Guest guest Posted April 6, 2004 Report Share Posted April 6, 2004 ALoha AMma's Own Children, I have heard a story or two of people who had their own mantras that they were so connected with already but then when they met Amma they wanted to have their mantra form her so they asked for a mantra nd what did she give them, none other thatn their very own previous mantra which they had never told her. One was in Hebrew- that was the Hebrew mantra story I heard. Of course this enriched their faith beyond measure. I have my own mantra story to share which comes through the filter of me with little faith. I grew up Hare Krishna where it was believed that Krishna was the be-all , end- all supreme personality of Godhead and that to worship just the essence energy of God in any form other than Krishna was not going to get you to the ultimate goal or to devote yourself to God without form was certainly lesser and they call it IMPERSONALISM - it was such a nasty word, Well, the whole fundamental Hare Krishna upbringing left a very bad taste in my mouth for religion and even for God for many years after I left at age 12. Deep down, I always would think, WHy wouldnt God be more universla and more understanding? How could God be more narrow-minded than the psychotherapist I go to for counseling who weems to understand and appreciate my good intentions in all of my actions becuase she can see the whole picture of me based on my history and such.. How can God judge so black and white and let all those other people who try to do good in Gods name be wrong just becase they have a different cultural experience, form and name for God. For a while I saw nature as god and then after some time I realized there was one common truth and essence in all religions which was love and that god was PURE LOVE. After much deep incessant longing to see PURE LOVE In the world and knowing I was incapable of generating it mysefl having never experienced, I cried nmight and day for a teacher. One day three years ago, very synchronistically I found myself in Ammas's lap in LA. She was in DEvi Bhava. The darshan was the most powerful healing that I had been crying for and I soon found myself in Her mantra line. "What notion of God do you believe in that you want to focus on?"" was the question-kind. PURE LOVE, of course, I responded, so excited I was going to finally come closer to my true goal. When I heard the mantra I couldnt understand it which surprised this daughter who grew up on Sanskrit for breakfast lunch and dinner. I asked AMma, WHAT? she said it again. I still couldnt make out the words except om and namah. Again, I said, "WHAT?" Amma laughed and said it again- someone took me aside to read it to me- I had never learned those words. I started saying my mantra regularly. As I became closer and closer to AMMA, and even went to India with her for months, my dormant devotion for GOD awakened more and more and in the center of it was my deep childhood love for Krishna. Amma gave me many experiences of Radha and Krishna in India and my love grew more up until the point where I remembered a teaching that whatever I focus on at death is where I will end up and I panicked. Do i really want to end up in the white light of Brahman or do i want to end up serving God in a form? I also believed what the Hare Krishnas taught- that if you merge with the light you eventually end up falling down , back into illusion. So, i decided to ask Amma for a new mantra. We were in India- Devi Bhava. I asked the Indian brahmacarini- (woman monastic) to ask Amma for a new mantra. She asked me what my mantra was and I reluctantly told her. Amma said, when I went up... "What you want a new mantra?" " Yes Amma, I said. "No New Mantras!"" ""Please Amma, I said. Amma asked the attendant what my mantra was and she told her out loud in front of all present. Amma repeated it so loud it seemed to shake the whole hall- it definitely shook the core of my being. I asked Her Please Mother, I want a Radha Krishna mantra. "NO NEW MANTRAS"" She emphasized. I sat crying hysterically thinking I was doomed to reach a lesser goal and that I had chosen a lesser guru. I was so devastated. After some time, that morning I met one of AMmas swamis who told me that the mantras he gave me was the essence pure love - that of the goddess-which is why I hadnt recognized the sanskrit words. He told me that there was no way that I could reach any form like Radha and Krishna without the essence of Pure Love. That Radha nd Krishna would be asecondayr mantra and that what I got was a bija mantra and was a primary mantra. My Amma, SHe Knows Everything and Loves ME so Much - Thank you AMMA LOVE AMBUJAM Ammachi wrote: There are 9 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Re: Letter to Mother George4Mata 2. Welcome Back, Gabriela George4Mata 3. Re: Re: Asking for a new mantra Girish 4. Re: Khadgamala stotram "one_tiny_atom" 5. AMMA SAYS - APHORISM "chembalacnair" 6. IMMORTAL LIGHT - SPIRITUAL LIFE "chembalacnair" 7. MEDITATE WHILE YOU WORK (3) Girish 8. Re: Asking for a new mantra "ammasiswari" 9. Re: Asking for a new mantra "Erica" ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Mon, 5 Apr 2004 10:34:49 -0700 (PDT) George4Mata Re: Re: Letter to Mother Om Amriteswarye Namah: Not this Son ot Divinity. Namah Shivaya, George lvsng04 wrote: Question: Just wondering...does this George Mata happen to be the George Mata who once lived in Texas? Amma hugs, lvsng Ammachi, George4Mata wrote: > Dear Amma: > > I would like to work for you. You do not have to pay me anything. You can pay me in hugs. > > Love, > > George > > > > > Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ Ammachi Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:16:43 -0700 (PDT) George4Mata Welcome Back, Gabriela "There was a time I was looking for Him and I was finding my .self.. Now I look for myself and I find Him." —Abdullah Ansari of Herat, Sufi Mystic Hare Om, George Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today ______________________ ______________________ Message: 3 Mon, 5 Apr 2004 18:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Girish Re: Re: Asking for a new mantra On a related theme, has anyone asked Amma to give a Mantra that they have received from somebody else ? -Girish On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 kalipadma wrote: > > I asked for a new mantra several years ago (my chosen deity changed, or > more accurately, I wanted to strengthen my relationship with a second > deity). I was told that Amma gives only one mantra to each devotee, and > it has to last for life. No exceptions. > > Admittedly, one of the brahmacharyins advised me that all "deities" are > forms of Brahman, and when addressing one, we are addressing them all. > > -- Len/ Kalipadma > > > On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 20:51:19 -0800 (PST) charjohn > writes: > > > > I have worked with the people getting mantras, and forsomething as > > serious as taking a new mantra, I'd advise getting in the question > > line beforehand to ask. If you ask during Devi Bhava and get waved > > over to the mantra talk people, they most likely will then have to > > go to Amma and ask Her. Another possibility is to talk to one of > > the swamis ahead of time. Then do as they say. > > > > In Amma, > > > > CJ > > > > > > > > Ammachi, "Dixie Thacker" > > wrote: > > > > > > While we're talking about mantras, I need to pose a question. > > When Swami asked > > me whom I worshipped last year prior to my mantra being assigned, I > > told him > > "Christ" and Amma directed my mantra that way. I would like to have > > Amma change > > that but am not sure how to go about asking Her to do so. > > > > > > I currently chant the mantra Mother gave me, but also chant one > > to Her; I woul, > > tho, prefer that She make a formal change for me and bless the new > > one as She did > > the last. Any suggestions? > > > > > > At Mother's feet more firmly than ever, > > > Dixie > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > Ammachi/ > > > > > > Ammachi > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________ > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > Links > > > > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message: 4 Tue, 06 Apr 2004 01:56:38 -0000 "one_tiny_atom" Re: Khadgamala stotram Omanaji, Thank you for your reassuring words. Means a lot. Snehalataji, Never meant the 'wrong vibrations' to you personally. Though I do find your fascination with string theory to be fascinating It is said that the rishis (sages) 'visualized' mantras which were then converted into audible sounds. [if this atom's memory is good, Deepak Chopra once showed that, the word 'Om' when resonated correctly over a bowl of water, brought about an image of the Sri Chakra to its surface.] Dabbling with unknown strotras (which may contain mantras) without my protectress with me, is not something this atom can handle. Amma has answered through all of you. Thank you! Holding on to Amma's lotus feet, ota ______________________ ______________________ Message: 5 Tue, 06 Apr 2004 02:06:30 -0000 "chembalacnair" AMMA SAYS - APHORISM OM AMRITESWARYAI NAMAH AMMA SAYS: "If we are swayed by external pleasures, we won't be able to find the inner Truth." :: Amma Sharanam May all the beings in all the worlds be peaceful and happy. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 6 Tue, 06 Apr 2004 02:15:01 -0000 "chembalacnair" IMMORTAL LIGHT - SPIRITUAL LIFE OM AMRITESWARYAI NAMAH IMMORTAL LIGHT - Spiritual Life The value of humility A seed has to get buried in the soil for its real form as a plant to emerge. Only through modesty and humility can we grow. Pride and conceit will only destroy us. Live with the firm attitude, "I am every one's servant." Then the whole universe will bow down to us. :: >From the book of Immortal Light - Advice to Householders (english translation of the original Malayalam "Amrita Jyoti") Amma Sharanam ______________________ ______________________ Message: 7 Mon, 5 Apr 2004 18:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Girish MEDITATE WHILE YOU WORK (3) MEDITATE WHILE YOU WORK : A NEW PATH FOR A NEW AGE (3) Swami Ashokananda (continued) Year will follow year and we will find that we have not come any closer to God. I have seen such people. I have admiration for them. Even to be able to sit quietly without paying attention to any external things is a nice practice. But we want to attain _some_ success in our spiritual endeavour; so we should not be satisfied with the external achievment of sitting quietly for hours. I sometimes am inclined to think that such a habit might even become harmful, an obstruction to spiritual growth. It is not meditation. As I said, without concentration meditation is not possible. (to be continued) ______________________ ______________________ Message: 8 Tue, 06 Apr 2004 06:48:33 -0000 "ammasiswari" Re: Asking for a new mantra I remember the story of a man who asked Amma to initiate him with a Hebrew mantra he'd been using for some time -- and she did! Iswari Ammachi, Girish wrote: > On a related theme, has anyone asked Amma to give a Mantra that they > have received from somebody else ? > > -Girish ______________________ ______________________ Message: 9 Tue, 06 Apr 2004 15:46:02 -0000 "Erica" Re: Asking for a new