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Namah Shivaya,

After reading a few of the recent posts, I have been struck by how

critical we can be of our selves, how negative we can be in our

comments about ourselves, and how this might be Self defeating. Could

it be (for us westerners) the result of being raised in a Judeo-

Christian society? Could it be that now that our Beloved Amma has

found us we can shift to another way of investigating our behavior,

motives, vasanas, that does not require judgement, just observation?

Could it be that we are not the sinners that our culture has told us

that we are?

 

Amma says:

"Mother has already sought God's forgiveness for your faults. There

is nothing in particular that you need to do. It is enough if you

meditate well." Awaken Children Part 1

 

"When he goes on thinking and saying that he is a sinner or is weak,

he will become unable to undertake any kind of useful work. Ups and

downs are the nature of life and are unavoidable. An individual who

thinks that he is weak or is a sinner will collapse before them. A

sinner is one who does not have the mental strength to confront the

problems of life. No doubt he will become weaker and weaker if he

continues thinking 'I am weak, I am a sinner. I cannot do anything, I

cannot accomplish anything in life.' Whereas, he will gain more

mental strenght to face the challenges of life if he thinks, 'I am

not a sinner, nor am I ignorant or weak. I am strong, I am the

Supreme Self or I am protected by God, I am His child.'" Awaken

Children Part 2

 

Paramahansa Yogananda said,

"When you analyze what you are, have a firm desire to banish your

weaknesses and to make yourself what you ought to be. Don't allow

yourself to be overwhelmed with discouragement at the revelation of

your shortcomings that honest self analysis usually brings." Man's

Eternal Quest

 

In BE As You Are, The Teachings of Sri Raman Maharshi it says,

"Instead of attributing suffering to the consequence of wrong actions

or to the will of God, Sri Ramana taught that it only arises because

we imagine that we are separate individuals interacting with each

other and with the world. He said that wrong actions compound the

suffering, and are therefore to be avoided, but they are not its

orignial cause. It is the mind that creates the illusion of

separateness and it is the mind that suffers the consequences of its

illusory inventions. Suffering is thus a product and consequence of

the discriminative mind; when the mind is eliminated, suffering is

found to be non-existent."

 

Sri Vivekananda said,

"Teach men of the strength that is already within them. Instead of

telling them that they are sinners, Vedanta takes the opposite

position and says, 'You are pure and perfect, and what you call sin

does not belong to you.'" The Yogas and Other Works

 

Sri Ramakrishna said,

"The wretch who constantly says, 'I am bound, I am bound' only

succeeds in being bound. He who says day and night, 'I am a sinner, I

am a sinner' verily becomes a sinner.

 

"One sould have such burning faith in God that one can say; 'What? I

have repeated the name of God, and can sin still cling to me? How can

I be a sinner any more? How can I be in bondage any more?'"

The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna

 

My goal for myself is to heed the words of all of my teachers and my

Guru. I will try to observe my mind, and my behavior to gain

awareness, to grow and to finally realize my true Self.

 

Jai Ma!

Omana

P.S. (Re. song Amma's girl)I also think that humor has a place in

this journey, and helps to lighten the load.

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Wednesday, April 28, 2004 2:49 PM

We are not sinners

Namah Shivaya,

 

Omana, what a lovely reminder your post was. Thank you.

 

Namaste,

Snehalata

 

 

Namah Shivaya,

After reading a few of the recent posts, I have been struck by how

critical we can be of our selves, how negative we can be in our

comments about ourselves, and how this might be Self defeating. Could

it be (for us westerners) the result of being raised in a Judeo-

Christian society? Could it be that now that our Beloved Amma has

found us we can shift to another way of investigating our behavior,

motives, vasanas, that does not require judgement, just observation?

Could it be that we are not the sinners that our culture has told us

that we are?

 

Amma says:

"Mother has already sought God's forgiveness for your faults. There

is nothing in particular that you need to do. It is enough if you

meditate well." Awaken Children Part 1

 

"When he goes on thinking and saying that he is a sinner or is weak,

he will become unable to undertake any kind of useful work. Ups and

downs are the nature of life and are unavoidable. An individual who

thinks that he is weak or is a sinner will collapse before them. A

sinner is one who does not have the mental strength to confront the

problems of life. No doubt he will become weaker and weaker if he

continues thinking 'I am weak, I am a sinner. I cannot do anything, I

cannot accomplish anything in life.' Whereas, he will gain more

mental strenght to face the challenges of life if he thinks, 'I am

not a sinner, nor am I ignorant or weak. I am strong, I am the

Supreme Self or I am protected by God, I am His child.'" Awaken

Children Part 2

 

