Guest guest Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 I have been meditating trying to feel the Sahasrara, Ajna, Vishuddhi, Anahata, Manipura, Svadhistana, Muladhara. So far no luck yet. I can feel a throbbing at the Vishuddhi, nothing more... I have been reading a bit (see links below) trying to better understand our chakras...(only a week so far) I would like to hear of progress by others, I am seeking some inspiration. Also, any personal recommendations /websites to help in the concentration and awareness, should be helpful too. I had a question that I had clarified at the session - that these techniques would NOT be harmful and I was told that it will NOT be harmful. But I hear of the perils of Kundalini shakti rising and I am a bit paranoid of this...any suggesions will be helpful. Is it possible that we need to attain a high level of behavior before these chakras start acknowledging themselves? At this time, I am spiritually quite dense and I just wonder if someone like me could ever achieve some progress, let alone enlightenment Thanks, SHIVA BHAKTA http://www.jyotirlinga.com Some useful links below for chakra practitioners. http://www.srichinmoylibrary.com/mind-confusion-heart-illumination/part1/49 http://www.windsofchange.eu.com/chakra.html http://www.yoga.com/yyhm301.htm http://s89740195.onlinehome.us/personal/realize.html http://swamij.com/kundalini-awakening-6.htm http://www.sol.com.au/kor/18_01.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 Ammachi, "Shiva Bhakta" <shivabhakta@h...> wrote: > I have been meditating trying to feel the Sahasrara, Ajna, Vishuddhi, Anahata, Manipura, Svadhistana, Muladhara. So far no luck yet. I can feel a throbbing at the Vishuddhi, nothing more... > I have been reading a bit (see links below) trying to better understand our chakras...(only a week so far) > Request/reminder: I can only assume you are talking of IAM session ... If so, please do not discuss intricaies of the technique publicly... This is about our commitment to Amma (remember the affidavit you signed?) > I would like to hear of progress by others, I am seeking some inspiration. > Also, any personal recommendations /websites to help in the concentration and awareness, should be helpful too. > Suggestion: Please write to participants on their personal address and share experiences. > I had a question that I had clarified at the session - that these techniques would NOT be harmful and I was told that it will NOT be harmful. But I hear of the perils of Kundalini shakti rising and I am a bit paranoid of this... Suggestion: Have faith... if you have been told it will not be harmful, it WILL not be harmful... I take that sentence as an iron- clad guarantee! Here is how I treat this aspect: I think of Amma being around me and guiding me into the process; hence I do not fear the heard-of information (of the tumult of the Shakti). Jai Ma! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 - Shiva Bhakta Ammachi Monday, February 09, 2004 1:41 PM Chakras Namaste, I have not yet taken the course, so do not know what was/wasn't presented there, but I did find a passage in "Amma, Healing the Heart of the World" where Amma addresses this. Her exact quote is bit lengthy, so bear with me. This is from pg.57 and 58: "There are six chakras, or centers of spiritual power ib the human body. The vital life force (Kundalini Shakti) that flows through all beings is called seprent power, and it rests below the base of the spine in the form of a coiled, sleeping female snake. When this power is awakened, through incessant meditation, it ascends through the spine, passing through the chakras. When each chakra is reached, the physical body can suddenly become very hot, and the person may start to sweat profusely. He or she may also have visions, both divine and earthly. When the serpent power has transcended all six chakras, it rises to the top of the head-to the crown chakra. At that moment, the body suddenly experiences a refreshing coolness as it is transformed into a new vessel of tremndous spiritual power." The next segment of the book tells of a Christian mystic named Padre Pio who became so hot during the transformation that his doctor had to use a horse thermometer because the mercury simply blew out of the top of normal ones during his transformation! I don't know if this is what you were looking for, but hope it helps. At Mother's feet, Snehalata I have been meditating trying to feel the Sahasrara, Ajna, Vishuddhi, Anahata, Manipura, Svadhistana, Muladhara. So far no luck yet. I can feel a throbbing at the Vishuddhi, nothing more... I have been reading a bit (see links below) trying to better understand our chakras...