding the image of Lord Krishna on her head........ I often wonder after reading that.... did she think about me that day....? What was I doing on that day? I feel like an era has come to a close for me, so sentimental. What will the next thirty years bring? I feel myself changing within. I can't explain it. Its funny because I am so emotional about it that I want to hold on to the past, but then I flipped through a booklet on Amma and she says "Getting older is not a time for brooding over the past. As with ever other changing circumstance, if we are ready to adapt to change-- as we must if we want to journey through life smoothly--getting older will certainly be a enriching experience." I keep holding on to the past. I don't want to let go, even though I know I must. I WEEP at getting older. WHY!? I don't understand why it is such a big deal to me. And it is SO silly to be making such a big deal about it. Why can't I just let go? HOW can I let go? The only thing I can think of is to grieve for the past that once was me and walk into the future with what is the new me and will be the new me. So As I walk a little unsteady into my next thirty years, I'll hold my head up and know that at least in the next thirty, I have Amma, and I wouldn't trade that for ANYTHING, not even to be young again. At Amma's Holy, Holy Lotus Feet, Prostration's to Amma Robin vote. - Register online to vote today! Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ Ammachi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Hi Robin (and all), I have been pulling away from Amma and all Amma-related things quite a bit lately, for a combination of reasons. First, I think that the "prediction" stuff is, quite frankly, blown way up and beyond my scope of belief. I can't listen to that stuff because I refuse to live my life in fear. Also, I've been quite put off by the "scene" around Amma. There is a lot of the clique-y stuff around that I disliked in high school. There are some truly sincere and wonderful and devoted people I have met through Amma. There are also the folks who put out the "more devoted than thou" air, which bothers me. I don't like that certain people feel more entitled to be with Amma and have her darshan and all. After the NYC programs, where I'd done line seva and experienced some of the ugliness first hand, I've been struggling with this. I'm not sure that I want to turn into a "scenester" again. I love Amma. I'm struggling to find the balance in my life and still include her. Please don't flame me. With love, Erica Ammachi, Robin Wilson <lilymoonjewel> wrote: > Namaste Everyone! > > I noticed not many people were writing these days? I know me, myself, and I are so busy since my girls have started school. I am a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Erica, I understand what you are saying about the emails. I myself have just been deleting them and not even reading them. I only read the ones about the prayers. For some reason I do have a little fear but by no means am I terrified, which surprises me because I am a big baby. As for the people who are there at the programs, you have to realize that they are NOT perfect and are not God. Yes we are all trying to integrate those qualities in us but it take a lot of time and effort. And when people are there with Amma they want to just swarm up and crowd her. They want to be close with her. I myself had read stories before finally meeting her about how people do this. I told myself "I won't be like that, if someone sits in front of me I won't mind" That was TOTALLY not the case. I wanted to be greedy around Amma, I wanted to be near her, touch her, watch her. And if someone sat in front of me, pushed me or hit me, which DID happen a lot, I was infuriated! I went against everything I had learned. She just attracts people to her and they act strangly and sometimes very mean and rude. This isn't Amma's fault, and I am sure you know most of this already. I just don't like to see anyone with what seems like hoplessness or fear. Don't think about the emails, delete them, and don't think about, people. Right now just think about you and Amma. I will pray for you Dear sister. All my love. At Amma's Lotus Feet, Robin Erica <sugarandbrine wrote:Hi Robin (and all), I have been pulling away from Amma and all Amma-related things quite a bit lately, for a combination of reasons. First, I think that the "prediction" stuff is, quite frankly, blown way up and beyond my scope of belief. I can't listen to that stuff because I refuse to live my life in fear. Also, I've been quite put off by the "scene" around Amma. There is a lot of the clique-y stuff around that I disliked in high school. There are some truly sincere and wonderful and devoted people I have met through Amma. There are also the folks who put out the "more devoted than thou" air, which bothers me. I don't like that certain people feel more entitled to be with Amma and have her darshan and all. After the NYC programs, where I'd done line seva and experienced some of the ugliness first hand, I've been struggling with this. I'm not sure that I want to turn into a "scenester" again. I love Amma. I'm struggling to find the balance in my life and still include her. Please don't flame me. With love, Erica Ammachi, Robin Wilson <lilymoonjewel> wrote: > Namaste Everyone! > > I noticed not many people were writing these days? I know me, myself, and I are so busy since my girls have started school. I am a Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ Ammachi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Hi Robin, You're very sweet. Thank you. The emails and subsequent flutter of activity are really starting to bother me. I believe that Amma is an otherworldly being, but why would she scare us so? And how does she know that our prayers will help? If she truly is God, why can't she herself stop it or remove the clouds? It's all so very