Guest guest Posted November 5, 2003 Report Share Posted November 5, 2003 Hi Fellow Devotees.. I have been pondering NDE's (Near Death Experiences) and their relationships to traditional Vedanta...I have my own opinons and experiences...but I wonder..what does Amma teach about life after death?...and transistions of the atman after death? Also...ISKON/ Prahpupad have an eloborate theology about lokas etc.I know Amma emphasizes action in the Now..but I feel that some light shed on this...the most important of human questions is somewhat critical to sadhana... After all the concept of moksha..Union with a non changing Brahman or whatever ...as an abstract goal is not a very alluring destination to base your life on ....I think 99% of people secretly hope for a heaven world..either with Krishna/Jesus/Divine MA, higher rebirth etc....the concept of Non-changing Void is daunting. Any info/ ideas? Ommm Namah Shivaya! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 Vedanta too has a theory about inner worlds- this is detailed in one of Adi Sankara's works. In fact Adi Sankara is supposed to have descended to earth from the 2nd highest world. > After all the concept of moksha..Union with a non changing Brahman or > whatever ...as an abstract goal is not a very alluring destination to > base your life on ....I think 99% of people secretly hope for a > heaven world..either with Krishna/Jesus/Divine MA, higher rebirth > etc....the concept of Non-changing Void is daunting. Nirvikalpa Samadhi is another beginning of evolution in the inner worlds but true exit from the earth plane. The Non-changing void comes only at the end of evolution on the 7th plane. There is some degree of truth of people going to a heaven with Krishna/Jesus etc, for in the astral world, there are various regions; where one goes is only a question of what the dominant thoughts are. Even a great guru like Sri Yukteshwar went to the fourth world(as per the AB of a yogi).. -yogaman > > Any info/ ideas? > > Ommm Namah Shivaya! > Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 Hare Krishna Hare Rama We know in Bhagavad Gita Lord says that dehino 'smin yatha dehe kaumaram yauvanam jara tatha dehantara-praptir dhiras tatra na muhyati "As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A self-realized soul is not bewildered by such a change." In this the body is destructible but soul is eternal abrahma-bhuvanal lokah punar avartino 'rjuna mam upetya tu kaunteya punar janma na vidyate "From the highest planet in the material world down to the lowest, all are places of misery wherein repeated birth and death take place. But one who attains to My abode, O son of Kunti, never takes birth again." In this Lord says there are many lokas apart from Boolokha(where we all are now residing). Highest planet in the material universe is Bhrama Lokha. Except lord Krishna's place(GoLokha), if we go to other Lokahs, we have to take birth again. yanti deva-vrata devan pitrn yanti pitr-vratah bhutani yanti bhutejya yanti mad-yajino 'pi mam "Those who worship the demigods will take birth among the demigods; those who worship ghosts and spirits will take birth among such beings; those who worship ancestors go to the ancestors; and those who worship Me will live with Me". This is one of the beautiful sloka, wherein Lord stresses to worship him alone to get the highest liberation from birth and death. Jai Ma & Jai Srikrishna Ganesh --- ckeniley2003 <ckeniley2003 wrote: > Hi Fellow Devotees.. > > I have been pondering NDE's (Near Death Experiences) > and their > relationships to traditional Vedanta...I have my own > opinons and > experiences...but I wonder..what does Amma teach > about life after > death?...and transistions of the atman after death? > > Also...ISKON/ Prahpupad have an eloborate theology > about lokas etc.I > know Amma emphasizes action in the Now..but I feel > that some light > shed on this...the most important of human questions > is somewhat > critical to sadhana... > > After all the concept of moksha..Union with a non > changing Brahman or > whatever ...as an abstract goal is not a very > alluring destination to > base your life on ....I think 99% of people secretly > hope for a > heaven world..either with Krishna/Jesus/Divine MA, > higher rebirth > etc....the concept of Non-changing Void is daunting. > > Any info/ ideas? > > Ommm Namah Shivaya! > Chris > > > Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard http://antispam./whatsnewfree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 Hari OM! Blessed One, There is no Union with Brahman, We are already that, just remove our ignorance "Like a dust is removed from the mirror" Brahman is not a sperate entity. Union with Brahman mean, like the Wave says that I want to be one with the Ocean! If the Wave thinks that I am sperate from the Ocean, then all this Maya, the plural World occurs. The concept of Heaven and Hell is here and now, Heaven is a state of mind! Everything for that matter is the state of Mind! The purity to the mind is given by SadGuru's like our Ammachi. Om Nama Shivayaa! Seeking Amma's Blessings With Love & OM! Krishna Prasad Ammachi, "ckeniley2003" <ckeniley2003> wrote: > Hi Fellow Devotees.. > > I have been pondering NDE's (Near Death Experiences) and their > relationships to traditional Vedanta...I have my own opinons and > experiences...but I wonder..what does Amma teach about life after > death?...and transistions of the atman after death? > > Also...ISKON/ Prahpupad have an eloborate theology about lokas etc.I > know Amma emphasizes action in the Now..but I feel that some light > shed on this...the most important of human questions is somewhat > critical to sadhana... > > After all the concept of moksha..Union with a non changing Brahman or > whatever ...as an abstract goal is not a very alluring destination to > base your life on ....I think 99% of people secretly hope for a > heaven world..either with Krishna/Jesus/Divine MA, higher rebirth > etc....the concept of Non-changing Void is daunting. > > Any info/ ideas? > > Ommm Namah Shivaya! > Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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