Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 Jai Sri Krishna and Jai Ma > Hey Fool including you are GOD, ??? Dear Krishnaji, When God is present in All, how then all beings are God. God is one who can stay in all beings. We the Jivatma are very tiny insect & very limited power can't understand what's happening in future, as you said rightly they don't know when the exhale stops, how can you say confidently that we are all Gods? IS what Sri Madvacharya said was wrong then! Bhagavan or God is for Lord Krishna as mentioned in Bhagavad Gita. One can see each sloka starts with Bhagavan Uvacha, that confirms that God titile is only for Lord Krishna. What do you say? In what way all livings beings are GOD?. this is Just to know who is really is God? Hari Om OM Amriteswariye Namaha Ganesh --- Krishna Prasad <rkrishp99 wrote: > Hari OM! OM Amriteswariye Namaha! > > Blessed One, > > The correct amount of heat, from the Sun, the Air, > The Water, the > Rain, the Snow??? everything is controlled by which > intellegent > force or consicousness. Ask the non-beleiver if they > beleive > themsevles, if they beleive, then they definitely > beleive in GOD, > only thing they do not beleive in the form We all > beleive. > Every thing we say natural What is natural tell me > please.... > nothing is natural that is why Lord Jesus Christ > said "THY WILL BE > DONE" not mine. > > That is why whenever we pray, ... Mama Upattha, > Duritha kshaya > dwara... That Duritha Kshayam has to take place, > other wise they are > not wise. For the Duritha Kshayam to take palce, > Amma's Blessing is > requried. > > And they(non Believer) says he want to see what form > is GOD then > only he can believe, that is utter foolishess > because to say that > itself, the energy is given because of GOD's > presence in him. > Even > the GOD only makes him say "There is no GOD" what a > strange > Phenomenon Think of it. Atheist can you show me the > AIR, (You can > feel only) Can You show me the Space Can You? (in > form). > > Can you make for yourself at least one spot of sand > yourself, with > out the help of any thing which is created by > GOD???? > > Hey Fool including you are GOD, You cannot > understand GOD You can > only "Stand under Him". > > You can't even claim what is in your house, You need > to know > everything that exists in your house to say that. > And to claim that > nothing exists in this universe.... think of it (You > should know > everything to say that) is it not utter foolishness. > Atheism is > totally illogical. > > > At the most you can say perhaps "I don't know" what > exists. An > Atheist never accepts his ignorance. As soon as he > accepts his > ignorance atheism falls flat on the ground. You need > not be a > believer, but at least you can say the beautiful "I > don't know". > > You cannot be an Atheist and being intelligent, > atheism takes away > the intelligence in you . All that you can say is > the beautiful "I > don't know". > > Rishis never compelled everyone to be a believer, > Rishis never > impose anything to anybody that you have to believe > in GOD. > > Previously in Prahlada's time there was Powerful > Hiranya Kashipu the > King (father of Prahlad) nowadays most of the people > says there is > no God means what, their ego has gone to their > chromosomal level is > it not?? Amma says, if you inhale, what is the > guarantee that you > exhale. That guarantee is the blessings from HER. > Think.... > > One who says that GOD does not exists (it is > impossible to make any > sense out of it)To know that he should know at least > who is saying > that??? At least he should believe in himself, try > to know who is > saying "I don't believe in anything." You don't even > know that, at > least know that please... if you can know that, you > are realized and > it is the Greatest Meditation. > > Sri Shankaracharya Said, > > Bhaja Govindam, Bhaja Govindam, > Govindam Bhaja Moodamate! > > This Moodamate is for all of Atheist. > > For all of us ...Sadhakas, a slight change in the > path will make our > directions hay way... LIke a car going on 80miles > speed a slight > deflection can make us away from our discipline and > our Sadhana. > > May Amma Bless us all always, for our well being, > unconditional love > (even at least we can try) and continous Sadhana > without any > Weekends (usually people get Weakned during > Weekends!) > > OM Amriteswariye Namaha! > OM Nama Shivaya! > > With Love & OM! > > Krishna Prasad > Ammachi, Dianadevi@a... > wrote: > > Gaby devi, some people are just not ready or > cannot yet feel to > accept God or > > spirituality. My close friend is a distinguished > professor at > University of > > Miami and she argues me down about God all the > time (we love our > debate). "Are > > you wasting your time and money on that swami guru > crap again this > summer?" > > that's her, but you know, she is a good, extremely > smart, > conscientious person > > but I find her very emotionally & creatively > shallow (she finds me > > intellectually undercooked next to her). Where she > stands in the > big scheme, she only > > knows facts and can't accept God because she > really can't yet in > her life develop > > or concieve of a "god concept". Our friendship > helps both of us > evolve > > though, she likes to argue with me about God and > that's how i > spoon feed her > > spirituality while she works my intellect. > > > > Then on the other hand, a co-worker came over to > my apartment and > saw my > > altar and suddenly got weird.. "you know what > you're doing is > wrong" she said "the > > bible says not to worship idols". I tried to > explain hinduism to > her and > > comparative religious concepts and it was totally > futile.. after I > talked at > > length.. she countered back very sincerely > agitated and worried > with something > > like "No, YOU don't understand! There is God, > Jesus is God's son, > and Jesus wrote > > the Bible.. and if you don't do what it says in > the bible then you > will go to > > hell for ETERNITY... blah blah yatta yatta" > nothing could move her > from these > > faulty concepts because - and i say it only > honestly - she was too > simple > > minded to understand any more than that and we > parted ways in > === message truncated === New Photos - easier uploading and sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 Hari OM! OM Amriteswariye Namaha! Blessed One, "What You think so You become" Madhwacharya taught this type of teaching because at that time the total mind or intellect capacity was such that, they cannot comprehend if you say to somebody that "in essence You are GOD himself." Even nowadays also. It is like saying to a Gold Ornament that You are not in essence GOLD! But if it is GOLD Plated, many of us wanted that way. Like GOD is somebody which is peeping up through the Clouds with a stick! GOD+EGO=MAN MAN-EGO=GOD All saints & sages like Sri Sankaracharya, Madhwa, and Ramanuja, knows the total mind, but we do not, we think with our half knowledge and hallucinations. So even if we think Jivatma, there is no harm, we are at a lesser level of evolution! How many years we are like stone, cat, mouse, animals, plants rocks etc, so this is also another evolutionary stage, nothing to argue here, even atheist also one of that kind, with several hammerings of life makes them understand there is an order Which is GOD which is in each one of us. Why this intellectual exercises in the name of GOD, Why can't we Meditate and do Sadhana and know for ourselves. OM NAMA SHIVAYA! With Love & OM! Krishna Prasad Ammachi, Ganesha Udupa <udupag> wrote: > Jai Sri Krishna and Jai Ma > > > Hey Fool including you are GOD, ??? > > Dear Krishnaji, When God is present in All, how then > all beings are God. God is one who can stay in all > beings. We the Jivatma are very tiny insect & very > limited power can't understand what's happening in > future, as you said rightly they don't know when the > exhale stops, how can you say confidently that we are > all Gods? IS what Sri Madvacharya said was wrong > then! Bhagavan or God is for Lord Krishna as > mentioned in Bhagavad Gita. One can see each sloka > starts with Bhagavan Uvacha, that confirms that God > titile is only for Lord Krishna. What do you say? In > what way all livings beings are GOD?. > this is Just to know who is really is God? > Hari Om > OM Amriteswariye Namaha > Ganesh > --- Krishna Prasad <rkrishp99> wrote: > > Hari OM! OM Amriteswariye Namaha! > > > > Blessed One, > > > > The correct amount of heat, from the Sun, the Air, > > The Water, the > > Rain, the Snow??? everything is controlled by which > > intellegent > > force or consicousness. Ask the non-beleiver if they > > beleive > > themsevles, if they beleive, then they definitely > > beleive in GOD, > > only thing they do not beleive in the form We all > > beleive. > > Every thing we say natural What is natural tell me > > please.... > > nothing is natural that is why Lord Jesus Christ > > said "THY WILL BE > > DONE" not mine. > > > > That is why whenever we pray, ... Mama Upattha, > > Duritha kshaya > > dwara... That Duritha Kshayam has to take place, > > other wise they are > > not wise. For the Duritha Kshayam to take palce, > > Amma's Blessing is > > requried. > > > > And they(non Believer) says he want to see what form > > is GOD then > > only he can believe, that is utter foolishess > > because to say that > > itself, the energy is given because of GOD's > > presence in him. > > Even > > the GOD only makes him say "There is no GOD" what a > > strange > > Phenomenon Think of it. Atheist can you show me the > > AIR, (You can > > feel only) Can