(only a week so far) I would like to hear of progress by others, I am seeking some inspiration. Also, any personal recommendations /websites to help in the concentration and awareness, should be helpful too. I had a question that I had clarified at the session - that these techniques would NOT be harmful and I was told that it will NOT be harmful. But I hear of the perils of Kundalini shakti rising and I am a bit paranoid of this...any suggesions will be helpful. Is it possible that we need to attain a high level of behavior before these chakras start acknowledging themselves? At this time, I am spiritually quite dense and I just wonder if someone like me could ever achieve some progress, let alone enlightenment Thanks, SHIVA BHAKTA http://www.jyotirlinga.com Some useful links below for chakra practitioners. http://www.srichinmoylibrary.com/mind-confusion-heart-illumination/part1/49 http://www.windsofchange.eu.com/chakra.html http://www.yoga.com/yyhm301.htm http://s89740195.onlinehome.us/personal/realize.html http://swamij.com/kundalini-awakening-6.htm http://www.sol.com.au/kor/18_01.htm Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ b.. Ammachi c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 Ammachi, "manoj_menon" <ammasmon@s...> wrote: > Ammachi, "Shiva Bhakta" <shivabhakta@h...> > wrote: > > I have been meditating trying to feel the Sahasrara, Ajna, > Vishuddhi, Anahata, Manipura, Svadhistana, Muladhara. So far no > luck yet. I can feel a throbbing at the Vishuddhi, nothing more... > > I have been reading a bit (see links below) trying to better > understand our chakras...(only a week so far) > > > > Request/reminder: I can only assume you are talking of IAM > session ... If so, please do not discuss intricaies of the technique > publicly... This is about our commitment to Amma (remember the > affidavit you signed?) > Thanks Manoj for this hint on the IAM technique:-). I will definitely attend the IAM session. It appears to be very similar to Kriya(there are around 5 or 6 kriyas around taught by various teachers, all of which are very powerful). In the AOY, Yogananda says that the performance of one Babaji Kriya is equivalent to one year of ordinary meditation and I can certainly attest to the veracity of this statement. > > > I would like to hear of progress by others, I am seeking some > inspiration. > > Also, any personal recommendations /websites to help in the > concentration and awareness, should be helpful too. For chakras kundalini etc some references- - several book by Satyananda Saraswati(Bihar School of Yoga, one of the best references) - There is quite an online collection at www.dlshq.org. - the classic translation by Arthur Avalon of the Shatchakranirupama. These are some outstanding books that come to mind. -yogaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 Om Amriteswaryai Namah Humble Pranams, Would like to know more about Chakras? Click the link below: http://www.kheper.net/topics/chakras/Sahasrara.htm Chandran Ammachi, "Dixie Thacker" <dixielou@s...> wrote: > > - > Shiva Bhakta > Ammachi > Monday, February 09, 2004 1:41 PM > Chakras > > Namaste, > > I have not yet taken the course, so do not know what was/wasn't presented there, but I did find a passage in "Amma, Healing the Heart of the World" where Amma addresses this. Her exact quote is bit lengthy, so bear with me. This is from pg.57 and 58: > > "There are six chakras, or centers of spiritual power ib the human body. The vital life force (Kundalini Shakti) that flows through all beings is called seprent power, and it rests below the base of the spine in the form of a coiled, sleeping female snake. > When this power is awakened, through incessant meditation, it ascends through the spine, passing through the chakras. When each chakra is reached, the physical body can suddenly become very hot, and the person may start to sweat profusely. He or she may also have visions, both divine and earthly. When the serpent power has transcended all six chakras, it rises to the top of the head-to the crown chakra. At that moment, the body suddenly experiences a refreshing coolness as it is transformed into a new vessel of tremndous spiritual power." > > The next segment of the book tells of a Christian mystic named Padre Pio who became so hot during the transformation that his doctor had to use a horse thermometer because the mercury simply blew out of the top of normal ones during his transformation! > > I don't know if this is what you were looking for, but hope it helps. > > At Mother's feet, > Snehalata > > > I have been meditating trying to feel the Sahasrara, Ajna, Vishuddhi, Anahata, Manipura, Svadhistana, Muladhara. So far no luck yet. I can feel a throbbing at the Vishuddhi, nothing more... > I have been reading a bit (see links below) trying to better understand our chakras...(only a week so far) > > I would like to hear of progress by others, I am seeking some inspiration. > Also, any personal recommendations /websites to help in the concentration and awareness, should be helpful too. > > I had a question that I had clarified at the session - that these techniques would NOT be harmful and I was told that it will NOT be harmful. But I hear of the perils of Kundalini shakti rising and I am a bit paranoid of this...any suggesions will be helpful. Is it possible that we need to attain a high level of behavior before these chakras start acknowledging themselves? At this time, I am spiritually quite dense and I just wonder if someone like me could ever achieve some progress, let alone enlightenment > Thanks, > SHIVA BHAKTA > http://www.jyotirlinga.com > > Some useful links below for chakra practitioners. > http://www.srichinmoylibrary.com/mind-confusion-heart- illumination/part1/49 > http://www.windsofchange.eu.com/chakra.html > http://www.yoga.com/yyhm301.htm > http://s89740195.onlinehome.us/personal/realize.html > http://swamij.com/kundalini-awakening-6.htm > http://www.sol.com.au/kor/18_01.htm > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > - ----------- > Links > > > Ammachi/ > > b.. > Ammachi > > c.. Terms of Service. