Guest guest Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 I was reading an article yesterday about some Hindu group in India that will be on the lookout tomorrow for anyone celebrating Valentine's day because it is a "christian" holiday and an affront to Hinduism and Indian culture to show any affection in public. What a sad story. I hope no one gets hurt there. I woke up this morning and was thinking about how great it is that we actually have a day dedicated to the celebration of loving each other, and then, I realized that I love myself, unconditionally, finally. I looked the mirror this morning and wished myself love, and it feels real and so good. I have never done this before. I have a friend who is 86 years old and feeling not very good most of the time and wishing I could show her how much I love her and then I realized I love myself that way too. And then I was crying because my biggest valentine - AMMA - isn't here for me to wish her a happy Valentine's Day, so I am longing for her to hear me and feel the love I am sending her way with all my heart today and tomorrow. I am going to be longing for Her so much tomorrow as my favorite Valentine. Anyway to all of you out there, a big hug and kiss - and my wish that we all show someone we love that we love them tomorrow - on a day set aside for the celebration of love. What a huge blessing! Om Namashivaya - In Amma's service, Supriti Omenka Nnadi Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 > > I was reading an article yesterday about some Hindu > group in India that will be on the lookout tomorrow > for anyone celebrating Valentine's day because it is > a "christian" holiday and an affront to Hinduism and > Indian culture to show any affection in public. > What a sad story. I hope no one gets hurt there. Of course we all hope no one is hurt, but I have to say that I am sympathetic to the Hindus here. Even Amma said last year that Indians should not mimic western traditions such as Valentine's Day. I have heard it said that in India it is okay for a man to beat his wife in public, but not to hold her hand in public. (Sorry, no offense intended!) Of course that seems perverse, but I am absolutely sickened by the way western culture has become so degenerate that all I see this week on tv are appalling "Victoria Secrets" ads for Valentine's day. The way I see it these individuals in India want to keep their culture from going down that same path. Good luck to them in that ideal, if not in their vigilantism. I guess Buddha had it right when he advocated the middle path. I have enjoyed your reports on your IAM benefits! May Amma's love shine in all our hearts every day, Jyotsna > > > > Finance: Get your refund fast by filing > online > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes./filing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 > > > > > I was reading an article yesterday about some > Hindu > > group in India that will be on the lookout > tomorrow > > for anyone celebrating Valentine's day because it > is > > a "christian" holiday and an affront to Hinduism > and > > Indian culture to show any affection in public. This must be the Shiv Sena and/or RSS up to their usual tricks. In past years they made a show of trashing some Valentines day card and flower displays at various book stores and gift shops in Bombay. Valentines day isn't any big deal in Amma's home state, according to this item from newindpress.com In Kerala, love is not in the air Saturday February 14 2004 00:00 IST THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: Here's a state with a difference. While the rest of India appears to be caught up in the frenzy of Valentine's Day, Kerala is unmoved, with hotels not planning any special dos and florists not stocking up on red roses. Cupid has clearly not had much of an impact in this southern state that boasts the highest level of literacy in India, a low infant mortality rate and one of the states with high per capita consumption of liquor. It is pretty inexplicable, particularly as the marketing hype around the event and everything, from music videos to television soaps, reminding the young that Valentine's Day on Saturday is a day of celebration not to be missed. And most Keralites can't understand it themselves. Tito K. Cherian, a professor of English at the Mar Ivanios College here, said that he, too, was surprised at the cold response from students to the day. "The only reason I can think of is possibly a feeling that this is for the elite, not even for the upper middle classes. Over the years, what I have seen is that there is nothing except perhaps an exchange of cards or maybe flowers," he said. And most unlike in other states, hotels in this state capital said they have no plans at all for special Valentine's Day programmes. "Last year, too, there were no programmes. We feel there is no demand for it here. The only thing we are planning are buffet lunches," said a hotel receptionist. The mood is equally dismal in Le Meridien, the premier hotel in the seaside town of Kochi, which is yet to decide whether any programmes need to be organised at all. "Last year, we organised programmes but the response was poor. So this year we are still undecided," said a hotel official. Even card shops, which report brisk sales during this season of love and romance, report lukewarm sales. A salesperson at Archies Gallery, the signature card manufacturers of the country, said card sales were yet to pick up. "Last year we did better business than this year. Maybe sales might still pick up. But our Kochi office is saying that sales are not bad," said the shop owner. Interestingly, however, this time the shop is stocking cards for parents in the hope that sales might pick up. "All in all, we are not happy with the movement of cards this year," the owner said. Florists are also unhappy. "We don't have any special orders and we don't think we will get them too," moaned a florist. Keval (I hate 2/14 too.. and not because I never received any valentines in grade school!) Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes./filing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 Ammachi, "E. Lamb" <jyotsna2> wrote: <<<< I was reading an article yesterday about some Hindu > group in India that will be on the lookout tomorrow for anyone celebrating Valentine's day because it is > a "christian" holiday and an affront to Hinduism and Indian culture to show any affection in public. What a sad story. I hope no one gets hurt there.>>>> <<<<<I was reading an article yesterday about some Hindu group in India that will be on the lookout tomorrow for anyone celebrating Valentine's day because it is a "christian" holiday and an affront to Hinduism and Indian culture to show any affection in public. What a sad story. I hope no one gets hurt there.>>>> <<<<<Of course we all hope no one is hurt, but I have to say that I am sympathetic to the Hindus here. Even Amma said last year that Indians should not mimic western traditions such as Valentine's Day. I have heard it said that in India it is okay for a man to beat his wife in public, but not to hold her hand in public. (Sorry, no offense intended!) Of course that seems perverse, but I am absolutely sickened by the way western culture has become so degenerate>>>> I think we are so lucky to live in a culture that encourages religious freedom and diversity as long as you are not harming someone else. St. Valentine's Day is to celebrate the eros and love of lovers, and that is wonderful thing. The current Indian government tends toward Hindu fundamentalism and that is why they are persecuting stores that sell Valentine's Cards and lovers who celebrate the holiday. When I lived in India, men and women never touched (the only time I saw a couple holding hands I knew they had come from the West by the way they were dressed!), but men would touch and hug each other openly in public and in ways we would only be accostomed to seeing men and women touch. Our culture would be intolerant by that standard. But I support the borrowing and practicing the religious practices of other cultures, as long as you are not hurting someone. Otherwise, how else would us Westerners practice arati, sing mantras, and meditate on gurus? I still celebrate Christmas as well, and no one is bothered by either. There is no reason for Indian lovers to not adopt something as simple as exchanging cards and gifts on a holiday dedicated to St. Valentine. HAPPY BELATED ST. VALENTINE'S DAY!! ----==- om==-=- Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 The current > Indian > government tends toward Hindu fundamentalism and > that is why they are > persecuting stores that sell Valentine's Cards and > lovers who > celebrate the holiday. I take exception to your comment regarding the present government calling it Hindu Fundamentalists. It is a media created notion specially by BBC labling terms like "right wing", "Hindu Nationalist Party" for BJP (ruling party). In five years nothing happened to minorities in India, still they enjoy the special status at the cost of Majority community. The ruling government of India is pedastrian compared to ruling government of US, where there is ban against same sex marriages,stem cell research and funding for faith based religions (so Hinduism doesn't come into picture)and the list goes on and on. On the other hand Christian and Muslim Institutions in India have special status, they are autonomus bodies, so none of the funding recieved from foriegn countries has to be revealed, while Hindu temples are under Indian Endownment Department. >When I lived in India, men > and women never > touched (the only time I saw a couple holding hands > I knew they had > come from the West by the way they were dressed!), Yup, I pondered on this a lot. In US you have couples smooching, hugging sometimes in eternel embrace in malls and public places etc, but where that does lead to nowhere but DIVORCE(sometimes twice or thrice divorced creating two step dads and three step moms for the kids), breakups etc. So many of my American freinds split up recently,I know people who had been to Carribean Cruise twice a year, but eventually split. While in India couples don't touch or hug each other in Public places and there is no need and the divorce is almost infinitesimal. My parents are happily married for 35 years, they don't hug or touch in public and concept of divorce is almost nonexistant to them. There is not a single divorce case of my knowledge or my aquiantance on my father's or mother's side besides a common Indian has so many realtives. > but men would > touch and hug each other openly in public and in > ways we would only > be accostomed to seeing men and women touch. Our > culture would be > intolerant by that standard. This was the habit I had to shun after comming to US, not knowing only gays does that,I used to put my hand around my freind's shoulder in super markets or any where outside, in fact in India you have 4 or mutiple guys putting their hands on each other shoulders. I think this amazing cultural difference. Regards Avinash. Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam./tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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