Paramahansa Yogananda said,

"When you analyze what you are, have a firm desire to banish your

weaknesses and to make yourself what you ought to be. Don't allow

yourself to be overwhelmed with discouragement at the revelation of

your shortcomings that honest self analysis usually brings." Man's

Eternal Quest

 

In BE As You Are, The Teachings of Sri Raman Maharshi it says,

"Instead of attributing suffering to the consequence of wrong actions

or to the will of God, Sri Ramana taught that it only arises because

we imagine that we are separate individuals interacting with each

other and with the world. He said that wrong actions compound the

suffering, and are therefore to be avoided, but they are not its

orignial cause. It is the mind that creates the illusion of

separateness and it is the mind that suffers the consequences of its

illusory inventions. Suffering is thus a product and consequence of

the discriminative mind; when the mind is eliminated, suffering is

found to be non-existent."

 

Sri Vivekananda said,

"Teach men of the strength that is already within them. Instead of

telling them that they are sinners, Vedanta takes the opposite

position and says, 'You are pure and perfect, and what you call sin

does not belong to you.'" The Yogas and Other Works

 

Sri Ramakrishna said,

"The wretch who constantly says, 'I am bound, I am bound' only

succeeds in being bound. He who says day and night, 'I am a sinner, I

am a sinner' verily becomes a sinner.

 

"One sould have such burning faith in God that one can say; 'What? I

have repeated the name of God, and can sin still cling to me? How can

I be a sinner any more? How can I be in bondage any more?'"

The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna

 

My goal for myself is to heed the words of all of my teachers and my

Guru. I will try to observe my mind, and my behavior to gain

awareness, to grow and to finally realize my true Self.

 

Jai Ma!

Omana

P.S. (Re. song Amma's girl)I also think that humor has a place in

this journey, and helps to lighten the load.

 

 

 

 

Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

 

 

 

 

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Namaste Omana,

 

A humble thank you for opening my eyes.

 

At Amma's Feet,

Robin

 

 

 

Omana <eveningstar8 wrote:

Namah Shivaya,

After reading a few of the recent posts, I have been struck by how

critical we can be of our selves, how negative we can be in our

comments about ourselves, and how this might be Self defeating. Could

it be (for us westerners) the result of being raised in a Judeo-

Christian society? Could it be that now that our Beloved Amma has

found us we can shift to another way of investigating our behavior,

motives, vasanas, that does not require judgement, just observation?

Could it be that we are not the sinners that our culture has told us

that we are?

 

Amma says:

"Mother has already sought God's forgiveness for your faults. There

is nothing in particular that you need to do. It is enough if you

meditate well." Awaken Children Part 1

 

"When he goes on thinking and saying that he is a sinner or is weak,

he will become unable to undertake any kind of useful work. Ups and

downs are the nature of life and are unavoidable. An individual who

thinks that he is weak or is a sinner will collapse before them. A

sinner is one who does not have the mental strength to confront the

problems of life. No doubt he will become weaker and weaker if he

continues thinking 'I am weak, I am a sinner. I cannot do anything, I

cannot accomplish anything in life.' Whereas, he will gain more

mental strenght to face the challenges of life if he thinks, 'I am

not a sinner, nor am I ignorant or weak. I am strong, I am the

Supreme Self or I am protected by God, I am His child.'" Awaken

Children Part 2

 

Paramahansa Yogananda said,

"When you analyze what you are, have a firm desire to banish your

weaknesses and to make yourself what you ought to be. Don't allow

yourself to be overwhelmed with discouragement at the revelation of

your shortcomings that honest self analysis usually brings." Man's

Eternal Quest

 

In BE As You Are, The Teachings of Sri Raman Maharshi it says,

"Instead of attributing suffering to the consequence of wrong actions

or to the will of God, Sri Ramana taught that it only arises because

we imagine that we are separate individuals interacting with each

other and with the world. He said that wrong actions compound the

suffering, and are therefore to be avoided, but they are not its

orignial cause. It is the mind that creates the illusion of

separateness and it is the mind that suffers the consequences of its

illusory inventions. Suffering is thus a product and consequence of

the discriminative mind; when the mind is eliminated, suffering is

found to be non-existent."

 

Sri Vivekananda said,

"Teach men of the strength that is already within them. Instead of

telling them that they are sinners, Vedanta takes the opposite

position and says, 'You are pure and perfect, and what you call sin

does not belong to you.'" The Yogas and Other Works

 

Sri Ramakrishna said,

"The wretch who constantly says, 'I am bound, I am bound' only

succeeds in being bound. He who says day and night, 'I am a sinner, I

am a sinner' verily becomes a sinner.

 

"One sould have such burning faith in God that one can say; 'What? I

have repeated the name of God, and can sin still cling to me? How can

I be a sinner any more? How can I be in bondage any more?'"