mantra I remember hearing that story as well. I also know that there was a girl in the mantra line ahead of me when I was getting my mantra who asked Amma to bless a mantra she'd been previously given. Amma did so, but the people around Her were confused at first. With love, Niseema Ammachi, "ammasiswari" wrote: > I remember the story of a man who asked Amma to initiate him with a > Hebrew mantra he'd been using for some time -- and she did! > > Iswari > > Ammachi, Girish wrote: > > On a related theme, has anyone asked Amma to give a Mantra that > they > > have received from somebody else ? > > > > -Girish ______________________ ______________________ Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! ------ ------ Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Ambujam - Thank you for sharing your story with the group! I too have had some resistance to chanting my Amma mantra because I am deeply devoted to Krishna and am not advanced enough to see all forms and mantras as different aspects of the same one Divine Being. As it turns out, however, one of the bijas in the mantra Amma gave me (I asked for an Amma mantra) is a Krishna bija, and the other is that of the Goddess...which totally fits my attraction to both Krishna and Amma:) (I actually found a Vaisnava website praising the glories of one of the bijas contained in the mantra Amma gave me!) I still chant both the maha-mantra and my Amma mantra, but I am going to ask Amma about this during the summer tour along with questions concerning my continued involvement in ISKCON. With love at Amma's lotus feet, Niscala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Namah Shivayah, I actually had a similar experience as well. I was unsure if I should ask for an "Amma" mantra, a Lakshmi mantra, or a "Divine Mother" mantra. (Sri Lakshmi was actually my first connection to Eastern religion/philosophy, through the form of a vision, but that's another story.) As it turns out, Amma gave me a mantra that has a Lakshmi bija syllable, as well as some more general shakti-based bijas! Jai Ma! With love, Clinging to Mother's beautiful lotus feet (now more than ever), Niseema Ammachi, "Kirsten" <anandam33> wrote: > Ambujam - Thank you for sharing your story with the group! I too have > had some resistance to chanting my Amma mantra because I am deeply > devoted to Krishna and am not advanced enough to see all forms and > mantras as different aspects of the same one Divine Being. As it > turns out, however, one of the bijas in the mantra Amma gave me (I > asked for an Amma mantra) is a Krishna bija, and the other is that of > the Goddess...which totally fits my attraction to both Krishna and > Amma:) (I actually found a Vaisnava website praising the glories of > one of the bijas contained in the mantra Amma gave me!) > I still chant both the maha-mantra and my Amma mantra, but I am going > to ask Amma about this during the summer tour along with questions > concerning my continued involvement in ISKCON. > > With love at Amma's lotus feet, > > Niscala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Wow, how strange that I never thought to look into the differant potential meanings of my mantra. I just looked up each of the syllables, and found a whole new dimension to my mantra! pranams, Brianna P.S. Today is really depressing for me. Not sure why. --- Erica <sugarandbrine wrote: > Namah Shivayah, > > I actually had a similar experience as well. I was > unsure if I should > ask for an "Amma" mantra, a Lakshmi mantra, or a > "Divine Mother" > mantra. (Sri Lakshmi was actually my first > connection to Eastern > religion/philosophy, through the form of a vision, > but that's another > story.) As it turns out, Amma gave me a mantra that > has a Lakshmi > bija syllable, as well as some more general > shakti-based bijas! > > Jai Ma! > > With love, > Clinging to Mother's beautiful lotus feet (now more > than ever), > Niseema > > Ammachi, "Kirsten" > <anandam33> wrote: > > Ambujam - Thank you for sharing your story with > the group! I too > have > > had some resistance to chanting my Amma mantra > because I am deeply > > devoted to Krishna and am not advanced enough to > see all forms and > > mantras as different aspects of the same one > Divine Being. As it > > turns out, however, one of the bijas in the mantra > Amma gave me (I > > asked for an Amma mantra) is a Krishna bija, and > the other is that > of > > the Goddess...which totally fits my attraction to > both Krishna and > > Amma:) (I actually found a Vaisnava website > praising the glories > of > > one of the bijas contained in the mantra Amma gave > me!) > > I still chant both the maha-mantra and my Amma > mantra, but I am > going > > to ask Amma about this during the summer tour > along with questions > > concerning my continued involvement in ISKCON. > > > > With love at Amma's lotus feet, > > > > Niscala > > Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions./design_giveaway/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 Hi Brianna, Me, too! In fact the new info raises a lot of questions for me. It was really fun to do though. Jai Ma, Jyotsna --- Brianna Mosteller <rubyrapunzel wrote: > Wow, how strange that I never thought to look into > the > differant potential meanings of my mantra. I just > looked up each of the syllables, and found a whole > new > dimension to my mantra! > > > > Jai Ma! > > > > > > > > > Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway > http://promotions./design_giveaway/ > Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes./filing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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