You show me the Space Can You? (in > > form). > > > > Can you make for yourself at least one spot of sand > > yourself, with > > out the help of any thing which is created by > > GOD???? > > > > Hey Fool including you are GOD, You cannot > > understand GOD You can > > only "Stand under Him". > > > > You can't even claim what is in your house, You need > > to know > > everything that exists in your house to say that. > > And to claim that > > nothing exists in this universe.... think of it (You > > should know > > everything to say that) is it not utter foolishness. > > Atheism is > > totally illogical. > > > > > > At the most you can say perhaps "I don't know" what > > exists. An > > Atheist never accepts his ignorance. As soon as he > > accepts his > > ignorance atheism falls flat on the ground. You need > > not be a > > believer, but at least you can say the beautiful "I > > don't know". > > > > You cannot be an Atheist and being intelligent, > > atheism takes away > > the intelligence in you . All that you can say is > > the beautiful "I > > don't know". > > > > Rishis never compelled everyone to be a believer, > > Rishis never > > impose anything to anybody that you have to believe > > in GOD. > > > > Previously in Prahlada's time there was Powerful > > Hiranya Kashipu the > > King (father of Prahlad) nowadays most of the people > > says there is > > no God means what, their ego has gone to their > > chromosomal level is > > it not?? Amma says, if you inhale, what is the > > guarantee that you > > exhale. That guarantee is the blessings from HER. > > Think.... > > > > One who says that GOD does not exists (it is > > impossible to make any > > sense out of it)To know that he should know at least > > who is saying > > that??? At least he should believe in himself, try > > to know who is > > saying "I don't believe in anything." You don't even > > know that, at > > least know that please... if you can know that, you > > are realized and > > it is the Greatest Meditation. > > > > Sri Shankaracharya Said, > > > > Bhaja Govindam, Bhaja Govindam, > > Govindam Bhaja Moodamate! > > > > This Moodamate is for all of Atheist. > > > > For all of us ...Sadhakas, a slight change in the > > path will make our > > directions hay way... LIke a car going on 80miles > > speed a slight > > deflection can make us away from our discipline and > > our Sadhana. > > > > May Amma Bless us all always, for our well being, > > unconditional love > > (even at least we can try) and continous Sadhana > > without any > > Weekends (usually people get Weakned during > > Weekends!) > > > > OM Amriteswariye Namaha! > > OM Nama Shivaya! > > > > With Love & OM! > > > > Krishna Prasad > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ammachi, Dianadevi@a... > > wrote: > > > Gaby devi, some people are just not ready or > > cannot yet feel to > > accept God or > > > spirituality. My close friend is a distinguished > > professor at > > University of > > > Miami and she argues me down about God all the > > time (we love our > > debate). "Are > > > you wasting your time and money on that swami guru > > crap again this > > summer?" > > > that's her, but you know, she is a good, extremely > > smart, > > conscientious person > > > but I find her very emotionally & creatively > > shallow (she finds me > > > intellectually undercooked next to her). Where she > > stands in the > > big scheme, she only > > > knows facts and can't accept God because she > > really can't yet in > > her life develop > > > or concieve of a "god concept". Our friendship > > helps both of us > > evolve > > > though, she likes to argue with me about God and > > that's how i > > spoon feed her > > > spirituality while she works my intellect. > > > > > > Then on the other hand, a co-worker came over to > > my apartment and > > saw my > > > altar and suddenly got weird.. "you know what > > you're doing is > > wrong" she said "the > > > bible says not to worship idols". I tried to > > explain hinduism to > > her and > > > comparative religious concepts and it was totally > > futile.. after I > > talked at > > > length.. she countered back very sincerely > > agitated and worried > > with something > > > like "No, YOU don't understand! There is God, > > Jesus is God's son, > > and Jesus wrote > > > the Bible.. and if you don't do what it says in > > the bible then you > > will go to > > > hell for ETERNITY... blah blah yatta yatta" > > nothing could move her > > from these > > > faulty concepts because - and i say it only > > honestly - she was too > > simple > > > minded to understand any more than that and we > > parted ways in > > > === message truncated === > > > > > New Photos - easier uploading and sharing. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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