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Ammachi, "childofdevi" <childofdevi> wrote: > > Thanks Manoj for this hint on the IAM technique:-). I will definitely > attend the IAM session. Thank you, Yogaman, for making me feel worse than I already do. . I actually meant to convey the message to ShivaBhakta alone, but ended up sending to the group. Maybe this was Amma's way of attracting a larger audience to the IAMs by 'tantalizing' with just that much info .... it seems to have definitely worked in your case judging by your response. Maybe she felt 'affronted' that Yogaman should have questions about the IAM, so she sneaked in an answer using this (me) foolish and un- alert medium .. LOL. Maybe this is all true. Jai Ma! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Shiva Bhakta, Because our Amma is a true sadguru, she will protect you from the perils and dangers you fear. There is a purification that takes place with the IAM meditation technique. As the purification takes place, you will progress as this process suits you best. Amma's way, I have heard from the brahmachari who was conducting the backwaters boat tour during Amritavarshan, is natural and gradual...really no sudden jolts. If you do receive a jolt, chances are you can handle it. But Amma's way is natural. We are all entering this training from different levels of experience and perspectives, so chances are we will have different experiences. If possible, I think it is good to email your questions to the brahmachari in Amritapuri who corresponds on matters of the IAM course. I think it is okay and sometimes very welcome to talk to others who have already taken the course. Try to minimize this practise, if possible. I'm not sure it is such a good idea to do this in excess. Sometimes when we speak too openly and publicly about our meditation experiences we can lose shakti in this way...treat your experiences as sacred and don't talk excessively about them or the shakti may dissipate...just some thoughts. Watch and monitor your own progress quietly from within...don't broadcast too much. If there are genuine questions, go to someone in a senior position who can help you. Always honor the shakti and always honor Amma's Shakti in this way. These are just some of my thoughts. You may or may not agree. I have found that one who can hold quietly and privately onto their meditation experiences can more easily hold onto the experience in general. Lisa Ammachi, "Shiva Bhakta" <shivabhakta@h...> > > I had a question that I had clarified at the session - that these techniques would NOT be harmful and I was told that it will NOT be harmful. But I hear of the perils of Kundalini shakti rising and I am a bit paranoid of this...any suggesions will be helpful. Is it possible that we need to attain a high level of behavior before these chakras start acknowledging themselves? At this time, I am spiritually quite dense and I just wonder if someone like me could ever achieve some progress, let alone enlightenment > Thanks, > SHIVA BHAKTA > http://www.jyotirlinga.com > > Some useful links below for chakra practitioners. > http://www.srichinmoylibrary.com/mind-confusion-heart- illumination/part1/49 > http://www.windsofchange.eu.com/chakra.html > http://www.yoga.com/yyhm301.htm > http://s89740195.onlinehome.us/personal/realize.html > http://swamij.com/kundalini-awakening-6.htm > http://www.sol.com.au/kor/18_01.htm > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Namah Shivaya Lisa, These are some of the wisest words that i have come across in a while.. thanks for the sentence 'Honor the Shakti and honor Amma's shakti ". I sometimes tend to take Amma 'for granted'.. i dont know if this makes any sense... thanks for the reminder to approach Amma and anything that comes from Her with utmost reverence. bala lbrachlin <lbrachlin wrote: Shiva Bhakta, Because our Amma is a true sadguru, she will protect you from the perils and dangers you fear. There is a purification that takes place with the IAM meditation technique. As the purification takes place, you will progress as this process suits you best. Amma's way, I have heard from the brahmachari who was conducting the backwaters boat tour during Amritavarshan, is natural and gradual...really no sudden jolts. If you do receive a jolt, chances are you can handle it. But Amma's way is natural. We are all entering this training from different levels of experience and perspectives, so chances are we will have different experiences. If possible, I think it is good to email your questions to the brahmachari in Amritapuri who corresponds on matters of the IAM course. I think it is okay