weird to me. I guess I dislike blind faith without any reason. It is not necessarily the rudeness that bothered me about the programs this summer. It was the attitude behind the actions that got me. Why do some folks feel more ENTITLED to be near Amma or have her darshan? They feel that they are more special than others, I guess. I made a point during one of the Chicago programs to sit where I first got a spot and not move from there, no matter where I saw a patch of floor. I kept telling myself that the people who sat in front of me, blocking my view, needed to be near Amma much more than I did, for whatever reason. I felt calm and at peace, and then Amma "rewarded" me by coming RIGHT NEXT TO ME, as she was leaving the hall. I got to rub her hand and everything. I think my discontent also comes from a bruised ego, but that's another topic all together. Also, why on earth is it all so painful? Being with Amma brings up SO much pain in different forms. I have enough of that already; I don't need to add to it. I think I am trying to find a balance and figure out what role Amma and The ShaktiHeads will play in my life. With lots of lovelovelove, Erica Ammachi, Robin Wilson <lilymoonjewel> wrote: > > Erica, > > > > I understand what you are saying about the emails. I myself have just been deleting them and not even reading them. I only read the ones about the prayers. For some reason I do have a little fear but by no means am I terrified, which surprises me because I am a big Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Dear Erica, experienced some of the ugliness first hand, I've been struggling with this. Yikes, there are egoes with selfish desires everywhere! We are still works in progress, and who knows (Ok, Amma does:) how many lifetimes we'll need to return in this process of dropping off these pesky little egoes. Still, it's hard to swallow sometimes (especially when I look in the mirror) watching devotees act and react from the past in ways that are so opposed to the high ideals Amma is teaching us. We are just so fortunate to have a living Master who can straighten us out along the way. I sometimes think that the ugly stuff that goes on around Amma is a microcosim of the rest of the world. As a Swami mentioned, When Amma visits we can use the annoying behavior that happens in the darshan hall, to measure how we're growing spiritually. I think you've got the most important part right by loving Amma. I agree with Robin, to focus on Amma. Amma says something like how people will always let us down, and God is the only one we can truly rely upon. Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ Ammachi Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Ammachi, "Erica" <sugarandbrine> wrote: > Hi Robin, > > You're very sweet. Thank you. > > The emails and subsequent flutter of activity are really starting to > bother me. I believe that Amma is an otherworldly being, but why > would she scare us so? And how does she know that our prayers will > help? If she truly is God, why can't she herself stop it or remove > the clouds? It's all so very weird to me. I guess I dislike blind > faith without any reason. > Amma hasn't asked us to get scared; She has only asked us to pray for world peace. I personally believe that Amma can remove any obstacle... but maybe we need to put forth our effort in the form of prayers for world peace. Amma often narrates the story of a man who prayed to God asking God to help him win a lottery prize. Finally God responded asking the man to atleast buy a lottery ticket so that God could help him win the prize money. Just my view ... Namah Shivaya, Nirmala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Namah Shivaya, "Amma has agreed to observe the International Day of Peace declared by the UN. Anyone, working anywhere, irrespective of their faith or religion can participate in this simple prayer to promote World Peace. This is only a one minute prayer for Peace. The time fixed for this is 12 noon, on 21st September. At that time, stop whatever you are doing and pray silently for World Peace and harmony. Please encourage as many people to partake in this prayer." 1. The United Nations approached Amma to observe this day. Amma has agreed and is encouraging Her Children to participate. Simple. Why complicate things? 2. The law of karma is very intricate and involved. Each living being or even a country has to go through the cycle of karma. Tampering with "large-scale" karma would cause an imbalance in the functioning of the world. It is God alone who can modify karma, but first we must show that we deserve the grace and that we yearn for it. [it is said that in Hindu temples, one slowly 'touches' one's forehead on the ground in front of the deity, asking for forgiveness and to change the course of bad karma or fate that is in the forehead] Perhaps if enough people pray at a particular time and 'critical mass' is reached, God might just decide that the beings on the earth do not deserve to suffer (because of these events) and would blow the 'clouds' away. The 'physical' Amma is forever connected to that supreme consciousness and has been gracious enough to tell us what to do. Why dont we all just give one minute out of our busy schedules? Has Amma ever asked all Her children for anything like this? Amme Sharanam, ota > Ammachi, "Erica" <sugarandbrine> wrote: > > Hi Robin, > > > > You're very sweet. Thank you. > > > > The emails and subsequent flutter of activity are really starting > to > > bother me. I believe that Amma is an otherworldly being, but why > > would she scare us so? And how does she know that our prayers will > > help? If she truly is God, why can't she herself stop it or remove > > the clouds? It's all so very weird to me. I guess I dislike blind > > faith without any reason. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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