The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna

 

My goal for myself is to heed the words of all of my teachers and my

Guru. I will try to observe my mind, and my behavior to gain

awareness, to grow and to finally realize my true Self.

 

Jai Ma!

Omana

P.S. (Re. song Amma's girl)I also think that humor has a place in

this journey, and helps to lighten the load.

 

 

 

 

Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

 

 

 

Ammachi/

 

Ammachi

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thankyou for this. I felt such self forgiveness reading it. I've felt

very anguished since the last 2 retreats with Amma here in Australia.

I reacted against what I heard as the judgemental tone of a lot of

the talks, including Amma's. I realise now I was hearing them through

the ears of my own religious conditioning. I need to hear Amma's

comments about selfishness, ego, etc IN THE CONTEXT OF HER LOVE FOR

US. Yes, we have our faults and need to see them, observe them etc -

but we are fundamentally loved, in our Mother's Universal Arms.

God Bless

Shane

 

 

 

Ammachi, Robin Wilson <lilymoonjewel>

wrote:

> Namaste Omana,

>

> A humble thank you for opening my eyes.

>

> At Amma's Feet,

> Robin

>

>

>

> Omana <eveningstar8@h...> wrote:

> Namah Shivaya,

> After reading a few of the recent posts, I have been struck by how

> critical we can be of our selves, how negative we can be in our

> comments about ourselves, and how this might be Self defeating.

Could

> it be (for us westerners) the result of being raised in a Judeo-

> Christian society? Could it be that now that our Beloved Amma has

> found us we can shift to another way of investigating our behavior,

> motives, vasanas, that does not require judgement, just

observation?

> Could it be that we are not the sinners that our culture has told

us

> that we are?

>

> Amma says:

> "Mother has already sought God's forgiveness for your faults. There

> is nothing in particular that you need to do. It is enough if you

> meditate well." Awaken Children Part 1

>

> "When he goes on thinking and saying that he is a sinner or is

weak,

> he will become unable to undertake any kind of useful work. Ups and

> downs are the nature of life and are unavoidable. An individual who

> thinks that he is weak or is a sinner will collapse before them. A

> sinner is one who does not have the mental strength to confront the

> problems of life. No doubt he will become weaker and weaker if he

> continues thinking 'I am weak, I am a sinner. I cannot do anything,

I

> cannot accomplish anything in life.' Whereas, he will gain more

> mental strenght to face the challenges of life if he thinks, 'I am

> not a sinner, nor am I ignorant or weak. I am strong, I am the

> Supreme Self or I am protected by God, I am His child.'" Awaken

> Children Part 2

>

> Paramahansa Yogananda said,

> "When you analyze what you are, have a firm desire to banish your

> weaknesses and to make yourself what you ought to be. Don't allow

> yourself to be overwhelmed with discouragement at the revelation of

> your shortcomings that honest self analysis usually brings." Man's

> Eternal Quest

>

> In BE As You Are, The Teachings of Sri Raman Maharshi it says,

> "Instead of attributing suffering to the consequence of wrong

actions

> or to the will of God, Sri Ramana taught that it only arises

because

> we imagine that we are separate individuals interacting with each

> other and with the world. He said that wrong actions compound the

> suffering, and are therefore to be avoided, but they are not its

> orignial cause. It is the mind that creates the illusion of

> separateness and it is the mind that suffers the consequences of

its

> illusory inventions. Suffering is thus a product and consequence of

> the discriminative mind; when the mind is eliminated, suffering is

> found to be non-existent."

>

> Sri Vivekananda said,

> "Teach men of the strength that is already within them. Instead of

> telling them that they are sinners, Vedanta takes the opposite

> position and says, 'You are pure and perfect, and what you call sin

> does not belong to you.'" The Yogas and Other Works

>

> Sri Ramakrishna said,

> "The wretch who constantly says, 'I am bound, I am bound' only

> succeeds in being bound. He who says day and night, 'I am a sinner,

I

> am a sinner' verily becomes a sinner.

>

> "One sould have such burning faith in God that one can say; 'What?

I

> have repeated the name of God, and can sin still cling to me? How

can

> I be a sinner any more? How can I be in bondage any more?'"

> The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna

>

> My goal for myself is to heed the words of all of my teachers and

my

> Guru. I will try to observe my mind, and my behavior to gain

> awareness, to grow and to finally realize my true Self.

>

> Jai Ma!

> Omana

> P.S. (Re. song Amma's girl)I also think that humor has a place in

> this journey, and helps to lighten the load.

>

>

>

>

> Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

>

>

>

>

> Links

>

>

> Ammachi/

>

>

> Ammachi

>

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Service.

>

>

>

>

>

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