and sometimes very welcome to talk to others who have already taken the course. Try to minimize this practise, if possible. I'm not sure it is such a good idea to do this in excess. Sometimes when we speak too openly and publicly about our meditation experiences we can lose shakti in this way...treat your experiences as sacred and don't talk excessively about them or the shakti may dissipate...just some thoughts. Watch and monitor your own progress quietly from within...don't broadcast too much. If there are genuine questions, go to someone in a senior position who can help you. Always honor the shakti and always honor Amma's Shakti in this way. These are just some of my thoughts. You may or may not agree. I have found that one who can hold quietly and privately onto their meditation experiences can more easily hold onto the experience in general. Lisa Ammachi, "Shiva Bhakta" <shivabhakta@h...> > > I had a question that I had clarified at the session - that these techniques would NOT be harmful and I was told that it will NOT be harmful. But I hear of the perils of Kundalini shakti rising and I am a bit paranoid of this...any suggesions will be helpful. Is it possible that we need to attain a high level of behavior before these chakras start acknowledging themselves? At this time, I am spiritually quite dense and I just wonder if someone like me could ever achieve some progress, let alone enlightenment > Thanks, > SHIVA BHAKTA > http://www.jyotirlinga.com > > Some useful links below for chakra practitioners. > http://www.srichinmoylibrary.com/mind-confusion-heart- illumination/part1/49 > http://www.windsofchange.eu.com/chakra.html > http://www.yoga.com/yyhm301.htm > http://s89740195.onlinehome.us/personal/realize.html > http://swamij.com/kundalini-awakening-6.htm > http://www.sol.com.au/kor/18_01.htm > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ Ammachi Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Namah Shivaya Lisa, Your posting is so on the mark! Our individual spiritual experiences are unique and precious. To share them cautiously, and appropriately is our duty and challenge. Thank you for helping us fine tune our satsang. Jai Ma! Omana >Sometimes when we speak too openly and publicly about our meditation experiences we can lose shakti in this > way...treat your experiences as sacred and don't talk excessively > about them or the shakti may dissipate...just some thoughts. Watch > and monitor your own progress quietly from within...don't broadcast > too much. If there are genuine questions, go to someone in a senior > position who can help you. Always honor the shakti and always honor > Amma's Shakti in this way. These are just some of my thoughts. You > may or may not agree. I have found that one who can hold quietly and > privately onto their meditation experiences can more easily hold onto > the experience in general. > > Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 I think you did service by trying to remind all of us that confidentiality is "confidentiality" Jai Ma Ammachi, "manoj_menon" <ammasmon@s...> wrote: > Ammachi, "childofdevi" <childofdevi> > wrote: > > > > Thanks Manoj for this hint on the IAM technique:-). I will > definitely > > attend the IAM session. > > Thank you, Yogaman, for making me feel worse than I already do. . > > I actually meant to convey the message to ShivaBhakta alone, but > ended up sending to the group. > > Maybe this was Amma's way of attracting a larger audience to the > IAMs by 'tantalizing' with just that much info .... it seems to have > definitely worked in your case judging by your response. > > Maybe she felt 'affronted' that Yogaman should have questions about > the IAM, so she sneaked in an answer using this (me) foolish and un- > alert medium .. LOL. > > Maybe this is all true. > > Jai Ma! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Ammachi, "manoj_menon" <ammasmon@s...> wrote: > Ammachi, "childofdevi" <childofdevi> > wrote: > > > > Thanks Manoj for this hint on the IAM technique:-). I will > definitely > > attend the IAM session. > > Thank you, Yogaman, for making me feel worse than I already do. . Manoj, sorry about that:-(. But your timely intervention gave the message to a lot of other people who may have wanted to post details; and also you really did not tell anything, other than this is a genuine technique(from my standpoint). So if it makes you feel any better, I am definitely attending IAM because of you:-). > > I actually meant to convey the message to ShivaBhakta alone, but > ended up sending to the group. > > Maybe this was Amma's way of attracting a larger audience to the > IAMs by 'tantalizing' with just that much info .... it seems to have > definitely worked in your case judging by your response. > > Maybe she felt 'affronted' that Yogaman should have questions about > the IAM, so she sneaked in an answer using this (me) foolish and un- > alert medium .. LOL. On the contrary, you must feel proud that Mother picked you as her messenger of all the 300 people on this list :-) -yogaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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