Guest guest Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 Om Namah Shivaya, all - Just remembering last June, I believe, when someone asked this question of Amma - what about these other gurus that allegedly had sexual misconduct, etc.? (I'm paraphrasing) Her response what that a guru is supposed to embody the highest principles of behavior, and set the example for others. A true guru would never do anything that violates another. She also went on to say that if a guru ever did that to someone, they should tell them to stop! (this is all paraphrased) She also said that she would not comment on the behaviors of particular gurus or talk about them. To that, the room gave applause. I do not think it's our place to be judging or talking about that on this list. Certainly, the people who have been abused by a guru (and I have, myself... not in the Hindu tradition, though) need to find ways to get support and ways to express what they've been through, and perhaps even confront the person who did it to them. But I don't think spreading gossip is the best way to respond. Blessings, Achintya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 Namaste all i must agree here with connie, Gossip is a destructive way,not only to the one that the gossips about but also towards all who must carry that energie within,like a virus be in peace all in mothers grace >"Connie Habash" <Connie >Ammachi ><Ammachi> >Re: other gurus and sex, etc. >Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:29:47 -0800 > >Om Namah Shivaya, all - >Just remembering last June, I believe, when someone asked this >question of Amma - what about these other gurus that allegedly >had sexual misconduct, etc.? (I'm paraphrasing) > >Her response what that a guru is supposed to embody the >highest principles of behavior, and set the example for others. >A true guru would never do anything that violates another. >She also went on to say that if a guru ever did that to someone, >they should tell them to stop! (this is all paraphrased) > >She also said that she would not comment on the behaviors of >particular gurus or talk about them. To that, the room gave >applause. I do not think it's our place to be judging or talking >about that on this list. Certainly, the people who have been >abused by a guru (and I have, myself... not in the Hindu >tradition, though) need to find ways to get support and ways to >express what they've been through, and perhaps even confront >the person who did it to them. But I don't think spreading >gossip is the best way to respond. >Blessings, >Achintya > _______________ Lättare att hitta drömresan med MSN Resor http://www.msn.se/resor/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 Namah Shivaya > I don't want to dwell on the subject too much because I fear our moderator > will become unhappy with me/us for talking about other gurus on an Amma list, > but I wanted to stress that I think it's unfair to make people with legitimate > questions feel guilty of gossip. > [Amma] also said that she would not comment on the behaviors of > particular gurus or talk about them. To that, the room gave > applause. I do not think it's our place to be judging or talking > about that on this list. Certainly, the people who have been > abused by a guru (and I have, myself... not in the Hindu > tradition, though) need to find ways to get support and ways to > express what they've been through, and perhaps even confront > the person who did it to them. But I don't think spreading > gossip is the best way to respond. I move we move off this thread before it takes us any further off our list purpose (deepening our relationship with Amma). Our moderator shouldn't have to play heavy when we are sensing we're going in the wrong direction. Up to now because everyone participating is a veteran on the list, it doesn't feel like any kind of a sabotage effort, but still it feels to this daughter like we're on the edge. Anyone who wants to pursue the thread can go to the other sites and write each other off list. with pranams to our moderator and our beloved Amma. p. Aum Amriteshvaryai Namah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 I agree with Premarupa devi although I love a red hot topic, when it comes to this one, there is just no way to stay constructive or maintain any objectivity, some of us (me I'm sure), don't know where that line is when it comes to sensitive issues of unresolvable controversy.. all inevitably leads to passioned agitation on the list. So for the sake of respect and peace we should step back and re- focus.. I work side by side with a republican and we have learned what and what not to say, and how and how not to say it, in order to co-exist in peace for the sake of the whole office.... I don't think it's wrong to discuss other gurus, or organizations like the other thread about grace where Shankara's, SRF's & ISKCon's Loka's are brought up, I appreciate those posts very much - I find them helpfull. Speaking of other gurus, the Miami Sathya Sai Baba Satsang is having a 24 hour Bhajan fest & meditation for world peace Saturday, 11/8/03 - what are WE doing? hip-to-my-inner-hypocrite, Amarthya Jai Ma Ammachi, Kenna <kenna@m...> wrote: > > Namah Shivaya > > > I don't want to dwell on the subject too much because I fear our moderator > > will become unhappy with me/us for talking about other gurus on an Amma list, > > but I wanted to stress that I think it's unfair to make people with legitimate > > questions feel guilty of gossip. > > > > [Amma] also said that she would not comment on the behaviors of > > particular gurus or talk about them. To that, the room gave > > applause. I do not think it's our place to be judging or talking > > about that on this list. Certainly, the people who have been > > abused by a guru (and I have, myself... not in the Hindu > > tradition, though) need to find ways to get support and ways to > > express what they've been through, and perhaps even confront > > the person who did it to them. But I don't think spreading > > gossip is the best way to respond. > > I move we move off this thread before it takes us any further off our list > purpose (deepening our relationship with Amma). Our moderator shouldn't have > to play heavy when we are sensing we're going in the wrong direction. Up to > now because everyone participating is a veteran on the list, it doesn't feel > like any kind of a sabotage effort, but still it feels to this daughter like > we're on the edge. Anyone who wants to pursue the thread can go to the other > sites and write each other off list. > > with pranams to our moderator and our beloved Amma. > p. > Aum Amriteshvaryai Namah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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